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  1. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    I think I burnt through at least 8GB of data in the past 27 hours or so.
    2GB thanks to updates
    4GB thanks to Nichijou
    1GB thanks to browsing
    1GB thanks to gaming

    No wonder I got throttled today
    08-15-2014 08:13 AM
  2. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    The environment is a complete and utter mess and unfortunately there is very loud minority group (backed by an ignorant populace and money) saying there's nothing wrong. Unfortunately a lot of these people have capital interest at heart and a firm belief (note the word belief) that 'everything' will work out just fine.

    My wife and I have discussed a few times on how maybe the green movement has screwed up with using the slogan, 'Save the planet'. It's should have been more like this - 'Save the planet to save yourself'. Maybe that might have hit home a bit more.

    The Earth will continue on it's merry way, whether we're on it or not.
    I like that slogan. It is the truth in every sense of the word. I'll be selfish and say I hope I'm not around to see what when all hell breaks loose. During those times I wouldn't be surprised to see those Hollywood movies of the rich separated from the rest of us in some form of enclave come to life.

    It worries me. It really does.

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    08-15-2014 08:28 AM
  3. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I like that slogan. It is the truth in every sense of the word. I'll be selfish and say I hope I'm not around to see what when all hell breaks loose. During those times I wouldn't be surprised to see those Hollywood movies of the rich separated from the rest of us in some form of enclave come to life.

    It worries me. It really does.

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    I suspect it to be like a NRA wet dream to be honest. Total anarchy. What happens when the oil runs out? What happens as our population increases and food and clean water decrease?

    Maybe a good pandemic will come along and wipe a few of us off the planet and that may help change things and people's mind. (I'm not trying be sadistic, just a sign that our population is getting to plague proportions and disease is one of the controlling factors) With our mobile lives this is a strong possibility.

    You can't eat plastic or money. :P
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    08-15-2014 08:34 AM
  4. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    So I went browsing at the phone sight I use and was cracking up. Z1Compact for $390, Z Ultra for $330, Z2 for $550...remember, these include shipping. Man, that is crazy. The 930 is still $550. If I didn't love my Z Ultra I'd sell it and get a Z2.

    I'd rock a purple Z2 and a burnt orange 930...or better yet, I'd get a 1520 (currently $480 shipping included).

    But I am a broke full time employed graduate student, so its OK to use a N5 and a 925 and a Z Ultra. But man, I can dream, can't I?

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    08-15-2014 08:35 AM
  5. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I suspect it to be like a NRA wet dream to be honest. Total anarchy. What happens when the oil runs out? What happens as our population increases and food and clean water decrease?

    Maybe a good pandemic will come along and wipe a few of us off the planet and that may help change things and people's mind. (I'm not trying be sadistic, just a sign that our population is getting to plague proportions and disease is one of the controlling factors) With our mobile lives this is a strong possibility.

    You can't eat plastic or money. :P
    To me the one resource more precious than oil: clean drinking water. Some of the aquifers here in the US are starting to approach the beginnings of critical levels (many in the Midwest and western parts of the US). Sahib and 99 can talk about the rain issues on the left coast with drought.

    If all hell breaks loose it will be a fight for food, water and oil - in that order.

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    08-15-2014 08:38 AM
  6. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Heheh I like long running anime . They have a good storyline ^.^
    08-15-2014 08:45 AM
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    To me the one resource more precious than oil: clean drinking water. Some of the aquifers here in the US are starting to approach the beginnings of critical levels (many in the Midwest and western parts of the US). Sahib and 99 can talk about the rain issues on the left coast with drought.

    If all hell breaks loose it will be a fight for food, water and oil - in that order.

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    I'm not liking this drought :/ I'm hoping it rains a lot this winter !
    08-15-2014 08:48 AM
  8. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Yay I'm back to my iPod 5th Gen :)
    08-15-2014 08:49 AM
  9. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    If all hell breaks loose it will be a fight for food, water and oil - in that order.

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    Considering our rather cuddled lifestyles where the majority of us simply go into a grocery stores or restaurants to get food and have zero concept on how it got there I can see food being a major issue. People panic buy things so shortages will happen quickly. As for water, I have personal experience with droughts while living in Australia so I'm very aware of one, the ignorance that people have about water and two, the lack of infrastructure in place to deal with the situation.

    With oil, I can see people freaking out over it simply because of our lifestyles to start with, second with the commodity being worth so much. That's why it's dangerous. People kill for value as we all know. Those who feel to gain the most from it will be the once killing for it.

    Interesting times ahead.

    Regardless of then, we just need to look at Ferguson, Illinois to show the mess the US is in. Yes the news is making it's way here.
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    08-15-2014 08:51 AM
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    Considering our rather cuddled lifestyles where the majority of us simply go into a grocery stores or restaurants to get food and have zero concept on how it got there I can see food being a major issue. People panic buy things so shortages will happen quickly. As for water, I have personal experience with droughts while living in Australia so I'm very aware of one, the ignorance that people have about water and two, the lack of infrastructure in place to deal with the situation.

    With oil, I can see people freaking out over it simply because of our lifestyles to start with, second with the commodity being worth so much. That's why it's dangerous. People kill for value as we all know. Those who feel to gain the most from it will be the once killing for it.

    Interesting times ahead.

    Regardless of then, we just need to look at Ferguson, Illinois to show the mess the US is in. Yes the news is making it's way here.
    ._. Huh didn't know it reached to the other side of the pond
    08-15-2014 08:54 AM
  11. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Hehehe I will take pictures of my new tv when it gets here :)
    08-15-2014 08:56 AM
  12. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Well I'm off ! Laters all
    08-15-2014 08:56 AM
  13. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    ._. Huh didn't know it reached to the other side of the pond
    People don't know much about Australia other than what is shown on TV. Australia is a very very dry place for a large portion of the country/continent.
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    08-15-2014 09:02 AM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Considering our rather cuddled lifestyles where the majority of us simply go into a grocery stores or restaurants to get food and have zero concept on how it got there I can see food being a major issue. People panic buy things so shortages will happen quickly. As for water, I have personal experience with droughts while living in Australia so I'm very aware of one, the ignorance that people have about water and two, the lack of infrastructure in place to deal with the situation.

    With oil, I can see people freaking out over it simply because of our lifestyles to start with, second with the commodity being worth so much. That's why it's dangerous. People kill for value as we all know. Those who feel to gain the most from it will be the once killing for it.

    Interesting times ahead.

    Regardless of then, we just need to look at Ferguson, Illinois to show the mess the US is in. Yes the news is making it's way here.
    Well, if I want to deal with a water storage, I go back to the house I grew up in. It sits in the middle of a hill so any scientist would know that the water pressure issues are tremendous. Water conversation isn't an issue for me. I have enough of a thumb to know how to grow my own food and how kill chickens and and bait and catch fish (been years since I went fishing though so I'm super rusty). I think I can survive off the land if I have to. Some aren't so lucky. Which is why I don't make fun of the doomsday peppers reality show, simply because while they may be overdoing it, they have a skill if hell breaks loose.

    The Missouri thing shows that even though I'm Jamaican in origin, based in my ethnicity, I'm still a member of an endangered species - the black male. Trayvon Martin, the guy a few weeks ago killed by chokehold by NYPD, I can go on and on.

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    08-15-2014 09:11 AM
  15. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Well, if I want to deal with a water storage, I go back to the house I grew up in. It sits in the middle of a hill so any scientist would know that the water pressure issues are tremendous. Water conversation isn't an issue for me. I have enough of a thumb to know how to grow my own food and how kill chickens and and bait and catch fish (been years since I went fishing though so I'm super rusty). I think I can survive off the land if I have to. Some aren't so lucky. Which is why I don't make fun of the doomsday peppers reality show, simply because while they may be overdoing it, they have a skill if hell breaks loose.
    I'm not so worried about surviving off the land, it's surviving the panicked populace.

    The Missouri thing shows that even though I'm Jamaican in origin, based in my ethnicity, I'm still a member of an endangered species - the black male. Trayvon Martin, the guy a few weeks ago killed by chokehold by NYPD, I can go on and on.

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    I read a statistic that every 28 hours a black man (never liked this term BTW) dies at the hands of the police in the US. That's just wrong.

    People may ask me why I like science, especially evolution and why I think science is important in general.

    Simple, evolution kills off racism. Once you understand it correctly you realise we're all the same and it's just evolution as to why we're different. Therefore killing off our main divisive force on the planet.

    Why do I like science and see it as important? Simple, the more you learn about it the more you realise that other explanations are mere myths and the methods of science is our only hope of understanding. This kills off the other divisive part of our nature (or reduces it's impact), that of superstition. This is by far the most dangerous one.

    I long for a rational world, unfortunately we're far far away from it and just when it seems we're starting to head the right way there comes along something to convince me that we are still nothing more than children still growing up. Evolution has a lot to answer for. :P
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    08-15-2014 09:39 AM
  16. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm not so worried about surviving off the land, it's surviving the panicked populace.



    I read a statistic that every 28 hours a black man dies at the hands of the police in the US. That's just wrong.

    People may ask me why I like science, especially evolution and why I think science is important in general.

    Simple, evolution kills off racism. Once you understand it correctly you realise we're all the same and it's just evolution as to why we're different. Therefore killing off our main divisive force on the planet.

    Why do I like science and see it as important? Simple, the more you learn about it the more you realise that other explanations are mere myths and the methods of science is our only hope of understanding. This kills off the other divisive part of our nature (or reduces it's impact), that of superstition. This is by far the most dangerous one.

    I long for a rational world, unfortunately we're far far away from it and just when it seems we're starting to head the right way there comes along something to convince me that we are still nothing more than children still growing up. Evolution has a lot to answer for. :P
    Peonage and the fall out from the US Civil War has helped (among other things) to set the historical backdrop for the issues between black males and the justice system that has been reinforced even in contemporary times. Social media has only made it easier to bring what is always happening into the mainstream more easily. Google the Black Wall Street for an interesting read about a town in the Midwest in the early 20th Century in the US that was black owned, well run, and was systematically dismantled because it was blacks in charge and doing so in a healthy and prosperous manner. Now, I know that crime knows no race, but some racist people are still in public institutions wielding power. Racism is just as ugly in the UK as it is here in the US when revealed, but it is more covert.

    My take is that based on how society is constructed in capitalism, you need someone to exploit. So under the current system, war, pestilence, famine, won't end until either the religious stuff truly happens or we find other comparable life forms in the universe to exploit.

    We're really in a mess.

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    08-15-2014 09:53 AM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Rue, this song says it best:

    Band Played On - Joe Walsh

    I hope we get to that more rational point, but I don't think we will. It isn't that I don't have a positive outlook on humanity - if I didn't I would be in social work - but I'm a realist to say we've got a loooooong way to go.

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    08-15-2014 09:57 AM
  18. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Rue, this song says it best:

    Band Played On - Joe Walsh

    I hope we get to that more rational point, but I don't think we will. It isn't that I don't have a positive outlook on humanity - if I didn't I would be in social work - but I'm a realist to say we've got a loooooong way to go.

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    I'm sure I know that song but haven't heard it for some time. I'll look it up.

    I thought we were doing well at one point but things seemed to have gone down hill the last decade. Humanity is a stressful thing. Ignorance and fear runs high.
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    08-15-2014 10:17 AM
  19. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    In times of turmoil is when you see the ugliest side of humanity. I guess this past few years haven't been that great in general.

    As for racism, it exists everywhere. Some places are just easier to point at.
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    08-15-2014 10:26 AM
  20. worldspy99's Avatar
    So I went browsing at the phone sight I use and was cracking up. Z1Compact for $390, Z Ultra for $330, Z2 for $550...remember, these include shipping. Man, that is crazy. The 930 is still $550. If I didn't love my Z Ultra I'd sell it and get a Z2.

    I'd rock a purple Z2 and a burnt orange 930...or better yet, I'd get a 1520 (currently $480 shipping included).

    But I am a broke full time employed graduate student, so its OK to use a N5 and a 925 and a Z Ultra. But man, I can dream, can't I?

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    Here is my latest gadget. Pretty nice....
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    08-15-2014 11:01 AM
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    In times of turmoil is when you see the ugliest side of humanity. I guess this past few years haven't been that great in general.

    As for racism, it exists everywhere. Some places are just easier to point at.
    If you happen to be on the other side (which like MSFTisMIA, I am) it is very easy to spot subtle racism - how you end up getting a lousy table at a restaurant or why your food comes out cold and 40 minutes after you place the order, whereas the people seated at the adjacent table showed up 20 minutes after you were seated and are already enjoying the meal! Heck I saw that at a pizza joint last Saturday....there are plenty of other instances where your money is not as cool as someone else's....and I agree with N_LaRUE, we are after all the same inside, evolution has made us who we are on the outside, the sooner we learn that, the better we will all be off as a race...
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    08-15-2014 11:04 AM
  22. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Sahib, you got music to listen to again:

    Band Played On - Joe Walsh

    Give you a hint, the boat references are a metaphor akin to the state of humanity...kinda in the same vein of the conversation Rue and I have been having these last few posts.

    I'm giving you a hint because if you only come back talking about a boat, I'll unfriend you for a week.

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    08-15-2014 11:05 AM
  23. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Here is my latest gadget. Pretty nice....
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    OPO looks good. 16GB or 64GB?

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    08-15-2014 11:06 AM
  24. worldspy99's Avatar
    OPO looks good. 16GB or 64GB?

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    64GB Sandstone Black, you interested?
    08-15-2014 11:07 AM
  25. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    If you happen to be on the other side (which like MSFTisMIA, I am) it is very easy to spot subtle racism - how you end up getting a lousy table at a restaurant or why your food comes out cold and 40 minutes after you place the order, whereas the people seated at the adjacent table showed up 20 minutes after you were seated and are already enjoying the meal! Heck I saw that at a pizza joint last Saturday....there are plenty of other instances where your money is not as cool as someone else's....and I agree with N_LaRUE, we are after all the same inside, evolution has made us who we are on the outside, the sooner we learn that, the better we will all be off as a race...
    There's only one race...the human race. While it is hard to wipe away 400+ years of the chattel slavery mindset on both sides, it'll take everyone rallying together to pull their part to do so.

    Show you a subtle example. There is a Portuguese seafood joint in Newark I found and the GF loves to go whenever she visits me. Its in the Ironbound district, a nice part of Newark that has a ton of Spanish and Portuguese tapas and seafood places. This particular restaurant has a very nice, homey feel. I know they don't get a lot of blacks in there. They may get the ocassional Hispanic, but they usually get Portuguese, Spanish and whites. I never forget the eyes we got when we went the first time one a Sunday afternoon. But we enjoyed the food and let how we handled ourselves there speak for us. Now whenever we walk in, we get less eyes and the wait staff, virtually unchanged, treats us no different than their other customers.

    Were they treating us differently the first few times? Not necessarily, but they were watching us for sure. When we got the guy whose English wasn't so great but we treated him kindly and tipped him because his service was good. We go back because we like the food and the service is nice.

    People on our side of the fence have to work twice as hard to fight too sets of stereotypes: the uncivilized (whatever racially insult word) and the "they're not like the uncivilized etc because we know them". Most of us are normal folks like the other side, but those who benefit from keeping the propaganda machine and racism running always reinforce the stereotypes and division.

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    08-15-2014 11:19 AM
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