1. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    So MS has finally published proof that low end phones are where their customer base is.

    Microsoft: 71 percent of Windows Phone apps are installed on low memory devices | Windows Central

    Surprise, surprise! That's like saying standing in 100 mph winds is dangerous. What did they expect when they haven't given any reason for anyone to switch to WP and that low end markets are a bit more forgiving for lack of apps or are happy to use 3rd party?

    Well, I guess we will continue to see a barrage of low/mid end hardware if this is their target market. I'm glad I left now.
    They're spinning it as targeting emerging markets and getting the word out to everyone that WP is viable. On the one hand that's not a bad thing, but it can be an issue when something really satisfied with the OS wants to go from a lower end model to something high end...only to find no real mid range of high end choices.

    Posted Approved by Nexus 7 (2013)
    12-23-2014 09:38 AM
  2. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I think if I did that my battery would last a lot longer. The only issue then would be tell my wife to contact me by email only at work when she needs to. I wouldn't get any calls though. Which could be an issue.
    Yup. You need peace with the wife so it is better to leave it as is.

    Posted Approved by Nexus 7 (2013)
    12-23-2014 09:41 AM
  3. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    They're spinning it as targeting emerging markets and getting the word out to everyone that WP is viable. On the one hand that's not a bad thing, but it can be an issue when something really satisfied with the OS wants to go from a lower end model to something high end...only to find no real mid range of high end choices.

    Posted Approved by Nexus 7 (2013)
    Thing is, even if they brought out a high end model with the issues they have with apps it won't help them. We now have threads with people complaining about Snapchat. Instagram was the issue before. Some months from now it will be something else. That's the problem with WP.

    This has to be fixed for WP to be even considered a choice in most markets, let alone the USA.

    I think WP is great if you have no interest in social media or the latest thing. So it's a great phone for older people or those not interested in those things I mentioned.

    Hence why WP is niche still. I'm still not happy with the whole 3rd party app scene either and I think if developers have their way 3rd parties would go. They may end up using the privacy angle as a way of doing it finally. Who knows?
    12-23-2014 09:44 AM
  4. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I know that tech and phones and other things like that are supposed to be our topics now. BUT, I can't help but get really annoyed that in our modern day and age money has to be spent on stupid studies like this - Effect of human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccination on clinical indicators of sexual behaviour among adolescent girls: the Ontario Grade 8 HPV Vaccine Cohort Study
    12-23-2014 09:48 AM
  5. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    To use an old phrase... the S T U P I D it burns!!!
    12-23-2014 09:49 AM
  6. worldspy99's Avatar
    That's a lot of phones.... O.o

    What models?
    Four 822, one 520, one 635 and one Sammy Android. Nothing you would sneeze at though☺
    12-23-2014 10:00 AM
  7. worldspy99's Avatar
    I've lost track of when I last charged my phone! I'm at 29% 3hrs screen on time. I guess that's OK. I think I'm on day four..
    Cool. Same here....
    12-23-2014 10:00 AM
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    This day is seriously dragging... :/
    Unfortunately I have to get all travel booked for my trip today...so it is going to be a crazy day.
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    12-23-2014 10:01 AM
  9. Muessig's Avatar
    I'm not sure if anything out at the moment tickles my fancy. Most likely the 930 as its a bit of a modern sidegrade for my 920. Not looking to leave wp as a platform - there's life in the old girl yet - unless there's an absolutely unbelievable deal.
    12-23-2014 10:03 AM
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    I'm not sure if anything out at the moment tickles my fancy. Most likely the 930 as its a bit of a modern sidegrade for my 920. Not looking to leave wp as a platform - there's life in the old girl yet - unless there's an absolutely unbelievable deal.
    For now just use a wireless charger. I'm happy to loan you a WP device. If you can find a broken 920 with an intact motherboard I'm happy to swap it out for you.
    12-23-2014 10:05 AM
  11. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I'm not sure if anything out at the moment tickles my fancy. Most likely the 930 as its a bit of a modern sidegrade for my 920. Not looking to leave wp as a platform - there's life in the old girl yet - unless there's an absolutely unbelievable deal.
    It's probably just a loose connection at the USB. You should be able to fix it either with a replacement or a bit of soldering.

    As for a L930, I guess if that tickles your fancy.
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    12-23-2014 10:06 AM
  12. Muessig's Avatar
    For now just use a wireless charger. I'm happy to loan you a WP device. If you can find a broken 920 with an intact motherboard I'm happy to swap it out for you.
    It's not so much that I have to charge it wirelessly, it's that I can't sync my music to the thing, quick is a big party of what I do with the device.
    12-23-2014 10:09 AM
  13. worldspy99's Avatar
    It's probably just a loose connection at the USB. You should be able to fix it either with a replacement or a bit of soldering.

    As for a L930, I guess if that tickles your fancy.
    Lesson learnt on 822 USB replacement is you get broken microphones after the repair rendering you with a speakerphone☺
    12-23-2014 10:09 AM
  14. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    It's not so much that I have to charge it wirelessly, it's that I can't sync my music to the thing, quick is a big party of what I do with the device.
    This is where that new WiFi direct type technology would come in handy.
    12-23-2014 10:14 AM
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    Thing is, even if they brought out a high end model with the issues they have with apps it won't help them. We now have threads with people complaining about Snapchat. Instagram was the issue before. Some months from now it will be something else. That's the problem with WP.

    This has to be fixed for WP to be even considered a choice in most markets, let alone the USA.

    I think WP is great if you have no interest in social media or the latest thing. So it's a great phone for older people or those not interested in those things I mentioned.

    Hence why WP is niche still. I'm still not happy with the whole 3rd party app scene either and I think if developers have their way 3rd parties would go. They may end up using the privacy angle as a way of doing it finally. Who knows?
    What MSFT could do is contract some of the well known 3rd party devs like Rudy Huyn to do the 1st party apps but with the blessing of the provider. For instance, do a contract with Snapchat and let Rudy run the app.

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    12-23-2014 10:15 AM
  16. Muessig's Avatar
    I'm a bit torn and I will have to do more research over Christmas. Any pro's and cons to 930 I might not be aware of?
    12-23-2014 10:16 AM
  17. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I'm a bit torn and I will have to do more research over Christmas. Any proofs and cons to 930 I might not be aware of?
    I think the biggest con for me with the L930 was the battery life. I could live without the rest. Specs are a debatable argument with WP but it would be nice to feel you had a device that would last for a bit. Keep in mind the Icon (L930) was released in Feb this year. It's almost a year old. If that doesn't bother you than go for it.
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    12-23-2014 10:20 AM
  18. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    What MSFT could do is contract some of the well known 3rd party devs like Rudy Huyn to do the 1st party apps but with the blessing of the provider. For instance, do a contract with Snapchat and let Rudy run the app.

    Posted Approved by Nexus 7 (2013)
    That would be ideal. I wouldn't be surprised to learn they may have tried that and failed. Then again, maybe they're doing that now with some devs. We never know what MS is up to.
    12-23-2014 10:20 AM
  19. Muessig's Avatar
    If I were to get the 930 it would be with selling it in mind when the next head turning flagship Congress along.
    12-23-2014 10:21 AM
  20. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    If I were to get the 930 it would be with selling it in mind when the next head turning flagship Congress along.
    That's always an option. If there's a market for them. The L920 doesn't have much left of it.
    12-23-2014 10:23 AM
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    I know that tech and phones and other things like that are supposed to be our topics now. BUT, I can't help but get really annoyed that in our modern day and age money has to be spent on stupid studies like this - Effect of human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccination on clinical indicators of sexual behaviour among adolescent girls: the Ontario Grade 8 HPV Vaccine Cohort Study
    For a moment I thought I saw something from some backwoods deep in the dark recesses of a first world country that still held onto 1940s heterosexual views.

    The sad thing is that there are still too many people who hold onto these views here in 2014. I saw that Bosnian article recently about those 28 adolescent girls who went on some field trip and 7 came back pregnant and just shook my head at the outrage of the parents. Folks, western society has commercialized sex is such a way that many of the youth coming to p don't know how to decipher the complex messages. We should sit down with our kids and be honest with them about the pros and con's of sex, especially during adolescence on a social, emotional and economic level. Even though there are significant developmental changes during adolescence, if you break it down into a language they'll understand, they'll make smarter choices.

    It's still like saying condoms in schools chase teens to have more sex, selling emergency contraception in the stores without a prescription causes teens to have more sex. More lunacy that we don't need. The problem is that the people with these Looney views have "old money".

    (Drops mic)

    Posted Approved by Nexus 7 (2013)
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    12-23-2014 10:25 AM
  22. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Four 822, one 520, one 635 and one Sammy Android. Nothing you would sneeze at though☺
    We should stop calling you 99 and call you ol' 822 in these parts...

    Posted Approved by Nexus 7 (2013)
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    12-23-2014 10:27 AM
  23. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm a bit torn and I will have to do more research over Christmas. Any pro's and cons to 930 I might not be aware of?
    Boils down to how you use that battery. Everything else is solid. I'd still love to try one out...but I have a 1520.3 to occupy me these days.

    Posted Approved by Nexus 7 (2013)
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    12-23-2014 10:29 AM
  24. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    For a moment I thought I saw something from some backwoods deep in the dark recesses of a first world country that still held onto 1940s heterosexual views.

    The sad thing is that there are still too many people who hold onto these views here in 2014. I saw that Bosnian article recently about those 28 adolescent girls who went on some field trip and 7 came back pregnant and just shook my head at the outrage of the parents. Folks, western society has commercialized sex is such a way that many of the youth coming to p don't know how to decipher the complex messages. We should sit down with our kids and be honest with them about the pros and con's of sex, especially during adolescence on a social, emotional and economic level. Even though there are significant developmental changes during adolescence, if you break it down into a language they'll understand, they'll make smarter choices.

    It's still like saying condoms in schools chase teens to have more sex, selling emergency contraception in the stores without a prescription causes teens to have more sex. More lunacy that we don't need. The problem is that the people with these Looney views have "old money".

    (Drops mic)

    Posted Approved by Nexus 7 (2013)
    My biggest issue is the reasoning for the study in the first place. There's a lot of messed up people who believe that people should be punished for promiscuity. That's the main reason why parents are opting out of the HPV. There are way too many people who think HIV should be used as a deterrent to sex along with all the STDs. They think it's apt punishment. That's my issue here.

    Add in that most parents don't discuss sex with their kids and lots oppose sex education in schools and it's no wonder there's so much ignorance on the subject. It's been proven that education in sex reduces teen pregnancy rates and STDs.

    I sometimes wonder when we'll be able to grow up some time and stop realising that sex isn't an issue, isn't a problem, it's a natural part of life.

    I could go on to say what I really feel, which I've skipped, but I'm sure MIA knows who the people are I refer to in this post as being the 'problem'.
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    12-23-2014 10:37 AM
  25. Muessig's Avatar
    Boils down to how you use that battery. Everything else is solid. I'd still love to try one out...but I have a 1520.3 to occupy me these days.

    Posted Approved by Nexus 7 (2013)

    It seems to have a 2400mah battery, which is bigger than on the 920, which I can make last 3 days already.
    12-23-2014 10:38 AM
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