1. azcruz's Avatar
    These are the triumvirate I use now...with all due respect to the M7, the Moto X knocked it off my list.

    Still, the M7 takes decent shots (lighting wasn't so great) and is indicative as to the frustrating slope HTC finds itself on...

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    I like the path you're taking. Keep it coming.
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    07-06-2015 07:48 PM
  2. azcruz's Avatar
    Downloading the current 530 firmware for rollback to 8.1, as I'm about to put 10 Insider Preview on this Lumia to see how well the current build work with 512MB devices.
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    07-06-2015 07:49 PM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    M2 Note is cheaper than M1 Note so price went down istead of up.
    Dev support is negligible because Aliyun OS locks down the bootloader. Alibaba owns Meizu and they are busy dictating terms here.
    Phone is rooted but since there is no dev support I don't want to delete the stock keyboard and then find out if the phone gets bricked because of that particular app missing from the device.....ergo....
    Makes sense. Still, I think the big Chinese push into India should cause dev support for some of these models to really pick up. I know that some of the US and European buyers won't touch them out of unfounded skepticism, but these are quality products at their price ranges...

    Just Another (Moto X 2014) Pure (Edition) Post!
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    07-06-2015 07:59 PM
  4. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Well contrary to popular belief on Windows Central, I don't hate HTC lol.

    Fun Fact: Prior to my love for windows phone, I was an Android fanboy....and out of the 40 or so android phones I owned, most were HTC :D

    HTC Droid Eris, Evo, Droid Incredible, Sensaiton, One X, and various other models I wont recall...My original Windows Phone was an 8x...which I think is beautiful.

    So I love HTC I just expect more than this subpar mess they call the m8 and M9....and I think they are inferior to Lumias :D
    There's a chance I could own an HTC windows phone as my main device over a Lumia....However, I cant see myself ever using another android phone again.

    So Android it is :D
    We can agree that the 8X was such a gorgeous device. I still say that the 925 and the 8X are the best designed phones of the WP area (from 7-8.1). I'd still own one if it wasn't just VZW with the Qi charging...

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    07-06-2015 08:02 PM
  5. worldspy99's Avatar
    And done :P


    Oh no bendgate had no factor in it...I simply won a Free iPhone 6 from T-Mobile lol.

    They were giving away 500 phones and I had the choice of a Galaxy S6, S6 Edge, Note 5, LG G4, and iPhone 6....
    I refuse to use Android even if it was free

    So I chose the iPhone 6.

    I would've loved if they offered the Lumia 640(since it is new) even though I have the 640 XL and until recently 1520 and I might have even settled with a free M8 windows again....but alas a windows phone wasn't offered so I chose the iPhone. Unfortunately it wasn't the 6 plus and I only got the 16 GB version...but for free, I cant be too choosy or complain haha

    I see it this way....iPhones have high resell value so in a few months when the new lumia out, it'll pay for my new lumia :D
    My WP and Android adventures are much easier to handle because of low prices of these devices. I would be bankrupt if I tried this with iOS devices:-)
    07-06-2015 08:05 PM
  6. worldspy99's Avatar
    Well contrary to popular belief on Windows Central, I don't hate HTC lol.

    Fun Fact: Prior to my love for windows phone, I was an Android fanboy....and out of the 40 or so android phones I owned, most were HTC :D

    HTC Droid Eris, Evo, Droid Incredible, Sensaiton, One X, and various other models I wont recall...My original Windows Phone was an 8x...which I think is beautiful.

    So I love HTC I just expect more than this subpar mess they call the m8 and M9....and I think they are inferior to Lumias :D
    There's a chance I could own an HTC windows phone as my main device over a Lumia....However, I cant see myself ever using another android phone again.

    So Android it is :D
    8X was really nice. My wife loved it, until I upgraded her to a Lumia 925....
    07-06-2015 08:06 PM
  7. worldspy99's Avatar
    Makes sense. Still, I think the big Chinese push into India should cause dev support for some of these models to really pick up. I know that some of the US and European buyers won't touch them out of unfounded skepticism, but these are quality products at their price ranges...

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    For some reason that hasn't happened because Meizu keeps releasing new phones so quickly....supposedly Lollipop is coming soon.
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    07-06-2015 08:08 PM
  8. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I like the path you're taking. Keep it coming.
    AZ, my upgrades are done:

    1) Won't upgrade the Z3 unless Sony offers something uber tremendous in the Z5.

    2) Won't upgrade the X 2014 unless someone is giving me a Moto Maxx or G4 with a black leather back and a tan leather spare (unlocked with t-mo bands) for free.

    3) Won't upgrade the 930 unless it is for a unicorn 1520. This'll be my last WP because its my last Nokia. Unless MSFT comes up with something stunning, they're in the same boat as Sony to me.

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    07-06-2015 08:11 PM
  9. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    For some reason that hasn't happened because Meizu keeps releasing new phones so quickly....supposedly Lollipop is coming soon.
    That's their trick now...if their after sales support is good, especially in the form of updates, they'll really take off...

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    07-06-2015 08:12 PM
  10. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I'm waiting for the 2015 Moto X and the 2015 Nexus. I'll probably get one of those. Right now based upon the rumors, it'll probably be the smaller Nexus. The new Moto is probably going to be a bigger device. The Nexus will also be easy to root and will get all the latest updates before any other Androids.

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    07-06-2015 08:15 PM
  11. worldspy99's Avatar
    I'm waiting for the 2015 Moto X and the 2015 Nexus. I'll probably get one of those. Right now based upon the rumors, it'll probably be the smaller Nexus. The new Moto is probably going to be a bigger device. The Nexus will also be easy to root and will get all the latest updates before any other Androids.

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    And get the latest bugs before any other Android as well. I am really not very happy with Lollipop versus how things were on KitKat. Same goes for iOS 8, it is so much worse than iOS 7. I really hope MSFT nails Win10 but time will tell...
    07-06-2015 08:19 PM
  12. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    And get the latest bugs before any other Android as well. I am really not very happy with Lollipop versus how things were on KitKat. Same goes for iOS 8, it is so much worse than iOS 7. I really hope MSFT nails Win10 but time will tell...
    I haven't noticed Lollipop being much different than KitKat, other than the light vs dark themes. 5.1.1 eliminated the memory leak.

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    07-06-2015 08:24 PM
  13. worldspy99's Avatar
    I haven't noticed Lollipop being much different than KitKat, other than the light vs dark themes. 5.1.1 eliminated the memory leak.

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    I still find that 5.1.1 runs a bit slower than 4.4.4. I have been using my Nexus since March 2014 and after Lollipop came I have come close to throwing it out of the window a couple of times, never had that issue with KitKat.
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    07-06-2015 08:27 PM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm waiting for the 2015 Moto X and the 2015 Nexus. I'll probably get one of those. Right now based upon the rumors, it'll probably be the smaller Nexus. The new Moto is probably going to be a bigger device. The Nexus will also be easy to root and will get all the latest updates before any other Androids.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
    Laura, I wouldn't be surprised if Moto has 2 versions of the X 2015, at 5.2" and 5.7". I think that LG will keep the Nexus in the 5-5.2" range and Huawei will be that 5.7-6.3" range. Guess 5" is the standard and for those who want smaller have to grab an iPhone or Sony ZxCompact at this point...

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    07-06-2015 08:38 PM
  15. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I still find that 5.1.1 runs a bit slower than 4.4.4. I have been using my Nexus since March 2014 and after Lollipop came I have come close to throwing it out of the window a couple of times, never had that issue with KitKat.
    5.1.1 on the X 2014 runs like a charm. So have what I've read about the N5 on 5.1.1. There are things about lollipop I still don't like, but may upgrade my Z3 to 5.1 eventually. I must say, it is a matter of hardware too...5.0.2 on the Z3 TC is so nice compared to 5.0.2 on the N7 2013. The memory leaks I had were as prolific as Sahib's strike out rates...

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    07-06-2015 08:41 PM
  16. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Laura, I wouldn't be surprised if Moto has 2 versions of the X 2015, at 5.2" and 5.7". I think that LG will keep the Nexus in the 5-5.2" range and Huawei will be that 5.7-6.3" range. Guess 5" is the standard and for those who want smaller have to grab an iPhone or Sony ZxCompact athst point...

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    Around 5-5.2" is fine for me. I just don't want anything as huge as the Nexus 6, iPhone 6+, or Lumia 1520.

    I think the bigger Moto X will probably be the one available here in the US. I'm not expecting 2 versions of the Moto X to be easily available.

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    07-06-2015 08:44 PM
  17. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I still find that 5.1.1 runs a bit slower than 4.4.4. I have been using my Nexus since March 2014 and after Lollipop came I have come close to throwing it out of the window a couple of times, never had that issue with KitKat.
    I haven't experienced that problem so far, even when multitasking. I'm almost always streaming music while having a browser with multiple tabs open, email app, and Tapatalk also running.

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    07-06-2015 08:47 PM
  18. azcruz's Avatar
    I'm in waiting mode...

    The iPhone 5S stays for my mobile banking. A bigger iPhone isn't really appealing to me.

    The Honor 6 satisfies my Android lust, octa-core (sic), 3GB of memory, hi-def screen, better than average camera, excellent LTE. All good.

    The Lumia 636 is my secondary LTE phone and is "the toy." The Cherry Mobile is my "near phablet" as I don't want anything larger.

    If I like to feel going back a few years, I bring out the 8S and Xperia V.
    07-06-2015 08:49 PM
  19. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Around 5-5.2" is fine for me. I just don't want anything as huge as the Nexus 6, iPhone 6+, or Lumia 1520.

    I think the bigger Moto X will probably be the one available here in the US. I'm not expecting 2 versions of the Moto X to be easily available.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
    Remember, Moto allows you to order direct from them. As long as they do away with the 16GB as the base model, I'm sure you can get the 32GB from them through Moto maker at a reasonable rate. If you get a Pure Edition, then you're on track to get updates faster than getting the AT&T model. Plus, pure Edition will support AT&T LTE just fine.

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    07-06-2015 08:54 PM
  20. azcruz's Avatar
    I haven't experienced that problem so far, even when multitasking. I'm almost always streaming music while having a browser with multiple tabs open, email app, and Tapatalk also running.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
    I am having second thoughts on installing the beta Lollipop for my Honor 6... Though rolling back is so easy.
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    07-06-2015 08:54 PM
  21. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm in waiting mode...

    The iPhone 5S stays for my mobile banking. A bigger iPhone isn't really appealing to me.

    The Honor 6 satisfies my Android lust, octa-core (sic), 3GB of memory, hi-def screen, better than average camera, excellent LTE. All good.

    The Lumia 636 is my secondary LTE phone and is "the toy." The Cherry Mobile is my "near phablet" as I don't want anything larger.

    If I like to feel going back a few years, I bring out the 8S and Xperia V.
    I'm waiting mode but pretty satisfied with what I have. The Moto X and Z3 are my primary phones, the 930 takes pictures and keeps me engaged in windows mobile. The T100 is still the workhorse. The Z3 tab is the ring bag, and the only thing I'd upgrade for 64-bit Android right now. I like my Sony Watch and want to get a Gen 1 360 as well.

    I'd want my old iPhone back...the Classic (AT&T locked) I had BNIB with iOS 1.0.0 on it that I didn't use for two years as it was kept as a collector's item. Otherwise, none of that fruit for me...

    Otherwise it is wait and see, mainly just to play with new stuff and not to buy them. Nothing truly compelling out...

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    07-06-2015 09:01 PM
  22. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Remember, Moto allows you to order direct from them. As long as they do away with the 16GB as the base model, I'm sure you can get the 32GB from them through Moto maker at a reasonable rate. If you get a Pure Edition, then you're on track to get updates faster than getting the AT&T model. Plus, pure Edition will support AT&T LTE just fine.

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    That's true. However, the last time I checked all they had whether Pure or AT&T branded was the 16GB. The impression I get is that the 32GB is harder to find.

    I know the Nexus usually sells out quickly, but Google gets more in stock.

    I noticed Lenovo usually is out of stock with their notebooks too. I saw that when I last shopped for a new notebook. I ended up buying an ASUS from Amazon, since Lenovo had nothing I wanted available on their website, and Amazon didn't have any Lenovo notebooks I wanted either.

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    07-06-2015 09:01 PM
  23. azcruz's Avatar
    <snip>Otherwise it is wait and see, mainly just to play with new stuff and not to buy them. Nothing truly compelling out...

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    I share the sentiment...
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    07-06-2015 09:02 PM
  24. azcruz's Avatar
    That's true. However, the last time I checked all they had whether Pure or AT&T branded was the 16GB. The impression I get is that the 32GB is harder to find.

    I know the Nexus usually sells out quickly, but Google gets more in stock.

    I noticed Lenovo usually is out of stock with their notebooks too. I saw that when I last shopped for a new notebook. I ended up buying an ASUS from Amazon, since Lenovo had nothing I wanted available on their website, and Amazon didn't have any Lenovo notebooks I wanted either.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
    Hi Laura, which Asus did you get? I almost got one last Sunday but I was torn between two 5Y71 models- the Chi and UX305.
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    07-06-2015 09:04 PM
  25. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Hi Laura, which Asus did you get? I almost got one last Sunday but I was torn between two 5Y71 models- the Chi and UX305.
    I've had it 1 years now.

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