[N_LaRUE]

What are your top things in a phone, and also what are your secondary things to consider? I think it would help to start there, as there are a number of choices that aren't as much, like the OnePlus 3(T).

My criteria is pretty simple.

Size - around 5"
Good battery
Good camera
Prefer waterproof (I live in the UK...)
As close to 'vanilla' Android as possible
Decent looking

After that I'm pretty easy

[libra89]

My criteria is pretty simple.

Size - around 5"
Good battery
Good camera
Prefer waterproof (I live in the UK...)
As close to 'vanilla' Android as possible
Decent looking

After that I'm pretty easy

Thanks for this!

Off the top of my head, it's hard to meet outside of the S7 (even though totally not vanilla Android at all), but I will dig. Sony is apparently announcing something new at MWC.

Edit: Nokia's teasers may or may not be good. We'll see but eh.

Edit (again) : Aside from the Pixel, I got nothing. I understand your statement. 5.5" is like the new standard size. Outside of the XZ, I can't find anything that meets all, if not most of this.

[N_LaRUE]

Thanks for this!

Off the top of my head, it's hard to meet outside of the S7 (even though totally not vanilla Android at all), but I will dig. Sony is apparently announcing something new at MWC.

I've never been interested in Samsung products. I got rid of my Samsung TV and I only have a very old tablet that I keep trying to get rid of. :P

Anything Sony brings out will be expensive and from what I heard it was going to be mid range but I could be wrong.

I could get the Sony XZ as it's now around £400 for it but I still haven't found a positive enough review on it that makes me want to buy it. I don't know if the update to 7 brought anything better to it. It is a nice device though. I have taken a decent look at it in store.

[libra89]

I've never been interested in Samsung products. I got rid of my Samsung TV and I only have a very old tablet that I keep trying to get rid of. :P

Anything Sony brings out will be expensive and from what I heard it was going to be mid range but I could be wrong.

I could get the Sony XZ as it's now around £400 for it but I still haven't found a positive enough review on it that makes me want to buy it. I don't know if the update to 7 brought anything better to it. It is a nice device though. I have taken a decent look at it in store.

Haha okay, I totally understand.

Very true! I wanted the XA so bad but that battery life was shameful. Hopefully the rumored device fixes that.

Ah okay, I see. It might be better to wait in this case then for MWC. I think waterproof phones might be more common,

[N_LaRUE]

Haha okay, I totally understand.

Very true! I wanted the XA so bad but that battery life was shameful. Hopefully the rumored device fixes that.

Ah okay, I see. It might be better to wait in this case then for MWC. I think waterproof phones might be more common,

I wouldn't buy anything overly new simply because they'll cost a fortune. I don't buy contract I buy outright. I'm not exactly in a position to drop £600+ on a phone at the moment. Too many other more important things to spend money on.

[libra89]

I wouldn't buy anything overly new simply because they'll cost a fortune. I don't buy contract I buy outright. I'm not exactly in a position to drop £600+ on a phone at the moment. Too many other more important things to spend money on.

Ah okay, I see. That helps a lot, actually. How about the HTC 10? I guess it's going on a year old. It is kind of tall though but the Nexus 5X is a bit shorter (I think). Hold on, what phone do you have again? I can't remember if you have the Z3 or the Z5.

[N_LaRUE]

Ah okay, I see. That helps a lot, actually. How about the HTC 10? I guess it's going on a year old. It is kind of tall though but the Nexus 5X is a bit shorter (I think). Hold on, what phone do you have again? I can't remember if you have the Z3 or the Z5.

I have the Z3 currently. I don't want anything too old either. :P Also I believe updates to the 5X and 5P are coming to an end.

[libra89]

I have the Z3 currently. I don't want anything too old either. :P Also I believe updates to the 5X and 5P are coming to an end.

Ohh okay, I see. Yeah those 2 have one more big update left. I don't know why I thought that you had the Z5.

[N_LaRUE]

Ohh okay, I see. Yeah those 2 have one more big update left. I don't know why I thought that you had the Z5.

So I'm in a bit of a dilemma. Not much to really work with...

[libra89]

So I'm in a bit of a dilemma. Not much to really work with...

Ahh, sadly :/ I kind of want to suggest the HTC One A9 but it's older than the 10, so nah.

[N_LaRUE]

Ahh, sadly :/ I kind of want to suggest the HTC One A9 but it's older than the 10, so nah.

I can wait a little longer. I've been waiting to see what Nokia will bring out but rumour is that their flagships will be pricey. Which is unfortunate.

[N_LaRUE]

I guess I could 'settle' for the Sony XZ for the time being. Not that it's much of a 'settle'. It's not bad for the price point I can get it at now.

[libra89]

I guess I could 'settle' for the Sony XZ for the time being. Not that it's much of a 'settle'. It's not bad for the price point I can get it at now.

If you have the option to try it out and return it if you don't like it, it might be just fine.

[N_LaRUE]

If you have the option to try it out and return it if you don't like it, it might be just fine.

As I mentioned I typically buy outright. I know it's a Sony phone so I know what to expect more or less.

[worldspy99]

As I mentioned I typically buy outright. I know it's a Sony phone so I know what to expect more or less.

I couldn't resist, so pardon me before hand.
With a Sony phone you are expected to pay more and get less :-)

[worldspy99]

My criteria is pretty simple.

Size - around 5"
Good battery
Good camera
Prefer waterproof (I live in the UK...)
As close to 'vanilla' Android as possible
Decent looking

After that I'm pretty easy

Closest is S7 with Nova Launcher - actually Samsung has pared back a lot of TouchWiz crap on Marshmallow. I use the Tab S2 and Pixel and the Tab S2 isn't bothersome at all.
Pixel would be a compromise on waterproofing otherwise solid all around.
I would not rule out Honor 8, just slap on Nova Launcher for stock Android feel - compromise is stock Android and waterproofing.
Sony XZ is an okay bargain but camera still has issues.

[libra89]

As I mentioned I typically buy outright. I know it's a Sony phone so I know what to expect more or less.

This is true but if Sonys are anything like Lumias, it's totally possible not to like one version but to like the other one. I didn't like the Z5 Compact much really, but I liked the X Compact better, just not camera wise.

[libra89]

Closest is S7 with Nova Launcher - actually Samsung has pared back a lot of TouchWiz crap on Marshmallow. I use the Tab S2 and Pixel and the Tab S2 isn't bothersome at all.
Pixel would be a compromise on waterproofing otherwise solid all around.
I would not rule out Honor 8, just slap on Nova Launcher for stock Android feel - compromise is stock Android and waterproofing.
Sony XZ is an okay bargain but camera still has issues.

That was fast, you are good! I agree about the Honor 8.

[N_LaRUE]

Closest is S7 with Nova Launcher - actually Samsung has pared back a lot of TouchWiz crap on Marshmallow. I use the Tab S2 and Pixel and the Tab S2 isn't bothersome at all.
Pixel would be a compromise on waterproofing otherwise solid all around.
I would not rule out Honor 8, just slap on Nova Launcher for stock Android feel - compromise is stock Android and waterproofing.
Sony XZ is an okay bargain but camera still has issues.

I can get the S7 for around the same price as the XZ... Still... I've never been a fan.
Not interested in the Honour 8 or the Pixel.

I'll just wait and see. Maybe the prices I heard for Nokia were wrong.

[worldspy99]

I can get the S7 for around the same price as the XZ... Still... I've never been a fan.
Not interested in the Honour 8 or the Pixel.

I'll just wait and see. Maybe the prices I heard for Nokia were wrong.

If your current phone is chugging along why not.
Except the Sony XZ (I did have the Z3C and Z3 briefly) I have used every single phone on the list and so far the Pixel has worked out really well.

[Laura Knotek]

If your current phone is chugging along why not.
Except the Sony XZ (I did have the Z3C and Z3 briefly) I have used every single phone on the list and so far the Pixel has worked out really well.

I'm thinking of possibly getting the Pixel XL once the new Pixel is released this fall, and the price drops on the older model.

[worldspy99]

I'm thinking of possibly getting the Pixel XL once the new Pixel is released this fall, and the price drops on the older model.

Nice, you will like it.

[mc_razza]

My criteria is pretty simple.

Size - around 5"
Good battery
Good camera
Prefer waterproof (I live in the UK...)
As close to 'vanilla' Android as possible
Decent looking

After that I'm pretty easy

Nexus 5X or 6P? AFAIK they're not waterproof but they're decent phones (although over a year old) and meet your requirements.

[N_LaRUE]

Nexus 5X or 6P? AFAIK they're not waterproof but they're decent phones (although over a year old) and meet your requirements.

I think I needed to put the added requirement of relatively new...

[N_LaRUE]

If your current phone is chugging along why not.
Except the Sony XZ (I did have the Z3C and Z3 briefly) I have used every single phone on the list and so far the Pixel has worked out really well.

The only issue I have with the Pixel is price. If it wasn't ridiculous expensive I'd get it even though I'm not a fan of the way it looks.