1. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    So...i answered the smartphone addiction thread. I'm still trying to figure out what is "worse" that OP talking about having owned 30 smartphones in 4 years, or me having owned 50 phones overall in 10 years?
    I think 30 in 4 is a bit of an overkill... 50 over 10 is not that bad. That's 5 a year The other is around 7 a year. .
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    07-18-2014 07:10 AM
  2. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    My bad :( . It's fixed now :). Sorry Vaibhav
    Arre no problem bhai :)
    07-18-2014 07:11 AM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I think 30 in 4 is a bit of an overkill... 50 over 10 is not that bad. That's 5 a year The other is around 7 a year. .
    We weren't counting repeats. I still thought his was higher than mine, but it is always funny to see people **** their pants when you drop a phrase like "50 cell phones owned in 10 years)...😉
    07-18-2014 07:12 AM
  4. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    We weren't counting repeats. I still thought his was higher than mine, but it is always funny to see people **** their pants when you drop a phrase like "50 cell phones owned in 10 years)...��
    That's because people see the 50 before the 10. :P Still I'm not saying that isn't a lot. :P I think I only had 10 mobile phones all up, 4 of them smartphones.
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    07-18-2014 07:15 AM
  5. Sport Driver's Avatar
    So I plan to swing by the Sony store after work today to see if they got the Z2 yet. I read somewhere they had the Z1 Compact for sale their now. Knowing what I know now, if i were buying 2 phones right now, I'd get a Z1 Compact and a 1020. The Compact would be my daily driver and the 1020 as my weekend phone. Both have excellent cameras and they use microSIMs, which I like still. Best of all, they hit that 4.5-4.7" sweet spot of mine. Sadly, Sony doesn't have a 7"/8" Android tablet yet, and that's why they killed off the Z ultra line.

    Point is there are many very good choices out there. It is just for folks to be smart with what they choose.

    My uncle has Z1 Compact. I haven't heard a bad word about it from him. Although, he is not really a power user, mails, calls, SMS and internet. He likes it because it's quite small. Oh and battery is said to be good, he gets 4 days on single charge. It's a real power house, especially for that size.
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    07-18-2014 07:16 AM
  6. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    First lets clear something up here. I'm not speaking of the 'incident' with Chregu, I'm speaking in general. I could go back an dig up all the crap you said about me when all I did was jokingly say to speak English. You went off on me for no reason. That was my point. On top of that you seem to think you can just spew whatever you want then at the end say 'I hope I didn't offend you' like that clears you of anything you say.

    I understand English is your second language and maybe you don't fully get the intricacies of sarcasm and whit. That doesn't give you the right to say crap about people and then apologise afterwards because you were too fired up at the time. That's what I meant before about the chip on your shoulder and the balloon ego, meaning fragile. Typical of people your age and whether that's the way you are or not, that's the way you come across.

    I'm not going to speak for Chregu, it's up to him to say what he wants about things. I haven't seen what else has been written between you two.

    I'm just saying your communication style is not that great and needs a bit of polish and with that comes the consequences of people taking it the wrong way.
    Hmm ok I'll work on my communication skills. Thank you :)
    I didn't know that when I apologise after speaking something wrong people take it the wrong way too.
    07-18-2014 07:16 AM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I just say, I have a flair for the unusual but very practical gadget. That's why you'll never see me own a "popular model" like a Galaxy S/iPhone type models. Nor a Nike Fuel band or a Fitband Flex. Being a rebel is better in that regard.
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    07-18-2014 07:17 AM
  8. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    I just say, I have a flair for the unusual but very practical gadget. That's why you'll never see me own a "popular model" like a Galaxy S/iPhone type models. Nor a Nike Fuel band or a Fitband Flex. Being a rebel is better in that regard.
    ^This. This is exactly why I purchased a Lumia. I wanted the phone to be different from the rest of the usual competition. Be different, be unique :)
    07-18-2014 07:20 AM
  9. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Hmm ok I'll work on my communication skills. Thank you :)
    I didn't know that when I apologise after speaking something wrong people take it the wrong way too.
    Nothing wrong with apologising it's about communicating the right way the first time around.

    Let me give you an example (this is not anything you've said but just to give a taste of how it's perceived).

    Example - I think your opinion stinks and you don't know anything, You should know what you speak of before you open your mouth. Hope I didn't offend you.

    Example apology - Sorry for calling you a simpleton. I didn't really mean that.

    That's how people see your writing. Hope that makes things clearer.
    07-18-2014 07:25 AM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    My uncle has Z1 Compact. I haven't heard a bad word about it from him. Although, he is not really a power user, mails, calls, SMS and internet. He likes it because it's quite small. Oh and battery is said to be good, he gets 4 days on single charge. It's a real power house, especially for that size.
    I honestly was going to buy it over the Z Ultra but you know Sony when they just launch a phone...overpriced to the hilt. Knowing me, I'd have owned a purple model and the yellow 1020. I liked the compact because it is a real powerhouse from what I'd read.
    Oddly enough now, the site I quote my prices from have the Compact and 1020 for the same price. Honestly, the compact smokes even the Nexus 5 32GB at that same price, especially since Sony has been updating both it and the Z Ultra very quickly. So you get a better battery life, better camera, more storage, premium design for trading off a slightly larger screen, higher resolution and Qi...and updates come on about the same pace for both models.
    07-18-2014 07:26 AM
  11. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    ^This. This is exactly why I purchased a Lumia. I wanted the phone to be different from the rest of the usual competition. Be different, be unique :)
    I personally want a device that gives me what I need. I don't care about standing out from the crowd or being different. I'm well past that. I just want the damn thing to work.
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    07-18-2014 07:27 AM
  12. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I honestly was going to buy it over the Z Ultra but you know Sony when they just launch a phone...overpriced to the hilt. Knowing me, I'd have owned a purple model and the yellow 1020. I liked the compact because it is a real powerhouse from what I'd read.

    Oddly enough now, the site I quote my prices from have the Compact and 1020 for the same price. Honestly, the compact smokes even the Nexus 5 32GB at that same price, especially since Sony has been updating both it and the Z Ultra very quickly. So you get a better battery life, better camera, more storage, premium design for trading off a slightly larger screen, higher resolution and Qi...and updates come on about the same pace for both models.
    I saw a tonne of Sony's when I was at the mall looking at phones. They look really nice. I don't fully recall all the models but they look well made and have some nice colours.
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    07-18-2014 07:29 AM
  13. Sport Driver's Avatar
    I honestly was going to buy it over the Z Ultra but you know Sony when they just launch a phone...overpriced to the hilt. Knowing me, I'd have owned a purple model and the yellow 1020. I liked the compact because it is a real powerhouse from what I'd read.

    Oddly enough now, the site I quote my prices from have the Compact and 1020 for the same price. Honestly, the compact smokes even the Nexus 5 32GB at that same price, especially since Sony has been updating both it and the Z Ultra very quickly. So you get a better battery life, better camera, more storage, premium design for trading off a slightly larger screen, higher resolution and Qi...and updates come on about the same pace for both models.

    They are bit overpriced bit generally they are really good devices. My cousin has Z2 tablet and I really like it but it's just too expensive.
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    07-18-2014 07:47 AM
  14. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Nothing wrong with apologising it's about communicating the right way the first time around.

    Let me give you an example (this is not anything you've said but just to give a taste of how it's perceived).

    Example - I think your opinion stinks and you don't know anything, You should know what you speak of before you open your mouth. Hope I didn't offend you.

    Example apology - Sorry for calling you a simpleton. I didn't really mean that.

    That's how people see your writing. Hope that makes things clearer.
    Thank you, it's clear now :) I didn't know people would perceive things that way. Guess I'll slowly learn all these things as I get older :)
    07-18-2014 08:06 AM
  15. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    So we've hit 31C. No wonder why it feels so hot!

    We have more thunderstorms coming for tomorrow apparently. I was looking forward to the weekend. Well, I'll look forward to it anyway. :P
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    07-18-2014 08:06 AM
  16. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Thank you, it's clear now :) I didn't know people would perceive things that way. Guess when I grow older I'll learn all these things as I get older :)
    I think it's just the difference is language style. To give an example. In Finnish language, to an outsider, the way they talk could seem impolite. It's not, because their language is very complex. Tone and the words they use carry lots of meaning behind them. Finnish doesn't really translate well into English because it's so different. To give an example, there is no he/she or him/her in Finnish so lots of Finnish people will call women or girls him or he. There's many more but you get what I mean.

    I'm a native English speaker and I read a lot and watch and see everything in English. So I'm used to a certain way of speaking. I've also lived in three different English speaking countries so I'm very familiar with the differences. When someone speaks English as a second language it's possible their cultural differences can come through and put people off because the way you naturally communicate is different than the way I would expect as an English speaker. The words and the tone and the meaning could come across differently which can upset people. You might not realise you're doing it. So it's not about me picking on you or even Chregu picking on you, we are trying to point out that maybe you're not communicating as you might think you are.

    Hope that covers this topic. :)
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    07-18-2014 08:21 AM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    They are bit overpriced bit generally they are really good devices. My cousin has Z2 tablet and I really like it but it's just too expensive.
    Sony has been overpricing things from before Apple was Apple. Lol. That's my thing with them that grinds my gears. I was a long time Sony Ericcson guy - best phone I ever owned from them was a P990. Never bought anything when they adopted Android until I played with the Xperia S and T and really liked those.

    Their stuff is good. The Z1 Compact is very tempting. I may wait until the end of summer to decide what I'm doing. Nothing is happening next week. 😉
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    07-18-2014 08:24 AM
  18. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I saw a tonne of Sony's when I was at the mall looking at phones. They look really nice. I don't fully recall all the models but they look well made and have some nice colours.
    They make very good stuff. If I were going to Android more, I'd get a Z2 tablet and a Z1 Compact. I guess for my needs, Android doesn't translate as well to a 10"+ screen...so that's whats got me hooked on the Z Ultra so much.
    07-18-2014 08:29 AM
  19. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Sony has been overpricing things from before Apple was Apple. Lol. That's my thing with them that grinds my gears. I was a long time Sony Ericcson guy - best phone I ever owned from them was a P990. Never bought anything when they adopted Android until I played with the Xperia S and T and really liked those.

    Their stuff is good. The Z1 Compact is very tempting. I may wait until the end of summer to decide what I'm doing. Nothing is happening next week.
    Sony has always over priced their stuff claiming it to be quality. I have to say their laptops are not worth the extra cash. Not that they make laptops any more. :P

    The phones look well built. I'll have to have a go at their interface to see if it's to my liking. :)
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    07-18-2014 08:30 AM
  20. Sport Driver's Avatar
    Sony has been overpricing things from before Apple was Apple. Lol. That's my thing with them that grinds my gears. I was a long time Sony Ericcson guy - best phone I ever owned from them was a P990. Never bought anything when they adopted Android until I played with the Xperia S and T and really liked those.

    Their stuff is good. The Z1 Compact is very tempting. I may wait until the end of summer to decide what I'm doing. Nothing is happening next week. 😉


    Well to be fair, Nokias are also overpriced and the only one I bought when it was released was Nokia C6-01. The price of L820 dropped for 120 before I bought it.

    And Microsoft is still the same old Microsoft, builds cool thing and than cancels it before it gets released. So in 2 years Apple or Google will come up with this and they will be playing catch up game, AGAIN !!! Why, just WHY MS ?
    http://www.windowscentral.com/micros...enamed-mclaren
    07-18-2014 08:33 AM
  21. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I personally want a device that gives me what I need. I don't care about standing out from the crowd or being different. I'm well past that. I just want the damn thing to work.
    ^This. This is exactly why I purchased a Lumia. I wanted the phone to be different from the rest of the usual competition. Be different, be unique :)
    I do both. I've never bought a device that didn't fit my needs at the time. I just like the ones that do it in a unique way. Right now, the most unique designs in WP belong to the 8S and 925. 😁
    07-18-2014 08:33 AM
  22. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    So the McLaren has been binned. Looks like my next phone is leaning more heavily to android.

    Apparently they don't seem to have any flagships in pipeline for the autumn. This is not good.
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    07-18-2014 08:42 AM
  23. kmji1957's Avatar
    I think it's just the difference is language style. To give an example. In Finnish language, to an outsider, the way they talk could seem impolite. It's not, because their language is very complex. Tone and the words they use carry lots of meaning behind them. Finnish doesn't really translate well into English because it's so different. To give an example, there is no he/she or him/her in Finnish so lots of Finnish people will call women or girls him or he. There's many more but you get what I mean.

    I'm a native English speaker and I read a lot and watch and see everything in English. So I'm used to a certain way of speaking. I've also lived in three different English speaking countries so I'm very familiar with the differences. When someone speaks English as a second language it's possible their cultural differences can come through and put people off because the way you naturally communicate is different than the way I would expect as an English speaker. The words and the tone and the meaning could come across differently which can upset people. You might not realise you're doing it. So it's not about me picking on you or even Chregu picking on you, we are trying to point out that maybe you're not communicating as you might think you are.

    Hope that covers this topic. :)
    Btw N_LaRUE, how much do you speak or understand Finnish?
    07-18-2014 09:09 AM
  24. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Sony has always over priced their stuff claiming it to be quality. I have to say their laptops are not worth the extra cash. Not that they make laptops any more. :P

    The phones look well built. I'll have to have a go at their interface to see if it's to my liking. :)
    The biggest issue with Sony right now is that ergonomically, their phones aren't mainstream. For example, they look great and are eye catching, bit some fond the angular lines not as comfortable to grip, like the Nexus 4 and iPhone 4/4S. The design is very distinct, but for protracted use, it has an adjustment.

    Personally, I like it. But it's not for everyone. You've got to feel it in hand first to see if it is for you.
    07-18-2014 09:16 AM
  25. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Well to be fair, Nokias are also overpriced and the only one I bought when it was released was Nokia C6-01. The price of L820 dropped for 120 before I bought it.

    And Microsoft is still the same old Microsoft, builds cool thing and than cancels it before it gets released. So in 2 years Apple or Google will come up with this and they will be playing catch up game, AGAIN !!! Why, just WHY MS ?
    http://www.windowscentral.com/micros...enamed-mclaren
    Yes, Nokia's Lumia line is overpriced. But compared to Sony, and Apple, they're lightweights.
    07-18-2014 09:20 AM
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