1. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Do you have T-Mobile? The Xperia z3 is only for T-Mobile.
    If he's going the carrier branded route, you're right. If he goes the unlocked route, he can get a Z3 from Sony US with the North American LTE bands for both AT&T and T-Mobile....and that's still cheaper than an iPhone 6+, 16GB version. It may run him the same price as a iPhone 6 64GB outright.

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    12-21-2014 10:24 PM
  2. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Cameras on Nexus has never been a strong suit...although the N5 and now the N6 are better.

    If 5.5" (iPhone 6+ size) is what you want for Android, then you can go with any of these:

    1) Oneplus One
    2) LG G3
    3) Samsung Note 3 or Note 4
    4) Sony Xperia Z3 or Z2

    All of these have good cameras.

    There are very few 6" Androids, most of which have ****ty cameras. I could add Huawei's Ascent line here, but I won't.

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    12-21-2014 10:29 PM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    you can always root it ;P well you can jailbreak the iPhone but idk if there is a jailbreak for ios 8 o.o
    While you can root it, rooting doesn't always improve the camera feature from a hardware perspective. Truth be told,not everyone should root an Android phone for the same reason that not everyone should jailbreak a fruit stand device.

    Rooting done incorrectly can compromise your phone's overall experience. For example, rooting the Xperia Z3 without doing at minimum a TA backup can mess with the camera's low light software.

    So if Ed is looking to buy and Android, it boils down to figuring out his needs.

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    12-21-2014 10:33 PM
  4. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Do you have T-Mobile? The Xperia z3 is only for T-Mobile.
    Oh no, I'm an AT&T lifer... I've had AT&T for over 10 years now. I'd never switch to another carrier.


    Thanks for the explanations Mia!
    12-21-2014 10:34 PM
  5. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    So...the GF isn't going to the gym tomorrow. That means my plan to surprise cook for her loses 3 hours. It means I need to be out of her house by 5:30pm. My goal is to cook and not be in her apartment when she comes home.

    I plan to make garlic shrimp with roasted asparagus and red peppers and boiled potatoes. I may also saute some mushrooms too. I'm doing just enough that she can get 3 servings out of it since I'm spending Xmas at her house - one dinner serving and two lunch servings.

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    12-21-2014 10:40 PM
  6. Ed Boland's Avatar
    While you can root it, rooting doesn't always improve the camera feature from a hardware perspective. Truth be told,not everyone should root an Android phone for the same reason that not everyone should jailbreak a fruit stand device.

    Rooting done incorrectly can compromise your phone's overall experience. For example, rooting the Xperia Z3 without doing at minimum a TA backup can mess with the camera's low light software.

    So if Ed is looking to buy and Android, it boils down to figuring out his needs.

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    Well, I don't really have any needs lol ...thats just it, my 1520 handles everything I "need" a phone to do (though since the latest update, wifi and cellular connectivity have been rather shoddy to say the least!) I'd just like to get an all around good "flagship android" phone eventually (along with the latest fruit stand device ;)), so I can gain the experience and find out what I've been missing. I'm trying to stay open minded about these ecosystems.. I mean, I'm a loyal WP fan, and I'll surely buy the first Windows 10 flagship phone if it ever comes out, but nothing's stopping me from trying different things. You know what they say; variety is the spice of life! :)
    12-21-2014 10:47 PM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Oh no, I'm an AT&T lifer... I've had AT&T for over 10 years now. I'd never switch to another carrier.


    Thanks for the explanations Mia!
    You got it. Since you're an AT&T guy, you can either stick with them and fish around to get a model on the cheap (One M8, Moto X 2014 can be on your list if camera isn't as important) or look at a used Z2 or Z Ultra if you want that ginormous screen. both the Z2 and the Z Ultra LTE models have the AT&T radios in there so you still get their speeds. It t also boils down to what you're willing to spend. If you're peeking in on Android but on a budget, a Moto X 2013 model is a nice get. You'll get a 4.7" screen in a phone the size of the 925 but runs on the same software as the Nexus 6. 99 can find you a good used model for under $250.

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    12-21-2014 10:47 PM
  8. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Well, I don't really have any needs lol ...thats just it, my 1520 handles everything I "need" a phone to do (though since the latest update, wifi and cellular connectivity have been rather shoddy to say the least!) I'd just like to get an all around good "flagship android" phone eventually (along with the latest fruit stand device ;)), so I can gain the experience and find out what I've been missing. I'm trying to stay open minded about these ecosystems.. I mean, I'm a loyal WP fan, and I'll surely buy the first Windows 10 flagship phone if it ever comes out, but nothing's stopping me from trying different things. You know what they say; variety is the spice of life! :)
    If money isn't any issue, and you want the latest and greatest, get a Note 4 on the Android side - or slightly cheaper with the Xperia Z3. If you're not looking to sink too much money into Android but want a good experience, a Oneplus One, Xperia Z2, or at the right price points a Moto X 2014 or even a LG G3 can be a treat for you. If you're being cheap and merely taking a flyer here, a Moto X 2013 or a good condition One M8 is a good recommendation.

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    12-21-2014 10:54 PM
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    So...the GF isn't going to the gym tomorrow. That means my plan to surprise cook for her loses 3 hours. It means I need to be out of her house by 5:30pm. My goal is to cook and not be in her apartment when she comes home.

    I plan to make garlic shrimp with roasted asparagus and red peppers and boiled potatoes. I may also saute some mushrooms too. I'm doing just enough that she can get 3 servings out of it since I'm spending Xmas at her house - one dinner serving and two lunch servings.

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    the word shrimp makes me hungry even though I just ate
    12-21-2014 10:56 PM
  10. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Hmmm a Note 4 eh?
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    12-21-2014 10:59 PM
  11. Ed Boland's Avatar
    I'm off tomorrow, so I'll probably cruise up to my regular at&t store and check a few things out. Knowing me though, as I'm not easily impressed, I'll probably walk out with nothing lol..
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    12-21-2014 11:02 PM
  12. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Welp.. I guess I need to go to bed. I'm gonna fire up PLEX and put a movie on... I'll be out in about 5-10 minutes. Night y'all!
    12-21-2014 11:04 PM
  13. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Hmmm a Note 4 eh?
    Latest and greatest, yes. I'd pick it over the N6. Simply for the split screen and multi window functionality. All phablets outside of the Note line, with a slight exception to the iPhone 6+ are merely bigger screened phones that don't always leverage the big screen as well as possible.

    Note 4 smokes the N6 on:

    1) removable battery
    2) more storage with microSD card slot
    3) way better camera (it has OIS)
    4) S Pen
    5) Multi window

    N6 is better in the fact that it is a Google phone so it is bleeding edge with software updates and it has Qi built-in.

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    12-21-2014 11:05 PM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm off tomorrow, so I'll probably cruise up to my regular at&t store and check a few things out. Knowing me though, as I'm not easily impressed, I'll probably walk out with nothing lol..
    Enjoy your trip there. Let us know what happens.

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    12-21-2014 11:06 PM
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    the word shrimp makes me hungry even though I just ate
    You always crave shrimp. What else is new?

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    12-21-2014 11:07 PM
  16. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Anyhow, I'm off to bed.

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    12-21-2014 11:07 PM
  17. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Welp.. I guess I need to go to bed. I'm gonna fire up PLEX and put a movie on... I'll be out in about 5-10 minutes. Night y'all!
    later
    12-21-2014 11:59 PM
  18. sahib lopez's Avatar
    You always crave shrimp. What else is new?

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    I like chicken too :P
    12-22-2014 12:00 AM
  19. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    O.o they showed Nokia camera app on w10. I'm over here thinking if the apps go universal with the market share they already have in the PC market, companies couldn't ignore that.
    I agree with MIA. Though I'm willing to be proven wrong.
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    12-22-2014 12:14 AM
  20. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Ed, I'd say get the Z3 but I may be a bit biased.

    I have no complaints with the Z3 and thanks to the great apps from MS I don't feel like I'm missing anything. :)

    From what I'm reading if you're after a big flagship then Note 4 is the way to go. It appears like an all rounder and Samsung is quick with the updates for a change. Whether you're a Touchwiz fan is a different question.
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    12-22-2014 12:18 AM
  21. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I agree with MIA. Though I'm willing to be proven wrong.
    im saying if :P.. giving msft the benefit of the doubt
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    12-22-2014 12:33 AM
  22. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    im saying if .. giving msft the benefit of the doubt
    MS has to prove one thing to both users and developers. I can sum it in one word. Value.

    That is going to be tough.
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    12-22-2014 12:47 AM
  23. Muessig's Avatar
    One more day at work then I'm off for Christmas!
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    12-22-2014 01:52 AM
  24. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    One more day at work then I'm off for Christmas!
    I'll race ya! :P
    12-22-2014 01:53 AM
  25. Muessig's Avatar
    I'll race ya! :P
    How long are you off for? I've got 'til the 5th Jan.
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    12-22-2014 02:04 AM
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