1. Rose640's Avatar
    Communism has been implemented incorrectly in pretty much every country that it arose in. It's hard use any example as a proper measure if it was good or not.

    There are socialist countries, like Finland, where there is a mix of capitalist thinking and a socialist system where the poor, sick and old are well looked after. They just happen to have one of the best school systems in the world to.

    The problem you have in counties where capitalist ideas rule is that they believe it's the only method. You mention taxes to these people and you'd swear that you said a curse word. That's the problem. Capitalist society is pretty much the idea that low tax and free market are the only way to be successful. When the only measure of success is $$$ then you see why they think this way. That's why a school system like Finland's will never exist in capitalist controlled countries. Because it's too expensive which means higher taxes. Same with free health care.

    You can still have a competitive market and a good social system. Look up Denmark.

    The biggest issue you have is that in the last 40ish years there's been a concerted effort to make people believe that capitalism is good, taxes are bad, money is important, your neighbour should look after themselves and being poor is your fault. This is what I have issues with. The idea of individualism mixed with capitalist thinking has turned people into selfish greedy jerks for the most part.
    Yes it has been implemented badly. Just think of Russia when Lenin ruled, the idea of nobel society was still alive and beeing implemented. But then Josif happend and stuff went all crazy.

    Again, i'll have problems with Sport here but i have to say this.
    Yugoslavian system was pretty good, economy was good, there was no huge, if any differences between rich and poor. Classless society.

    I've always found it weird that you guys, specially Americans kinda hate your neighbours. In Bosnia we think of our neighbours as our closest relatives. Respect, hang out and helpe each other.
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    02-19-2016 03:07 AM
  2. Rose640's Avatar
    Slick roads with rain that was much needed here, thanks to El Nio = lots of $$ out of my pocket thanks to a car accident at a really shoddy curve on the way to work today morning. I'm going to be busy for the next week or two sorting that out.
    Wrote a post at 5am, got deleted for some reason.

    Hope you didn't get injured?
    Wish a quick recovery for your wallet, lol.
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    02-19-2016 03:08 AM
  3. Rose640's Avatar
    You're right about Yugo. Those cars were so bad that people in the US threw them away instead of fixing them when they broke.
    Believe it or not they cost less than 100$ here, lol.
    02-19-2016 03:09 AM
  4. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Yes it has been implemented badly. Just think of Russia when Lenin ruled, the idea of nobel society was still alive and beeing implemented. But then Josif happend and stuff went all crazy.

    Again, i'll have problems with Sport here but i have to say this.
    Yugoslavian system was pretty good, economy was good, there was no huge, if any differences between rich and poor. Classless society.

    I've always found it weird that you guys, specially Americans kinda hate your neighbours. In Bosnia we think of our neighbours as our closest relatives. Respect, hang out and helpe each other.
    Please don't think that all Americans are like that. Not all of us are so close minded.

    I've known people of many different races and nationalities, and I've noticed that people are more are more alike than different. I welcome neighbors from all over.
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    02-19-2016 03:28 AM
  5. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Please don't think that all Americans are like that. Not all of us are so close minded.

    I've known people of many different races and nationalities, and I've noticed that people are more are more alike than different. I welcome neighbors from all over.
    Ibid. 100%.

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    02-19-2016 06:41 AM
  6. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Communism has been implemented incorrectly in pretty much every country that it arose in. It's hard use any example as a proper measure if it was good or not.

    There are socialist countries, like Finland, where there is a mix of capitalist thinking and a socialist system where the poor, sick and old are well looked after. They just happen to have one of the best school systems in the world to.

    The problem you have in counties where capitalist ideas rule is that they believe it's the only method. You mention taxes to these people and you'd swear that you said a curse word. That's the problem. Capitalist society is pretty much the idea that low tax and free market are the only way to be successful. When the only measure of success is $$$ then you see why they think this way. That's why a school system like Finland's will never exist in capitalist controlled countries. Because it's too expensive which means higher taxes. Same with free health care.

    You can still have a competitive market and a good social system. Look up Denmark.

    The biggest issue you have is that in the last 40ish years there's been a concerted effort to make people believe that capitalism is good, taxes are bad, money is important, your neighbour should look after themselves and being poor is your fault. This is what I have issues with. The idea of individualism mixed with capitalist thinking has turned people into selfish greedy jerks for the most part.
    Ibid. 200%. Problem i have is some of these European countries you quoted have the luxury of not spending much on military and defense because the US does that for them. So they can offload that coin into beneficial social policy. So 'Murica bit off more than it could chew because it had to in some ways.

    This is a lot more complex and messy than a simple forum in some corner of the INTERNET can begin to cover, rose640. Rue and i were trying to highlight some salient points, but there's a lot to go read...

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    02-19-2016 06:49 AM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Morning folks. Enjoying that Mr. West playlist in a very nostalgic moment headed to work.

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    02-19-2016 06:50 AM
  8. Rose640's Avatar
    So apparently MS has no intention to fix Glance. It has been broken for me for at least last two months.

    I'm stuck on WM10 cause there's a bug that prevents me from connecting my phone to PC.

    Great.
    02-19-2016 11:02 AM
  9. sahib lopez's Avatar
    So apparently MS has no intention to fix Glance. It has been broken for me for at least last two months.

    I'm stuck on WM10 cause there's a bug that prevents me from connecting my phone to PC.

    Great.
    Did the update of glance fix it ?
    02-19-2016 11:35 AM
  10. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Do you really need a new phone or just want it? :) If you aren't in a rush I would wait for L950 to drop in price.
    Haha I just like having options :p
    02-19-2016 11:43 AM
  11. Sport Driver's Avatar
    Haha I just like having options :p
    Got you :D I'm starting to look into the new flagships that are coming on Sunday :) So far the biggest contender for place in my pocket at the end of the year is LG G5, it seems it will bring something new to the table. If those will be still to expensive I will just go for Nexus 6P.
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    02-19-2016 11:46 AM
  12. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Hey Sahib...i went nostalgic and made a Mr. West playlist, which had his stuff from 2009-2011...arguably the best sound Kanye had. I miss old school Kanye...he's gotten to be more hype man and Mr. Kardashian these days. Still plan to check on the Life of Pablo to hear what he's up to, but man "Power" and "Power" remix (feat. Jay-Z) are still some good stuffs.

    Maybe I'll pick up some Kendrick Lamar to stay current but I'm rocking that Mr. West playlist going to work tomorrow. Still say that Amber Rose detox album (My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy) is his best work yet...

    That was 6(!) years ago...wow...

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    I enjoyed" my beautiful dark twisted fantasy " it reminded me of graduation. The song I liked was all of the lights. I plan on listening to the life of Pablo. I hope he still has it
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    02-19-2016 11:49 AM
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    Got you :D I'm starting to look into the new flagships that are coming on Sunday :) So far the biggest contender for place in my pocket at the end of the year is LG G5, it seems it will bring something new to the table. If those will be still to expensive I will just go for Nexus 6P.
    There are many positive reviews for the G5! For me the G5 is my favorite andriod phone of 2015. You can go wrong with either phone :p
    02-19-2016 11:53 AM
  14. Sport Driver's Avatar
    There are many positive reviews for the G5! For me the G5 is my favorite andriod phone of 2015. You can go wrong with either phone :p
    Um G5 will be presented on Sunday, G4 was 2015 model.
    02-19-2016 11:55 AM
  15. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Um G5 will be presented on Sunday, G4 was 2015 model.
    Guess Sahib's brain is back to normal today...

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    02-19-2016 12:13 PM
  16. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I enjoyed" my beautiful dark twisted fantasy " it reminded me of graduation. The song I liked was all of the lights. I plan on listening to the life of Pablo. I hope he still has it
    We'll see. I have Yeezus, which was OK. Not as good as Watch the Throne or My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, but solid enough. I want to hear the "I miss the old Kayne" track on life of Pablo.

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    02-19-2016 12:15 PM
  17. Sport Driver's Avatar
    Guess Sahib's brain is back to normal today...

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    Meh can't judge him :)

    Oh and I forgot to tell, I will be getting Nexus 5X on test, like I did( regulars might remember) Galaxy S5 and Lumia 930 back in 2014. It will be first phone with fingerprint scanner I used :)
    02-19-2016 12:25 PM
  18. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Um G5 will be presented on Sunday, G4 was 2015 model.
    I was also thinking if there was a G5 but I wasn't sure. I guess the G4 sounded old to me hahah.
    02-19-2016 01:11 PM
  19. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Meh can't judge him :)

    Oh and I forgot to tell, I will be getting Nexus 5X on test, like I did( regulars might remember) Galaxy S5 and Lumia 930 back in 2014. It will be first phone with fingerprint scanner I used :)
    I saw a 5X at school a few days ago. it was the black version and man did I look nice
    02-19-2016 01:15 PM
  20. Sport Driver's Avatar
    I saw a 5X at school a few days ago. it was the black version and man did I look nice
    I really like it just heard some stuff it doesn't really work that great.
    02-19-2016 01:18 PM
  21. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Meh can't judge him :)

    Oh and I forgot to tell, I will be getting Nexus 5X on test, like I did( regulars might remember) Galaxy S5 and Lumia 930 back in 2014. It will be first phone with fingerprint scanner I used :)
    Mini-review! Mini-review!

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    02-19-2016 04:27 PM
  22. Sport Driver's Avatar
    Mini-review! Mini-review!

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    Sure, I just don't know when I will get it but I think it won't be very soon.
    02-19-2016 04:28 PM
  23. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Meh can't judge him :)

    Oh and I forgot to tell, I will be getting Nexus 5X on test, like I did( regulars might remember) Galaxy S5 and Lumia 930 back in 2014. It will be first phone with fingerprint scanner I used :)
    If we judged Sahib based on his being Sahib, he'd get such a long sentence in jail that it'd be better off just letting him back out into society...

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    02-19-2016 04:29 PM
  24. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I saw a 5X at school a few days ago. it was the black version and man did I look nice
    Love the ice blue. Saw that live in a #6 subway train going to work one day not too long after it was launched and i was over staring. Looks really good.

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    02-19-2016 04:30 PM
  25. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Sure, I just don't know when I will get it but I think it won't be very soon.
    Doesn't matter. More mini-reviews, the better.

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    02-19-2016 04:31 PM
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