1. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Oh well, I have to go now. G'night, y'all!
    Kids...always falling asleep when things get good...

    Just kidding. See you later...

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    08-18-2014 09:44 AM
  2. worldspy99's Avatar
    There a d big difference between visiting a place and living in it.

    I'm not saying that you need to move to a huge city but I think getting out of your comfort zone for a couple of years or more would be good for you.
    Immigration versus tourism :-)
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    08-18-2014 09:45 AM
  3. worldspy99's Avatar
    its no wonder why the Germans always went after France in ww1 and ww2 ( I know horrible joke )
    Sahib at his finest!
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    08-18-2014 09:45 AM
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    You know, I had this weird feeling about visiting the Statue of Liberty and in particular Ellis Island's Immigration Museum. Now, don't get me wrong, it was a very good history lesson, especially since yesterday I really got a chance to see most of the Immigration museum. But as I walked through it all, the sense of "some of this stuff applies to me" wasn't as strong as "at least these folks who emigrated had it easier than the folks who looked like me".

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    Back then immigration was very different than it is now. Heck even in the 60s it was different. After 2001, things have basically hit rock bottom.
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    08-18-2014 09:49 AM
  5. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    My comment was going to be about how we all immigrate for different reasons but for most it appears the idea of a 'better' life. Either for themselves or their children. When it comes to the US I often wondered about that, looking at it from a Canadian perspective. I often wondered what was so good about the US? Like now, I wonder why the large group of people in France ports are so desperate to get to the UK? Not being from that mindset I find it difficult to get my head around. I understand the wanting to leave from war and political unrest and all that. I can fully understand refugees and immigration of that nature.

    Where I get lost is when people are so desperate about the 'gold' at the end of the rainbow mindset and will risk everything to get it, including their lives. Worse is that here in the UK a lot of times their lives are no better. Same goes for Australia but this information doesn't get out to those desperate people and that's where I get confused. Where's the short circuit happening?

    As for my own experience, the closest I got to feeling like a 'real' immigrant was my time in Finland. Yes there were difficult times in Australia as well but Finland was something else. Being in a country where you don't know the language, don't know the culture, don't know the 'ways' things work, even though you have some help is a scary thing. Struggling to get by and wanting to work but not having any ability to. Doing some different things in hopes of getting work but nothing is really working. Getting so low on your income that you're happy just to find 2 euros in you pocket to get some food is welcoming. It's a stressful existence that I really don't want to repeat.
    The short version is for some folks the desperation is so high that coupled with the whole "the grass is greener on the other side" it is more about getting here and figuring things out.

    Desperation is relative, like poverty is. Those who are absolutely desperate know that currency wise, the lowest minimum wage job here in the US is a vast improvement from their current situation. Depending on the group, many have very well connected services whereby they can replicate their home life and still get access to the increase in currency and opportunities.

    Some are just disenchanted with where they are and feel that a change of scenery will help. I never forget the conversation I had with a college friend of mine when she talked about wanting to come to 'Murica and I laid it out for her in 10 minutes. All I heard was silence afterwards. She's still in Jamaica and we never had that discussion again before we lost touch.

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    08-18-2014 10:28 AM
  6. ajst222's Avatar
    Morning guys!
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    08-18-2014 10:45 AM
  7. sahib lopez's Avatar
    That's some deep stuff ._. Yeah um I can't think of anything :p


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    08-18-2014 11:11 AM
  8. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Morning guys!
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    Sup


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    08-18-2014 11:11 AM
  9. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Sahib at his finest!
    X.X well not the best thing but not the worst thing I've done


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    08-18-2014 11:12 AM
  10. sahib lopez's Avatar
    The young person's dilemma. :P Then again, it's a constant life struggle to be honest. :P LOL! Well, for some of us. :P Depends how much risk you want to take.
    The struggle is really man !!!! /E*

    * a made up tag for exaggeration


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    08-18-2014 11:14 AM
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    Sup


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    Not much, you?
    08-18-2014 11:24 AM
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    Morning guys!
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    Yo, ajst222, long time no see....
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    08-18-2014 11:25 AM
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    X.X well not the best thing but not the worst thing I've done


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    Sahib, there is way too much evidence in these 81K or so posts (where you have more than 25% of them) for us to dig stuff up, so beware:-)
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    08-18-2014 11:26 AM
  14. ajst222's Avatar
    Yo, ajst222, long time no see....

    I know! I've just been so busy. What's new everyone?
    08-18-2014 11:29 AM
  15. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I know! I've just been so busy. What's new everyone?
    Except for trying to sort out the worlds ills, not much. :P
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    08-18-2014 11:32 AM
  16. ajst222's Avatar
    Except for trying to sort out the worlds ills, not much. :P

    Hahah I know whatcha mean ;). As for me, I ordered an Xbox One and I'm excited! I preordered the Madden edition so the 26th can't come sooner
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    08-18-2014 11:35 AM
  17. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Hahah I know whatcha mean ;). As for me, I ordered an Xbox One and I'm excited! I preordered the Madden edition so the 26th can't come sooner
    I'll be excited for you on the inside. :P I'm not much into gaming so...

    For me, it's just the usual. Travel, work, visitors. Yapping on here. That's about it. No new tech to buy or think about at this moment in time.
    08-18-2014 11:36 AM
  18. worldspy99's Avatar
    I know! I've just been so busy. What's new everyone?
    Not much, the usual, lot's of wheeling and dealing with Bunky though :-)
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    08-18-2014 11:37 AM
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    Not much, the usual, lot's of wheeling and dealing with Bunky though :-)

    Glad to hear! I haven't done anything with him in a while hahah. I've got him on BBM though of course ;)
    08-18-2014 11:38 AM
  20. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Not much, you?
    Going to try to enjoy my last week before going back to college :p


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    08-18-2014 11:45 AM
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    Going to try to enjoy my last week before going back to college :p

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    No comment... :P
    08-18-2014 11:46 AM
  22. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Sahib, there is way too much evidence in these 81K or so posts (where you have more than 25% of them) for us to dig stuff up, so beware:-)
    lol who would be crazy enough to do that . Even the NSA wouldn't do that ;)


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    08-18-2014 11:46 AM
  23. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    lol who would be crazy enough to do that . Even the NSA wouldn't do that ;)

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    Don't be so sure...
    08-18-2014 11:47 AM
  24. sahib lopez's Avatar
    No comment... :P
    Last week! I'm actually kinda excited. I'll be taking classes with a few friends of mine for once . I'll be taking a photoshop class with a friend and a pe class with my Laos friend.then an anthropology class with another friend . Basically I have classes with one friend ^.^


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    08-18-2014 11:49 AM
  25. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Hahah I know whatcha mean ;). As for me, I ordered an Xbox One and I'm excited! I preordered the Madden edition so the 26th can't come sooner
    Can't wait to get mine . Soon I will have one >:)


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