1. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    The problem has been that the big two - AT&T and Verizon - can go to an OEM and get a good enough deal because their cash can cover even flops. HTC and Verizon have been tight for years, so it is no surprise that the W8 lands there first. I find it interesting that within the last year VZW has gotten 3 exclusives - Lumia Icon, Ativ SE and W8, to AT&T's 2: Lumia 1020 and 1520.

    Posted via Princely Purple Z Ultra
    No, what I meant it looks like there might be three versions of the 830... just to confuse everyone, again... I can see the update mess, again. That's what I meant. Personally if I were in the US I'd buy unlocked. Locking to a carrier is dead end. Then again, I don't be carrier locked anyway. :P I only did with the L920 this one time and it's been painful. Won't ever make that mistake again.
    08-13-2014 10:56 AM
  2. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Making a 1530 is pointless until they release threshold. That would be the true phablet system for them. They say it's coming in spring. I wonder how true that is...
    If, that's a big if, MSFT should start to use 8.1.2 to start adding in some differentiating features that take advantage of anything 5"+. But...that is asking for a lot from MSFT.

    Posted via Princely Purple Z Ultra
    08-13-2014 10:59 AM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    No, what I meant it looks like there might be three versions of the 830... just to confuse everyone, again... I can see the update mess, again. That's what I meant. Personally if I were in the US I'd buy unlocked. Locking to a carrier is dead end. Then again, I don't be carrier locked anyway. :P I only did with the L920 this one time and it's been painful. Won't ever make that mistake again.
    I don't think t-mo would take a 830 variant. They saw what happened to the 810 and appear perfectly content to sell 635s and 530s. I meant, they could grab the 830 and not sell anything high end like the 925. AT&T will almost certainly take a stab it, as will VZW because the 822 sold well enough.

    So now you see why I'm 100% buy then unlocked, keep them in good condition so when time cones to upgrade you're not buying completely from scratch.

    Posted via Princely Purple Z Ultra
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    08-13-2014 11:03 AM
  4. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    If, that's a big if, MSFT should start to use 8.1.2 to start adding in some differentiating features that take advantage of anything 5"+. But...that is asking for a lot from MSFT.

    Posted via Princely Purple Z Ultra
    Anything above getting SD card usage right is a big ask of MS. :P

    People talk like threshold is coming in spring. If it does great but I'm not going to hold my breath. Reliability of MS and Nokia are both dismal with release times.
    08-13-2014 11:13 AM
  5. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Damn I guess the thing with the 810 will happen with the 830 >.> well that ruined it for me
    08-13-2014 11:38 AM
  6. worldspy99's Avatar
    Lumia 1530.
    Have heard of the 1525 but not the 1530 yet....
    08-13-2014 11:43 AM
  7. worldspy99's Avatar
    I see that the US carriers are going to make a mess of WP again for everyone. How nice. Aside from the carriers being a pain it's crap like that which reduces WP in the eyes of buyers. Carrier specific phones are such a crap move.
    I think one strategy needs to be to sell unlocked versions directly (ala Google or OnePlus One) which support every freaking GSM band possible. VZW can have its weird CDMA/GSM versions and ATT can do what it wants - like remove wireless charging from the 1520. This way people who want to use a phone sans the carrier subsidies can do what they want....
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    08-13-2014 11:45 AM
  8. worldspy99's Avatar
    The problem has been that the big two - AT&T and Verizon - can go to an OEM and get a good enough deal because their cash can cover even flops. HTC and Verizon have been tight for years, so it is no surprise that the W8 lands there first. I find it interesting that within the last year VZW has gotten 3 exclusives - Lumia Icon, Ativ SE and W8, to AT&T's 2: Lumia 1020 and 1520.

    Posted via Princely Purple Z Ultra
    Don't know how well these are doing on VZW though...
    08-13-2014 11:46 AM
  9. worldspy99's Avatar
    No, what I meant it looks like there might be three versions of the 830... just to confuse everyone, again... I can see the update mess, again. That's what I meant. Personally if I were in the US I'd buy unlocked. Locking to a carrier is dead end. Then again, I don't be carrier locked anyway. :P I only did with the L920 this one time and it's been painful. Won't ever make that mistake again.
    One way around is to stuff all the bands in even though the phone is carrier locked, that way when you finally unlock it the phone can work on any network ala Apple or even most Samsungs and LGs these days...even Sony I believe does that.
    08-13-2014 11:47 AM
  10. worldspy99's Avatar
    I don't think t-mo would take a 830 variant. They saw what happened to the 810 and appear perfectly content to sell 635s and 530s. I meant, they could grab the 830 and not sell anything high end like the 925. AT&T will almost certainly take a stab it, as will VZW because the 822 sold well enough.

    So now you see why I'm 100% buy then unlocked, keep them in good condition so when time cones to upgrade you're not buying completely from scratch.

    Posted via Princely Purple Z Ultra
    I don't think that the 830 will show up on TMO. I hope that the third variant (VZW and ATT ones aside) is unlocked and sold my MSFT directly so that people can use it on TMO.
    08-13-2014 11:48 AM
  11. worldspy99's Avatar
    Damn I guess the thing with the 810 will happen with the 830 >.> well that ruined it for me
    Keep using the 810, I find for some crazy reason it has some of the fewest issues after the update to WP8.1.1...
    08-13-2014 11:49 AM
  12. worldspy99's Avatar
    What's bad are the mindless consumers who go along with this and make such copycat moves OK by buying with their wallets. I see so many Samsung Galaxy S3, S4 and Note 2 and Note 3 daily.

    Posted via Princely Purple Z Ultra
    I live in a sea of iPhones at work....
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    08-13-2014 11:52 AM
  13. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I think one strategy needs to be to sell unlocked versions directly (ala Google or OnePlus One) which support every freaking GSM band possible. VZW can have its weird CDMA/GSM versions and ATT can do what it wants - like remove wireless charging from the 1520. This way people who want to use a phone sans the carrier subsidies can do what they want....
    rip 830 on tmobile !
    08-13-2014 11:55 AM
  14. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Keep using the 810, I find for some crazy reason it has some of the fewest issues after the update to WP8.1.1...
    yup I agree :) the 810 is the best WP and under rated phone around
    08-13-2014 11:57 AM
  15. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I live in a sea of iPhones at work....
    at school it was more iPhones >.<
    08-13-2014 11:57 AM
  16. sahib lopez's Avatar
    blame it on the apples blame it on the bananas blame ah ah ah ah apples
    08-13-2014 12:04 PM
  17. sahib lopez's Avatar
    looking to buy a TV also :)
    08-13-2014 12:10 PM
  18. hope4wp's Avatar
    I need a phablet in glossy black with a red vinyl! :D
    08-13-2014 12:11 PM
  19. Sport Driver's Avatar
    rip 830 on tmobile !

    Why?
    08-13-2014 12:14 PM
  20. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I need a phablet in glossy black with a red vinyl! :D
    o.o that would be very fuzzy
    08-13-2014 12:15 PM
  21. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Why?
    let me tell you about how tmobile works
    1) price mid range high
    2) don't market it well
    3) update it once and EOL it
    4) forget it even existed
    example 610,710,and 810. yup the 830 Is DOA
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    08-13-2014 12:16 PM
  22. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I doubt anyone will fall for the 830 on tmobile. I can tell you anyone who bought an 810( in the forums ) wont buy the 830 from T-Mobile. I know I wont
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    08-13-2014 12:18 PM
  23. sahib lopez's Avatar
    HA I bet the 830 on T-Mobile will be called the 835 !
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    08-13-2014 12:19 PM
  24. Sport Driver's Avatar
    I doubt anyone will fall for the 830 on tmobile. I can tell you anyone who bought an 810( in the forums ) wont buy the 830 from T-Mobile. I know I wont

    So you are not buying 830 or just not 830 from T-Mobile?
    MSFTisMIA likes this.
    08-13-2014 12:29 PM
  25. sahib lopez's Avatar
    So you are not buying 830 or just not 830 from T-Mobile?
    not buying the 830 from tmobile if its a variant
    MSFTisMIA likes this.
    08-13-2014 12:43 PM
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