1. worldspy99's Avatar
    I'll post one for you later. From India...
    Pakistan would work better for him but they are not part of this tournament.
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    05-05-2015 09:20 AM
  2. worldspy99's Avatar
    It's more than just about the sports world. It's about the world in general and how we keep marginalising women solely based on their looks.

    Then there's the issue of marginalising women simply for being a woman. But that's a whole other discussion and the number of factors involved in it would turn into a very lengthy discussion indeed.
    Where are Chregu and MSFTisMIA when we need them to "lean in"?
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    05-05-2015 09:21 AM
  3. Josiah23's Avatar
    That moment when this Wifi disconnects every 2 minutes. 😑😢

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    05-05-2015 09:21 AM
  4. worldspy99's Avatar
    Ohaa... same problem here :(
    I'll have some this week and post a picture in the eats thread.
    05-05-2015 09:22 AM
  5. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Where are Chregu and MSFTisMIA when we need them to "lean in"?
    MSFTisMIA.... is MIA? :P

    Ah, Chregu... wish he would have at least sent me an email. :/
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    05-05-2015 09:22 AM
  6. worldspy99's Avatar
    (serious tone)
    Then make it a lengthy discussion.
    You know, it takes a real man to know that one woman is enough for him.
    But these bastards don't deserve a woman in their life.
    You should have been around last summer, it would take me an hour or more to catch up...
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    05-05-2015 09:23 AM
  7. worldspy99's Avatar
    MSFTisMIA.... is MIA?

    Ah, Chregu... wish he would have at least sent me an email. :/
    Oh he'll chime in soon...
    About Chregu I am not sure☺
    05-05-2015 09:24 AM
  8. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Oh he'll chime in soon...
    About Chregu I am not sure☺
    Yeah.
    05-05-2015 09:30 AM
  9. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Where are Chregu and MSFTisMIA when we need them to "lean in"?
    You cut my salary in half so me leaning in happens only half the time...

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    05-05-2015 10:14 AM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Oh he'll chime in soon...
    About Chregu I am not sure☺
    Folks I'm closing out medical visits this morning and it has been busy in clinic. Here's the short version. We are different but equal (men, women, transgender). Now since this is a conversation about men and women, I'll leave the trans folks out for a moment.

    It really isn't about a ratio (1:1 or multiple women to one man), its about respect for the other gender. If the culture allows for multiple women to one man, as long as the man treats all the women with respect and handles his responsibilities, no grief from me. If your culturee stresses a 1:1 ratio, then treat the person with respect and no grief from me.The problem is there has been created through patriarchy this sense of entitlement of her the control of women, especially their bodies, which really annoys me. Each gender brings something unique and yet complimentary to the table.

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    05-05-2015 10:25 AM
  11. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Folks I'm closing out medical visits this morning and it has been busy in clinic. Here's the short version. We are different but equal (men, women, transgender). Now since this is a conversation about men and women, I'll leave the trans folks out for a moment.

    It really isn't about a ratio (1:1 or multiple women to one man), its about respect for the other gender. If the culture allows for multiple women to one man, as long as the man treats all the women with respect and handles his responsibilities, no grief from me. If your culturee stresses a 1:1 ratio, then treat the person with respect and no grief from me.The problem is there has been created through patriarchy this sense of entitlement of her the control of women, especially their bodies, which really annoys me. Each gender brings something unique and yet complimentary to the table.

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    I was waiting to continue the conversation with Fire but nothing happened.

    There are matriarchal societies.... 6 Modern Societies Where Women Literally Rule | Mental Floss

    As you can see they are rare and small.
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    05-05-2015 10:39 AM
  12. Fire 29's Avatar
    There's nothing wrong with a woman being attractive or for a man to look at attractive women in general. There is an issue where a woman is demeaned for being attractive and their attractiveness outweighs any other ability be it sport, sciences or anything else for that matter.

    We as a global society, on the whole, demean women for the simple fact of being women. A lot of this stems from our perception that men are somehow superior because we are 'supposedly' better. Lots of this stems from our supposed superior strength. Might is right nonsense.

    Then take that mentality, add a male supreme being and male followers of said being. Then make 'man' one step below said supreme being and you get the other major issues around this whole demeaning of women. I can direct you to some great literature from some of the so called 'great minds' of these followers of the supreme being and their perspectives of women. To sum it up however it would be horrible, dreadful and vile. You wonder how we even got to the state we are now sometimes.

    It's okay to think or call a girl as attractive. It's even natural. But if you try to harass or harm her with the intention to do so, then that's very "bad". Some people are so as*holes that their subconscious is so dead that they don't feel anything while doing such things. They need a serious as* kicking.
    05-05-2015 10:41 AM
  13. Fire 29's Avatar
    I was waiting to continue the conversation with Fire but nothing happened.

    There are matriarchal societies.... 6 Modern Societies Where Women Literally Rule | Mental Floss

    As you can see they are rare and small.

    We need some of this in the developed and developing countries.
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    05-05-2015 10:48 AM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    It's okay to think or call a girl as attractive. It's even natural. But if you try to harass or harm her with the intention to do so, then that's very "bad". Some people are so as*holes that their subconscious is so dead that they don't feel anything while doing such things. They need a serious as* kicking.
    The problem with this is having it in the culture that says it is acceptable. So if you're a whole *** who cat calls to try to talk to women, and for every 10 girls you cat call and at least 1-2 answer, you're going say it it OK to do so because all you're looking for is an opening. There are many woman I don't compliment because they don't know how to take a compliment as a compliment only. There are some who i do and once they see I am not trying to holler at them, really appreciate it. That's why when I do I'll state why they csught my eye (the color of the clothes, the hair, etc.) You cannot blame them either because some guys give a compliment with the intent of seeking more. And some women think they're all that and they're not, even if on the outside they can be eye catching.

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    05-05-2015 10:49 AM
  15. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    It's okay to think or call a girl as attractive. It's even natural. But if you try to harass or harm her with the intention to do so, then that's very "bad". Some people are so as*holes that their subconscious is so dead that they don't feel anything while doing such things. They need a serious as* kicking.
    There's this problem with the idea of entitlement, as MIA pointed out. Some men feel that they can say and do whatever they want with regards to women. The women's feelings have no say in the matter.

    I've seen many many documentaries where women are considered less than dirt by men. This is not directed at any one society either. It appears very universal. Some societies are worse than others but the general consensus seems to be that women should take whatever a man says as a compliment and should accept that men 'want' them. Sort of like property or any other purchase.

    You are right that these men deserve a mental beating however it's so ingrained into our societies that any change is an uphill battle. Just being called a 'feminist' these days gets you death threats and your address displayed on social media sites. Then people say they're just 'joking around' and it shouldn't be taken seriously. It's bloody scary.

    This is where we are in society today. Being a woman typically means being 'less'.

    I agree with MIA that whatever consenting adults want to do as long as they agree to respect the other person I can care less what relationship they're in. None of my business or anyone else for that matter.

    Respect is the key here though and it's very low in regard to a lot men's views on women. There's much to point out in the US alone how low society keeps going. Let alone other parts of the world.
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    05-05-2015 10:58 AM
  16. Fire 29's Avatar
    The problem with this is having it in the culture that says it is acceptable. So if you're a whole *** who cat calls to try to talk to women, and for every 10 girls you cat call and at least 1-2 answer, you're going say it it OK to do so because all you're looking for is an opening. There are many woman I don't compliment because they don't know how to take a compliment as a compliment only. There are some who i do and once they see I am not trying to holler at them, really appreciate it. That's why when I do I'll state why they csught my eye (the color of the clothes, the hair, etc.) You cannot blame them either because some guys give a compliment with the intent of seeking more. And some women think they're all that and they're not, even if on the outside they can be eye catching.

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    No one is perfect. Whether its a girl or a boy. Nobody's life is perfect. Everyone is fighting their own battles. And no person is the same. Out of the more than 7 billion people on the planet, no two persons are the same.
    So you can't treat every girl the same way or every boy the same way. We have all the extremes: the great, the good, the bad, the worse.
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    05-05-2015 11:05 AM
  17. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    No one is perfect. Whether its a girl or a boy. Nobody's life is perfect. Everyone is fighting their own battles. And no person is the same. Out of the more than 7 billion people on the planet, no two persons are the same.
    So you can't treat every girl the same way or every boy the same way. We have all the extremes: the great, the good, the bad, the worse.
    A simpler way if saying it is:

    The good, the bad and the ugly.

    Yes everyone is different but the idea of respect in the individual is not. That's where the issue lies.
    05-05-2015 11:11 AM
  18. worldspy99's Avatar
    Well at least it is a better successor to the Lumia 520! And cheaper than the 521 that I bought almost two years ago...
    Has FFC and more RAM and a slightly bigger battery. The rear camera is however no bueno...should still sell like hot cakes...

    Buy T-Mobile - Microsoft Lumia 435 (White) - No Contract - Microsoft Store
    05-05-2015 11:12 AM
  19. Mohamed Ashid's Avatar
    MS is releasing way too many Lumias with the same specs....
    05-05-2015 11:14 AM
  20. worldspy99's Avatar
    Would be interesting to see how this stacks up against the Lumia 640.

    This is the Verizon LG Lancet Windows Phone with Update 2 | Windows Central
    05-05-2015 11:16 AM
  21. worldspy99's Avatar
    MS is releasing way too many Lumias with the same specs....
    I think that the 520, 521, 525 are all going to be phased out though. Same with 630 and 635 as well.
    05-05-2015 11:16 AM
  22. Fire 29's Avatar
    A simpler way if saying it is:

    The good, the bad and the ugly.

    Yes everyone is different but the idea of respect in the individual is not. That's where the issue lies.

    No, there are great people too. We either don't notice them most of the times or we don't try to find them.
    05-05-2015 11:17 AM
  23. worldspy99's Avatar
    The camera on the LG G4 seems to be pretty good! The Samsung S6 isn't half bad either. What is surprising that the iPhone 6Plus with OIS performs a bit worse than the iPhone 6, IMO.
    LG G4 camera test vs Samsung Galaxy S6, Apple iPhone 6, HTC One M9, and more
    05-05-2015 11:21 AM
  24. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    No, there are great people too. We either don't notice them most of the times or we don't try to find them.
    Depends what you mean by great. Some people's idea of great is polar opposite to mine.
    05-05-2015 11:46 AM
  25. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    There's this problem with the idea of entitlement, as MIA pointed out. Some men feel that they can say and do whatever they want with regards to women. The women's feelings have no say in the matter.

    I've seen many many documentaries where women are considered less than dirt by men. This is not directed at any one society either. It appears very universal. Some societies are worse than others but the general consensus seems to be that women should take whatever a man says as a compliment and should accept that men 'want' them. Sort of like property or any other purchase.

    You are right that these men deserve a mental beating however it's so ingrained into our societies that any change is an uphill battle. Just being called a 'feminist' these days gets you death threats and your address displayed on social media sites. Then people say they're just 'joking around' and it shouldn't be taken seriously. It's bloody scary.

    This is where we are in society today. Being a woman typically means being 'less'.

    I agree with MIA that whatever consenting adults want to do as long as they agree to respect the other person I can care less what relationship they're in. None of my business or anyone else for that matter.

    Respect is the key here though and it's very low in regard to a lot men's views on women. There's much to point out in the US alone how low society keeps going. Let alone other parts of the world.
    It forms the underpinning for some of the nastier elements of things one will see, for example "rape culture" in some societies is disturbing. I don't get how a woman can be in certain parts of India, for example, get raped in the back of a moving public transportation vechile and no one lift a finger to intervene - tourists and locals alike. I don't get how a girl on a US college campus in a short dressed who gets raped that people will say "she was asking for it based on what she was wearing". It's just as Rue said - a lack of value for difference and a lack of respect about difference.

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