1. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    A picture of some Viking sculpture on a bridge, Rouen, France.

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    09-13-2013 09:59 AM
  2. martinmc78's Avatar
    Well I'm bored. Here's another picture. Inside Notre Dame Cathedral, Rouen, France.

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    That's a lot of chairs - didn't think religion was still that popular.
    09-13-2013 10:10 AM
  3. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    That's a lot of chairs - didn't think religion was still that popular.
    It isn't. LOL.! I think they just have there.
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    09-13-2013 10:14 AM
  4. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    It would look weird if it was empty.
    09-13-2013 10:19 AM
  5. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    It would look weird if it was empty.
    That normal.
    09-13-2013 10:23 AM
  6. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    I want food!!!
    09-13-2013 10:36 AM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I have to disagree with you here. What's the point of making low end hardware if you're purpose isn't to appeal to the masses? Viable alternative, yes but preferred would be a better statement.


    They need to make their OS what people and businesses want. Even though there are companies taking up WP because of some of the issues I know of they'll never be popular with corporations unless they fix certain things. There's simply not enough control over the phone to make large businesses happy. They need to get their act together on this to become a viable alternative to BB.
    Remember, it is the low end models that move sales. Apple gets away their stick because they're not trying to sell iPhones in lower end markets, as in new iPhone models....they do that by default with supporting older hardware. In the league end market, people want stuff that works well, looks good and doesn't cost a ton. That's why android sells.
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    09-13-2013 10:37 AM
  8. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Remember, it is the low end models that move sales. Apple gets away their stick because they're not trying to sell iPhones in lower end markets, as in new iPhone models....they do that by default with supporting older hardware. In the league end market, people want stuff that works well, looks good and doesn't cost a ton. That's why android sells.
    I agree with you there. What I was disagreeing with was the statement that you don't need to make phones appealing to the masses. You only make low end hardware if you're trying to convince people to take that leap to a smartphone, that means appealing to more people. So you're trying to say to someone, don't buy that crappy low end Android phone, buy this great WP that performs as well as the higher end ones just not all the flashy bits. WP will have difficulty appealing to those who want a flashy phone the moment simply due to the iPhone and Android dominance so yes go after the lower end. If Nokia didn't decide to make WP but stayed with Meego my thinking would have been for them to cater to the low end market with their phones first then go after the high end once they had a good base. I'm thinking emerging markets like China and India here. That's what I would have done anyway, though whether that's smart business thinking I don't know.
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    09-13-2013 11:00 AM
  9. sahib lopez's Avatar
    good morning all ..... well ive been up since 8 but I was doing some French homework and playing a game on my ipod so looks like you guys are talking about something I have to catch up too I will be sitting here looking on how this goes oh snaps it looks like you guys reached the 700th post make and it looks like N_larue reach it first
    09-13-2013 11:42 AM
  10. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I want food!!!
    nah you cant have food. you haven't had your cake yet ;)
    09-13-2013 11:44 AM
  11. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    The only issue with the 1520 is the price but hopefully now that MS is in charge it may go down faster in price from when it released...
    09-13-2013 11:48 AM
  12. sahib lopez's Avatar
    The only issue with the 1520 is the price but hopefully now that MS is in charge it may go down faster in price from when it released...
    but I thought that the deal hasn't gone though yet? I mean don't they have to do legal stuff and boring stuff till they can actually acquire Nokia
    09-13-2013 11:50 AM
  13. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I had cake.... cupcake :)
    09-13-2013 11:50 AM
  14. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    The only issue with the 1520 is the price but hopefully now that MS is in charge it may go down faster in price from when it released...
    The 1520 is the 6" phablet right? I don't expect it to be cheap. I do hope it has good specs though.
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    09-13-2013 11:51 AM
  15. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I'm going to have more cupcakes tomorrow... o.O

    Along with that hamburger I mentioned I was going to get. :D
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    09-13-2013 11:55 AM
  16. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    There's a food festival in the town center so I'll be sampling a few foods and drinks and probably buying stuff. I'm such a food snob. :P
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    09-13-2013 11:58 AM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I agree with you there. What I was disagreeing with was the statement that you don't need to make phones appealing to the masses. You only make low end hardware if you're trying to convince people to take that leap to a smartphone, that means appealing to more people. So you're trying to say to someone, don't buy that crappy low end Android phone, buy this great WP that performs as well as the higher end ones just not all the flashy bits. WP will have difficulty appealing to those who want a flashy phone the moment simply due to the iPhone and Android dominance so yes go after the lower end. If Nokia didn't decide to make WP but stayed with Meego my thinking would have been for them to cater to the low end market with their phones first then go after the high end once they had a good base. I'm thinking emerging markets like China and India here. That's what I would have done anyway, though whether that's smart business thinking I don't know.
    I get where you're coming from. The thing is that n the hgh end market, you've got to have distinguishing features.

    Android is the same OS on all hardware chassis. WP is the same OS on all hardware chassis. iOS isn't because you get the OS that's optimized for your hardware. This means that hardware based features gets left out and you either shut up or upgrade.

    So because of that we know WP on a Ativ S runs the same as it would on a 521, for the most part. That's why hardware distinctions and apps /OEM add-one matter at the high end. Nokia is pushing its camera tech in the high end for WP. I think HTC needs to push audio tech (a damn equalizer would help!) in the WP high end and tweak its camera. Samsung can tweak its camera but also push screen size and apps focused on taking advantage of the expandable memory.

    Again, low end models drive bottom lines. That's why the best WP8 out is the 520/521. If HTC had been smarter the 8S would be the 2nd best device, but they put too small internal memory in there.
    09-13-2013 12:00 PM
  18. martinmc78's Avatar
    I had cake.... cupcake :)

    I had some healthy salt & sweet flavour popcorn.
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    09-13-2013 12:01 PM
  19. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    but I thought that the deal hasn't gone though yet? I mean don't they have to do legal stuff and boring stuff till they can actually acquire Nokia
    I mean after the transaction.
    09-13-2013 12:06 PM
  20. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I have to share this hysterical picture. I'm sorry if it offends anyone but it's just too funny not to share. This is an actual topiary outside a Premier Inn.

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    09-13-2013 12:07 PM
  21. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    The 1520 is the 6" phablet right? I don't expect it to be cheap. I do hope it has good specs though.
    It has 1080p display, snapdragon 800 quad core, 2GB of RAM and all the other sweet stuff!
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    09-13-2013 12:07 PM
  22. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    Does anyone know if the 1520 going to be made out of aluminum or plastic?
    09-13-2013 12:11 PM
  23. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I have to share this hysterical picture. I'm sorry if it offends anyone but it's just too funny not to share. This is an actual topiary outside a Premier Inn.

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    HA I was looking at it for a while until I had a light bulb and I started to laugh! ha
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    09-13-2013 12:15 PM
  24. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    HA I was looking at it for a while until I had a light bulb and I started to laugh! ha
    Don't look for too long...
    09-13-2013 12:17 PM
  25. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Does anyone know if the 1520 going to be made out of aluminum or plastic?
    I say plastic because if I go by the leaked pictures it looks like it would be made out of plastic
    09-13-2013 12:17 PM
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