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  1. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Todays world.
    Sent from my dark knight 1320
    Amusing but far from reality. :P
    11-10-2014 08:29 AM
  2. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Unless you or someone else has proof of how 64bit architecture is utilised on an iPhone we can't really comment if it's a gimmick or not. Regardless of the RAM.

    As for Android or any other OS, it comes down to how the OS works.

    The whole point of a 64bit architecture was to address more than 4gb of memory .....right ? That's what I'm assuming here that in order to get the benefits of a 64bit architecture.
    I think its more of "I'm just prepping my os to 64bit incase I do put more than 4gb of ram in a iphone "
    11-10-2014 08:49 AM
  3. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Desperate people. There's a few people really wanting that new flagship. So many comments about the 'new 1030, 1530, etc', it's a bit sad really.

    But the question is whether MSFT will deliver ?:/
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    11-10-2014 08:52 AM
  4. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I'm also contemplating giving away my L920 with case and possibly the wireless charging plate with it. I don't mind wireless charging but it's neither here nor there.

    Doesn't the 1+1 have qi wireless charging ....or is that another phone o.o?
    11-10-2014 08:54 AM
  5. sahib lopez's Avatar
    O.o I wonder if I have school today. The bus line is empty
    sent from my rare green linux 830
    11-10-2014 08:58 AM
  6. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Doesn't the 1+1 have qi wireless charging ....or is that another phone o.o?
    There's no wireless charging on the 1+1 but that's ok since it's so cheap.
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    11-10-2014 08:58 AM
  7. psoham777's Avatar
    Amusing but far from reality. :P


    Might be for some
    11-10-2014 08:59 AM
  8. sahib lopez's Avatar
    There's no wireless charging on the 1+1 but that's ok since it's so cheap.

    Oh no wonder why its thin :p
    11-10-2014 09:02 AM
  9. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Oh hey its that one girl I talked about earlier this year with the red 920 :p
    sent from my rare green linux 830
    11-10-2014 09:03 AM
  10. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    The whole point of a 64bit architecture was to address more than 4gb of memory .....right ? That's what I'm assuming here that in order to get the benefits of a 64bit architecture.
    I think its more of "I'm just prepping my os to 64bit incase I do put more than 4gb of ram in a iphone "
    So this misconception needs to end here.

    A 32 bit CPU can support more than 4GB of RAM. The limitation is based on the OS, not the CPU.

    The reason you go between 32 or 64 bit computing has little to do with the RAM issue. 64 bit systems are far more efficient because you can run two 32 bit processes at the same time. The allowance of more RAM per process allows for smoother operation of dual processes. A lot depends on the OS and how it's set up however. That's why my comment was about the OS rather than the actual CPU.

    64 bit processing is purely based on OS performance and how it optimizes processes within the OS. If it's not set up correctly you won't see any benefit.

    That's why having a 64 bit processor is not a gimmick if done right.
    11-10-2014 09:05 AM
  11. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Might be for some
    Didn't say it wasn't. :P

    My wife encounters funny things with LinkedIn profiles all the time with people having 10 to 20 year old photos on their profiles. She finds it rather annoying that people feel they need to have a younger photo on their profile and dishonest.
    11-10-2014 09:08 AM
  12. Muessig's Avatar
    I'm going to Cosmo's, a food buffet chain in the UK. Looking forward to trying lots of different things tonight!
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    11-10-2014 09:11 AM
  13. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I'm going to Cosmo's, a food buffet chain in the UK. Looking forward to trying lots of different things tonight!
    Don't know if I know them...

    Link?
    11-10-2014 09:12 AM
  14. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Can't quote since It wont let me.
    Anyways i knew it was never CPU based hence the more ram comment. My problem isn't with CPU. It's with many saying we need it regardless if it's done right or wrong . How do I know apple implementation is spot on or just a gimmick? I could question it can't I?
    Also don't the apps have to optimized to run on x64.
    sent from my rare green linux 830
    11-10-2014 09:12 AM
  15. sahib lopez's Avatar
    When I read Cosmo I thought of cosco :3
    sent from my rare green linux 830
    11-10-2014 09:15 AM
  16. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Can't quote since It wont let me.
    Anyways i knew it was never CPU based hence the more ram comment. My problem isn't with CPU. It's with many saying we need it regardless if it's done right or wrong . How do I know apple implementation is spot on or just a gimmick? I could question it can't I?
    Also don't the apps have to optimized to run on x64.
    sent from my rare green linux 830
    No. Most apps are 32 bit based and 32 bit programs can run on 64 bit processors. If the OS is set up correctly, as I pointed out, it will be more optimized.

    Most Windows programs are 32 bit still.

    You don't know if it's optimized, which is my point, so saying it's a gimmick is incorrect. Simple fact is, you don't know. As for RAM, it doen't really matter as most apps, aside from games, don't use much RAM. Again, OS optimization.

    Normally it is games and other graphic intensive programs that will use 64 bit processors fully.
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    11-10-2014 09:20 AM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Oh no wonder why its thin :p
    It isn't thin. The Z Ultra is thin. It feels a little thinner than a 1520 because of the gentle sloping it the back...but they're about the same.

    I would have a clue since I now own all 3...

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    11-10-2014 09:24 AM
  18. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    So this misconception needs to end here.

    A 32 bit CPU can support more than 4GB of RAM. The limitation is based on the OS, not the CPU.

    The reason you go between 32 or 64 bit computing has little to do with the RAM issue. 64 bit systems are far more efficient because you can run two 32 bit processes at the same time. The allowance of more RAM per process allows for smoother operation of dual processes. A lot depends on the OS and how it's set up however. That's why my comment was about the OS rather than the actual CPU.

    64 bit processing is purely based on OS performance and how it optimizes processes within the OS. If it's not set up correctly you won't see any benefit.

    That's why having a 64 bit processor is not a gimmick if done right.
    Better chip set and better tweaked OS = better battery life, since many knuckleheaded consumers want skinny phone with super batteries.

    Posted Approved 1+1 Style!
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    11-10-2014 09:25 AM
  19. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    It isn't thin. The Z Ultra is thin. It feels a little thinner than a 1520 because of the gentle sloping it the back...but they're about the same.

    I would have a clue since I now own all 3...

    And here is the proof. The 925 still takes good pictures...and I was reminded as to how useless the WPC app can be...cannot upload pictures directly easily. Meanwhile on the 1+1, I snap, click and post...SMH...

    wp_20141110_10_25_23_pro.jpgwp_20141110_10_26_29_pro.jpgwp_20141110_10_26_51_pro.jpgwp_20141110_10_28_02_pro.jpg

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    11-10-2014 09:38 AM
  20. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Shout out to MobileNations for improving the WPC site. Uploading pictures are now a breeze...used to be such an ***-pain. Maybe I will use the mobile site a bit more instead of the Android app or Jay's app.
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    11-10-2014 09:40 AM
  21. sahib lopez's Avatar
    No. Most apps are 32 bit based and 32 bit programs can run on 64 bit processors. If the OS is set up correctly, as I pointed out, it will be more optimized.

    Most Windows programs are 32 bit still.

    You don't know if it's optimized, which is my point, so saying it's a gimmick is incorrect. Simple fact is, you don't know. As for RAM, it doen't really matter as most apps, aside from games, don't use much RAM. Again, OS optimization.

    Normally it is games and other graphic intensive programs that will use 64 bit processors fully.

    Lol don't mind being corrected at 7:46 am 😉. Thanks
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    11-10-2014 09:47 AM
  22. sahib lopez's Avatar
    It isn't thin. The Z Ultra is thin. It feels a little thinner than a 1520 because of the gentle sloping it the back...but they're about the same.

    I would have a clue since I now own all 3...

    Posted Approved 1+1 Style!

    The pictures I seen made it look thin o.o ......... I've been misled 😞
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    11-10-2014 09:47 AM
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    O.o the 1520 looks normal size to the ultra .....wow
    11-10-2014 09:49 AM
  24. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Time to work out and test it
    Out my band
    sent from my rare green linux 830
    11-10-2014 09:51 AM
  25. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Rue, I got this bamboo case that took a month (free Chinese shipping) to arrive that I'm going to test drive for my 1+1. I may get this wine cork case for the unicorn as well. My environmentalist sister would be proud as it goes nicely with my Marley Headphones that are made out of wood as well.

    And yes, it is a pain in the *** to remove. I have to tale the bottom part off for access to the USB port. Thankfully I can still plug headphones in.
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    11-10-2014 09:51 AM
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