1. libra89's Avatar
    Bummer.
    Hope you are able to recover at least 80% of your money.
    Thank you, I hope the same. I don't expect much with the Pixel but I do expect my whole refund for the iPhone 7 though.

    I'm really creeped out by that since it worked like a phone and all just fine.
    05-06-2017 11:52 AM
  2. libra89's Avatar
    My brother in law wants an Android watch that is "multifunctional like the Apple Watch".

    My sister asked and I pointed her to Amazon and said that there were many kinds. Any decent suggestions? I don't know the price range they have in mind though but any suggestions MIA or anyone has are welcome.

    From my observation, he's not into fitness. Huawei Watch? I don't know what would work.
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    05-06-2017 12:58 PM
  3. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Ooh enjoy!
    OMG Quake Champions is good! I mean really good!
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    05-06-2017 03:03 PM
  4. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    My brother in law wants an Android watch that is "multifunctional like the Apple Watch".

    My sister asked and I pointed her to Amazon and said that there were many kinds. Any decent suggestions? I don't know the price range they have in mind though but any suggestions MIA or anyone has are welcome.

    From my observation, he's not into fitness. Huawei Watch? I don't know what would work.
    What's his budget like? What features does he plan to use? What phone does he have?
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    05-06-2017 03:07 PM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    What's his budget like? What features does he plan to use? What phone does he have?
    He has the Honor 8. I will ask my sister your other questions and get back to you.
    05-06-2017 04:08 PM
  6. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    He has the Honor 8. I will ask my sister your other questions and get back to you.
    Ok. Knee jerk reactions would be Samsung S2/S2 Classic (I think they updated these to work with non Samsung devices), LG Watch Style, Huawei watch, ZTE Quartz, Asus Zenwatch 3.

    I can elaborate more based in your answers.
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    05-06-2017 04:32 PM
  7. libra89's Avatar
    Ok. Knee jerk reactions would be Samsung S2/S2 Classic (I think they updated these to work with non Samsung devices), LG Watch Style, Huawei watch, ZTE Quartz, Asus Zenwatch 3.

    I can elaborate more based in your answers.
    My sister got back to me. Her fiance says no more than $200 and he doesn't want one that will carry an additional bill every month. He wants to be able to:
    -read texts from his phone (maybe make calls too),
    -use a timer,
    -be able to listen to music when exercising
    -calorie tracker(or tracking, i guess; I stand corrected on the fitness point)

    She will ask him what else he'll like but for now, those things would be ideal to have.

    Thank you for your help here!
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    05-06-2017 06:40 PM
  8. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    My sister got back to me. Her fiance says no more than $200 and he doesn't want one that will carry an additional bill every month. He wants to be able to:
    -read texts from his phone (maybe make calls too),
    -use a timer,
    -be able to listen to music when exercising
    -calorie tracker(or tracking, i guess; I stand corrected on the fitness point)

    She will ask him what else he'll like but for now, those things would be ideal to have.

    Thank you for your help here!
    Gut reactions: Samsung S2 or Moto 360 Sport if it's mostly for execerise related stuff and he doesn't care about a non removable strap.

    If he wants something to look nice and still work out in:

    Samsung S2 classic
    LG Watch Style (open box $155 most recent; last sale - $180)
    Huawei watch
    Moto 360 42mm
    Asus Zenwatch 3

    If he wants a square watch:

    Asus Zenwatch 2

    Huawei watch, Zenwatch 2 and 3 have speakers on it where you can make and take a call from the wrist without needing a SIM (done via Bluetooth). I think you can do that with the S2 and S2 classic, but more research is needed as those run on Tizen, not Android wear. All can store music file and or playlists to listen to via Bluetooth while exercising. The Watch Style and the Asus models lack heart rate monitoring stuff, but all can track calories and such.

    Because a watch is a personal thing, he should try to pop into a store (Best Buy/VZW/AT&T) to see a few of them. Best Buy used to let you be able to try them on, but not as much anymore - he can still ask.

    Keep in mind he's like going to have to buy online to get these under $200. All are really north of $200 but you can get these under $200 if he's willing to dig online a little.

    There's others he can try...the Ticwatch 2 isn't bad if he wants to go out of left field. He can also try the Huawei Fit watch too. He can also go Sony with the Smartband Talk (a little older, but also well under his budget). And he can try the Fitbit/Garmin route too if it's more exercise first.

    Most of this was said from the buying it new perspective...if he's willing to go the mint route, then all those choice can be found on ye olde Swappa...

    Hope this helps.
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    05-06-2017 07:11 PM
  9. libra89's Avatar
    Gut reactions: Samsung S2 or Moto 360 Sport if it's mostly for execerise related stuff and he doesn't care about a non removable strap.

    If he wants something to look nice and still work out in:

    Samsung S2 classic
    LG Watch Style (open box $155 most recent; last sale - $180)
    Huawei watch
    Moto 360 42mm
    Asus Zenwatch 3

    If he wants a square watch:

    Asus Zenwatch 2

    Huawei watch, Zenwatch 2 and 3 have speakers on it where you can make and take a call from the wrist without needing a SIM (done via Bluetooth). I think you can do that with the S2 and S2 classic, but more research is needed as those run on Tizen, not Android wear. All can store music file and or playlists to listen to via Bluetooth while exercising. The Watch Style and the Asus models lack heart rate monitoring stuff, but all can track calories and such.

    Because a watch is a personal thing, he should try to pop into a store (Best Buy/VZW/AT&T) to see a few of them. Best Buy used to let you be able to try them on, but not as much anymore - he can still ask.

    Keep in mind he's like going to have to buy online to get these under $200. All are really north of $200 but you can get these under $200 if he's willing to dig online a little.

    There's others he can try...the Ticwatch 2 isn't bad if he wants to go out of left field. He can also try the Huawei Fit watch too. He can also go Sony with the Smartband Talk (a little older, but also well under his budget). And he can try the Fitbit/Garmin route too if it's more exercise first.

    Most of this was said from the buying it new perspective...if he's willing to go the mint route, then all those choice can be found on ye olde Swappa...

    Hope this helps.
    Wow thank you! You're the true expert, I appreciate your time and knowledge. Thanks for the note about buying it new because I'm sure that they would like to do that.
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    05-06-2017 07:33 PM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Wow thank you! You're the true expert, I appreciate your time and knowledge. Thanks for the note about buying it new because I'm sure that they would like to do that.
    You're welcome. Let us know how he makes out.
    05-06-2017 09:14 PM
  11. libra89's Avatar
    You're welcome. Let us know how he makes out.
    Will do! She's currently venting to me but I will text her the list, along with your suggestions when I can get a word in about this.
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    05-06-2017 10:18 PM
  12. libra89's Avatar
    You're welcome. Let us know how he makes out.
    He's really excited and appreciative and she wanted me to tell you thanks as well for your help and suggestions.
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    05-06-2017 10:52 PM
  13. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    He's really excited and appreciative and she wanted me to tell you thanks as well for your help and suggestions.
    No problem. Hopefully he finds something he likes.
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    05-06-2017 10:53 PM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Boy, these watch bands can get expensive mighty quickly...
    Last edited by MSFTisMIA; 05-07-2017 at 04:33 PM.
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    05-07-2017 02:19 PM
  15. libra89's Avatar
    But, these watch bands can get expensive mighty quickly...
    I believe that, I'll see what they do.
    05-07-2017 04:02 PM
  16. libra89's Avatar
    Hearing about the France election and I thought of Rue.

    I hope he's okay.
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    05-07-2017 04:04 PM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I believe that, I'll see what they do.
    Yup. I've settled on three (the black nylon I'm using, this khaki color and a black band with white stitching). I saw some more colorful nylon ones but I'll pass for right now. The original black band that came with it is so beat up I may just harvest the quick release pins only and throw it out.
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    05-07-2017 04:08 PM
  18. libra89's Avatar
    Yup. I've settled on three (the black nylon I'm using, this khaki color and a black band with white stitching). I saw some more colorful nylon ones but I'll pass for right now. The original black band that came with it is so beat up I may just harvest the quick release pins only and throw it out.
    It sounds like you chose the best bands to me. I hope that you will enjoy them all.
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    05-07-2017 04:38 PM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Hearing about the France election and I thought of Rue.

    I hope he's okay.
    All of France is okay today.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
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    05-07-2017 05:20 PM
  20. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    It sounds like you chose the best bands to me. I hope that you will enjoy them all.
    I will. This black nylon one is pretty comfortable. I'm looking forward to this nice looking silicone one I have for the Huawei watch. I keep them all in this sleeve that allows you to fit 20 watch bands in it.
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    05-07-2017 05:23 PM
  21. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Hearing about the France election and I thought of Rue.

    I hope he's okay.
    I'm fine. :)

    I've been reading the thread but not saying anything. Not much to say really.

    As for the French election, I'm very relieved. Only one more election to really worry about but I don't see it as an issue either.

    So far the EU (not UK who really isn't EU) has rejected populist politicians and far right thinking.

    I can appreciate the appeal of the populist politician and the frustration of those who feel left behind. However, trying to believe we can go 'back to how it was before' doesn't solve the problems of today. Believing that our nationality, culture and values are static things creates a loss in those who yearn for a time they believe were more prosperous and cohesive. It's this belief that prevents new thinking and different ideas.

    This will continue to be an issue all over the world as the older generations keep hold of old fashioned idealism and tell of times when the world was, in their eyes, a better place. Of course, it's not only old people who feel like this but younger people being led to believe these things are important. That's not to say that identity isn't important to some extent but to close down because you don't like the rest of the world doesn't make the world a better place.

    In any case. I am happy with the result. Marcron has a lot of work ahead of him and hopefully he can be the 'centrist' candidate and initiate his ideas that will improve France overall. There is always the chance, however, where he could be just like Obama. Full of ideas but constantly blocked by opponents. I just hope that's not the case.

    So at this moment it's 3-0 for EU. Only Germany left to see if the far right has any grip in Western Europe (they don't if going by local elections is anything to go by). It may be that the UK will be all alone... hehehehehehehe....
    Last edited by N_LaRUE; 05-08-2017 at 06:39 AM.
    05-08-2017 03:56 AM
  22. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    So leaving politics....

    Windows 10S... thoughts? Read any of the articles? Believe the hype?
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    05-08-2017 04:38 AM
  23. azcruz's Avatar
    So leaving politics....

    Windows 10S... thoughts? Read any of the articles? Believe the hype?
    Pardon, what hype?
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    05-08-2017 04:53 AM
  24. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Pardon, what hype?
    That 10S is a gateway for UWP apps... that 10S is fantastic, etc...

    Windows 10 S breathes new life into UWP — and paves the way for 'Surface phone' | Windows Central

    Of course, what exactly does UWP mean?

    Universal Windows Platform or Universal Windows Package? They can't seem to figure that one out anymore.

    I have a tendency to be pessimistic about things... Wrapping a Win32 package for Store sounds like a good idea except that I can't seem to see many companies willing to do this at the loss of about 33% to MS.

    There's some really well informed comments at that article and I'm not referring to the article itself.
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    05-08-2017 06:31 AM
  25. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    That 10S is a gateway for UWP apps... that 10S is fantastic, etc...

    Windows 10 S breathes new life into UWP — and paves the way for 'Surface phone' | Windows Central

    Of course, what exactly does UWP mean?

    Universal Windows Platform or Universal Windows Package? They can't seem to figure that one out anymore.

    I have a tendency to be pessimistic about things... Wrapping a Win32 package for Store sounds like a good idea except that I can't seem to see many companies willing to do this at the loss of about 33% to MS.

    There's some really well informed comments at that article and I'm not referring to the article itself.
    *Cough* MSFT essentially rebranded Windows RT *Cough*
    05-08-2017 07:53 AM
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