1. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I liked your post to acknowledge that I read your situation, not at all that I like the situation.

    You really do have a lot going on, so it's understandable. This sucks and I really hope that you guys would come to the best solution and get it all worked out. It's ridiculous that you are even put in this situation right now :(

    If I can ask, why Finland? It's not a place I commonly hear so I'm curious. Is there family there?
    My wife's EU citizenship is Finnish.

    Her grandparents and mother migrated to Australia in 1959. My wife was technically Finnish at birth but her citizenship lapsed but she was able to reclaim it.

    That's why Finland.

    We lived there for almost a year in 2010. It wasn't the best year but it was nice. It's a beautiful country and the people are a lot nicer than they seem.
    03-06-2017 07:27 AM
  2. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I liked your post to acknowledge that I read your situation, not at all that I like the situation.

    You really do have a lot going on, so it's understandable. This sucks and I really hope that you guys would come to the best solution and get it all worked out. It's ridiculous that you are even put in this situation right now :(

    If I can ask, why Finland? It's not a place I commonly hear so I'm curious. Is there family there?
    I should also mention that yes my wife has family there. She is the first to return from Australia to Finland and was able to reconnect with a large portion of the family.

    We would move back to Finland but we're unsure our ideas that we have for France would work there. Also the weather in France is a lot nicer... unless you like long dark winters and snow...
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    03-06-2017 07:35 AM
  3. worldspy99's Avatar
    Weather is just as lousy as the last trip to Chicago.
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    03-06-2017 07:47 AM
  4. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I should also point out that a lot of UK citizens are completely oblivious to the issues I've talked about.
    And a lot of US citizens are similarly oblivious...
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    03-06-2017 07:52 AM
  5. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    You really do have a lot going on, so it's understandable. This sucks and I really hope that you guys would come to the best solution and get it all worked out. It's ridiculous that you are even put in this situation right now :(
    Though our situation is frustrating there are other EU citizens in worst position than us. To the point of families being broken up. It's completely disgusting.
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    03-06-2017 07:53 AM
  6. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I just want to give an update on my life at the moment. I normally don't discuss much on here about it anymore but I thought I'd say a couple of things to give you an idea of what's going on.

    So you may have heard the UK voted to leave the EU. This has caused a few issues for many people already and may cause an issue for me as well. My status in the UK is dependant on my wife who is an EU citizen. Until we have an idea of what's happening with the negotiations my status is up in the air. I need to apply for permanent residency and that is based on my wife being the sponsor. I'm not sure how much they take my wage into consideration but there is a possibility that I may be rejected still due to other factors involved in the application process. My current visa expires next April, so I have time to see how things play out. Still it's an uneasy feeling.

    Our plans prior to this whole mess was to stay in the UK for the next 5/6 years and then move. However, with this change in status for the UK in the EU it's rather pointless to stick around. As it is, we're working to get things sorted in the next 1-2 years now. Plan currently is moving to the south of France but that will depend on how the elections pan out there as well. So plan B is Finland. Plan C is back to Australia...

    In any case as you can see it's quite disruptive and I'm not the only one going through this mess. Many EU citizens are having to do similar 'plans'.

    The worst part for me is the house purchase. Had I known this was going to happen I wouldn't have bothered and I'd have about £40,000 in my account now. With the devaluation of the £ and the possibility of the house prices dropping we're in a bit of a conundrum. Hope is that we can still stay in positive equity. If not we're screwed.

    To top it off, our remortgage is this year. So I need to have my permanent residency before that otherwise they may cancel our mortgage. Which wouldn't be good.

    So it's very messy as you can see.

    This is basically occupying my mind a lot. I have the potential at the moment to lose my status in the UK, which means losing my job and possibly my house. It's not the best place to be in.

    So I hope you excuse me if I seem a bit grumpy and put off sometimes.
    I'm working through my own issues here...Looking at moving, new job and a very lean Intermezzo period as I secure these things.

    One of the girls who works at the internship is here via the Dream Act so she is technically "undocumented". And it is stressing her the F out.

    There are a lot of people facing the issues you're facing. The good thing is you have the experience of moving and there are some options.

    Good luck with you figuring this out...I'm sure you'll find the balance you need.
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    03-06-2017 08:01 AM
  7. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I'm working through my own issues here...Looking at moving, new job and a very lean Intermezzo period as I secure these things.

    One of the girls who works at the internship is here via the Dream Act so she is technically "undocumented". And it is stressing her the F out.

    There are a lot of people facing the issues you're facing. The good thing is you have the experience of moving and there are some options.

    Good luck with you figuring this out...I'm sure you'll find the balance you need.
    I feel sorry for anyone going through this kind of mess.

    I do have experience moving countries however I never had to contend with being forced to move. That and the selling of a house, possibly at a loss.

    It's an overall cluster **** here. However, most UK citizens are completely and utterly blind to it. Especially those who voted to leave.
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    03-06-2017 08:06 AM
  8. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Sometimes pictures don't do things justice. This is the medieval citadel sitting on the hill top, La Cite, in Carcassonne, France. It's massive!

    dsc_0106_1.jpg
    03-06-2017 09:56 AM
  9. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I feel sorry for anyone going through this kind of mess.

    I do have experience moving countries however I never had to contend with being forced to move. That and the selling of a house, possibly at a loss.

    It's an overall cluster **** here. However, most UK citizens are completely and utterly blind to it. Especially those who voted to leave.
    It's a comedy of errors...A very tragic one that affects thousands of people in the UK, US and connected countries.

    I still need to get my US citizenship, not that I honestly want it but it is necessary for me to access certain things. The plan was to do this last summer but that got screwed over by my illness and the school past spring. I just hope that I can still do it as i know it'll be even more of an asspain to get thanks to the hairy asshat in the La Casa Blanca...
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    03-06-2017 10:52 AM
  10. worldspy99's Avatar
    It's a comedy of errors...A very tragic one that affects thousands of people in the UK, US and connected countries.

    I still need to get my US citizenship, not that I honestly want it but it is necessary for me to access certain things. The plan was to do this last summer but that got screwed over by my illness and the school past spring. I just hope that I can still do it as i know it'll be even more of an asspain to get thanks to the hairy asshat in the La Casa Blanca...
    The sooner you can apply the better. Hopefully you should be done in about 3 months from start to finish.
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    03-06-2017 11:02 AM
  11. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    The sooner you can apply the better. Hopefully you should be done in about 3 months from start to finish.
    I won't be able to apply until the fall, sadly. I just have to tough it out until i score employment.
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    03-06-2017 11:07 AM
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    Ain't this the truth...
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    03-06-2017 11:13 AM
  13. Rose640's Avatar
    Having a boring start of the week. Such was the whole last week as well. Nothing really interesting to write about.
    03-06-2017 03:02 PM
  14. Sport Driver's Avatar
    I have something interesting to write, I won a free trip to Geneva motor show 😀
    03-06-2017 03:03 PM
  15. Rose640's Avatar
    I have something interesting to write, I won a free trip to Geneva motor show
    Nice. Is it an old-timers thing or someting different?
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    03-06-2017 03:12 PM
  16. robert beadles's Avatar
    My car just got fixed yaaaaa! Now I need to add Bluetooth to it.
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    03-06-2017 04:01 PM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    So, if anyone is looking for a used Nextbit Robin, let me know. I'll post pictures up tomorrow. Not looking for an outrageous amount, but I need to let it go... Along with my Moto 360.
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    03-06-2017 04:24 PM
  18. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    You know, ever time i come on campus and see all these Sahib aged students i just SMH. I remember those days... I'm glad I didn't do college here in the US and did college with some restraint...Child support is very expensive and invasive in the US apparently...
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    03-06-2017 04:31 PM
  19. azcruz's Avatar
    Is Sahib not coming back?
    03-06-2017 04:33 PM
  20. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Still, it would have been nice to have gone to college here. May be I'd have gotten through it without any kids, maybe I'd have had two. Sometimes reflecting on the possibilities are interesting. But i went to college where i was ultimately supposed to go to college, and that's all that matters.

    Enjoy your youth, my college age WPC friends...You only get it once and being an adult is overrated (ask Rue and 99).
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    03-06-2017 04:34 PM
  21. worldspy99's Avatar
    Is Sahib not coming back?
    He is too busy with life, I guess.
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    03-06-2017 04:55 PM
  22. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Hey 99, did you see this? Gotta love Samuel L.'s response. As a first generation immigrant, I'm beyond offended, but not surprised...

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/g...icle-1.2990110
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    03-06-2017 05:00 PM
  23. worldspy99's Avatar
    Hey 99, did you see this? Gotta love Samuel L.'s response. As a first generation immigrant, I'm beyond offended, but not surprised...

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/g...icle-1.2990110
    I did but Ben is an even worse doofus than DT!
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    03-06-2017 05:02 PM
  24. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I did but Ben is an even worse doofus than DT!
    I think they're about the same. WTF was this!?
    03-06-2017 06:53 PM
  25. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    He is too busy with life, I guess.
    I wish him well. Hope things work out for him.
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    03-06-2017 06:54 PM
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