1. Rose640's Avatar
    So here are my thoughts on the killing of the headphone jack issue.

    Simply put, I'd like a USB-C audio standard. I don't mind OEMs making proprietary headphones as along as there are traditional headphone makers providing universal options. I'd rather the DAC in the headphone with the audio codec support in the phone. Now, there's so much stuff using 3.5mm jacks that won't fully go away. I was never one of those wall huggers who needed to charge their phone and listen to music simultaneously.

    As long as I get quality audio, it doesn't matter if it is via Bluetooth, USB-C or 3.5mm jack.
    They also said the audio quality is much better with the USB.
    06-06-2017 04:17 PM
  2. worldspy99's Avatar
    I wish, but it's still on the same update it came with. Nothing appears to be different.
    Bummer.
    Well after my third trip to the Apple Store on my iPhone 7 they agreed to replace the SIM card but not the phone. Although they do have detailed notes, so if I have a problem again, I am going to request them to replace the phone. For something bought on launch day for >$800 this is pretty pathetic.

    I got mad about my Pixel and Google overnighted me a phone!
    06-06-2017 04:24 PM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Bummer.
    Well after my third trip to the Apple Store on my iPhone 7 they agreed to replace the SIM card but not the phone. Although they do have detailed notes, so if I have a problem again, I am going to request them to replace the phone. For something bought on launch day for >$800 this is pretty pathetic.

    I got mad about my Pixel and Google overnighted me a phone!
    Google does it a bit better...
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    06-06-2017 04:39 PM
  4. worldspy99's Avatar
    I am down to the S8 and the Pixel. Debating which one to keep. Have the Gear VR and Daydream as well.
    Also thinking of starting to use my LG G Watch again.

    On a separate note, I am thoroughly enjoying using Android Pay at various locations.
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    06-06-2017 04:54 PM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    Bummer.
    Well after my third trip to the Apple Store on my iPhone 7 they agreed to replace the SIM card but not the phone. Although they do have detailed notes, so if I have a problem again, I am going to request them to replace the phone. For something bought on launch day for >$800 this is pretty pathetic.

    I got mad about my Pixel and Google overnighted me a phone!
    Wow that's terrible.
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    06-06-2017 04:59 PM
  6. azcruz's Avatar
    One of our largest bank was hacked today, depositors lost money, many have negative balances.

    The bank's press release is "system error."
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    06-06-2017 07:23 PM
  7. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Isn’t always “system error?” A bank admitting to being hacked will never happen.
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    06-06-2017 07:34 PM
  8. libra89's Avatar
    I am down to the S8 and the Pixel. Debating which one to keep. Have the Gear VR and Daydream as well.
    Also thinking of starting to use my LG G Watch again.

    On a separate note, I am thoroughly enjoying using Android Pay at various locations.
    I think you should go for the Pixel just because you can probably get an S8 a bit easier over trying to find another blue Pixel.
    06-06-2017 07:39 PM
  9. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    One of our largest bank was hacked today, depositors lost money, many have negative balances.

    The bank's press release is "system error."
    Sorry to hear that happened. Some people may take pitch forks to the bank in anger.
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    06-06-2017 07:58 PM
  10. libra89's Avatar
    One of our largest bank was hacked today, depositors lost money, many have negative balances.

    The bank's press release is "system error."
    Wow that sounds terrible. I'm sorry.
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    06-06-2017 08:46 PM
  11. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I am down to the S8 and the Pixel. Debating which one to keep. Have the Gear VR and Daydream as well.
    Also thinking of starting to use my LG G Watch again.

    On a separate note, I am thoroughly enjoying using Android Pay at various locations.
    Good luck there. I'm sure you'll sell both in due time. What's most surprising is that you still have that G Watch...
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    06-06-2017 08:59 PM
  12. libra89's Avatar
    Back on the original iPhone 7 I have/had.

    On the flip side, not having a rose gold iPhone means that I can find cases that are mint colored or have mint. The combo is possible with the rose gold but I haven't found anything that looks nice with that color for the 7. Additionally, I just need to get rid of two phones now \o/
    06-06-2017 09:44 PM
  13. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Back on the original iPhone 7 I have/had.

    On the flip side, not having a rose gold iPhone means that I can find cases that are mint colored or have mint. The combo is possible with the rose gold but I haven't found anything that looks nice with that color for the 7. Additionally, I just need to get rid of two phones now \o/
    #iPhonecaseproblems
    06-06-2017 10:07 PM
  14. libra89's Avatar
    Haha!
    What a problem to have though
    06-06-2017 10:26 PM
  15. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Haha!
    What a problem to have though
    Indeed.
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    06-06-2017 11:12 PM
  16. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Still satsified with my Mi Note 2 + XL. The tester in my would have loved to test drove and return things like the U Ultra, Moto Z and a few others...but I'm good.
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    06-06-2017 11:13 PM
  17. libra89's Avatar
    Still satsified with my Mi Note 2 + XL. The tester in my would have loved to test drove and return things like the U Ultra, Moto Z and a few others...but I'm good.
    I still say that you have serious willpower in holding out.

    Seriously though, that's awesome that you're still pleased with the combo.
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    06-06-2017 11:23 PM
  18. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I still say that you have serious willpower in holding out.

    Seriously though, that's awesome that you're still pleased with the combo.
    Being low on cash helps boost willpower immensely...but if I had the money, I'd still hold out. Nothing out there is screaming to replace these two, really.
    06-06-2017 11:35 PM
  19. mc_razza's Avatar
    My mum got an email this morning informing her that Skype on WP8.1 will no longer work from July 1st. So now I'm upgrading her 640 XL to W10M. I'm kind of reluctant based on my previous experiences. But the main reason is that Lumia devices - outside of the 550, 650 and 950/XL - run better on WP8.1. Now I'm aware that anecdotally the WP8.1 Lumias have improved performance on W10M post-CU so I'll just have to wait and see.
    All done. It took about 3-4 hours to get it right up to date.

    Overall, performance has improved since AU. In some areas I'm surprised to say it's nice and snappy but in other areas it's still frustratingly slow. And I'm finding that I have to press buttons and links two, three or more times before it registers. The UI, although improved, still has its inconsistencies. For example, if I tap on the hamburger menu of an app (in this instance the News app), the grey sidebar melts into the same grey of the app's background. There is no clear delineation between the menu and rest of the app. Granted I haven't tried apps in Light Mode so maybe it's different. As for battery life I'm only 12 hours in so I can't properly gauge it in W10M. Let's wait and see if it's improved since AU.

    Anyway, that's that. My mum can continue to use Skype on her 640 XL from July 1st. lol

    Will I make the jump on my 640 and 735? No. I got my eyes on eBay for a cheap 550, 650 or even a 532 so I can tinker around with W10M.
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    06-07-2017 12:38 AM
  20. worldspy99's Avatar
    Good luck there. I'm sure you'll sell both in due time. What's most surprising is that you still have that G Watch...
    I thought about it. Then I remembered how I kept going back to the Nexus 5. So I think I am probably going to stay put with the Pixel. However, if that is the course of action, then I need to find one with the higher storage capacity.
    06-07-2017 01:25 AM
  21. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    They also said the audio quality is much better with the USB.
    The main reason they say that is because the audio conversion is done local to the speaker rather than in the phone.

    There's less chance of losses (though I think that's a silly argument). You also get 'powered' headphones due to them being USB so the DAC can be designed optimally to provide the best possible sound. So long as you have good quality parts you should 'technically' have better sound.

    That's the theory anyway.

    I wonder how long it will be before see a dual USB C phone...
    Last edited by N_LaRUE; 06-07-2017 at 04:28 AM.
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    06-07-2017 04:17 AM
  22. libra89's Avatar
    It's ridiculous how software versions can make a difference in battery life.
    The iPhone I am returning was on 10.1.1 and it barely lost anything in standby.

    This one on the other hand is losing it noticeably on 10.2.1. I guess nevermind a more expensive case because the battery pack is the only savior. From what I'm hearing, the current version isn't any better.
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    06-07-2017 06:39 AM
  23. Rose640's Avatar
    All done. It took about 3-4 hours to get it right up to date.

    Overall, performance has improved since AU. In some areas I'm surprised to say it's nice and snappy but in other areas it's still frustratingly slow. And I'm finding that I have to press buttons and links two, three or more times before it registers. The UI, although improved, still has its inconsistencies. For example, if I tap on the hamburger menu of an app (in this instance the News app), the grey sidebar melts into the same grey of the app's background. There is no clear delineation between the menu and rest of the app. Granted I haven't tried apps in Light Mode so maybe it's different. As for battery life I'm only 12 hours in so I can't properly gauge it in W10M. Let's wait and see if it's improved since AU.

    Anyway, that's that. My mum can continue to use Skype on her 640 XL from July 1st. lol

    Will I make the jump on my 640 and 735? No. I got my eyes on eBay for a cheap 550, 650 or even a 532 so I can tinker around with W10M.
    Battery life went downhill with my L640. Don't expect anything better.
    How's Edge doing? I wonder how that one didn't manage to get you frustrated already.
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    06-07-2017 06:51 AM
  24. Rose640's Avatar
    The main reason they say that is because the audio conversion is done local to the speaker rather than in the phone.

    There's less chance of losses (though I think that's a silly argument). You also get 'powered' headphones due to them being USB so the DAC can be designed optimally to provide the best possible sound. So long as you have good quality parts you should 'technically' have better sound.

    That's the theory anyway.

    I wonder how long it will be before see a dual USB C phone...
    But again, it all comes down to tiny nuanses. Question is, can one really spot the difference?
    06-07-2017 06:53 AM
  25. Rose640's Avatar
    The main reason they say that is because the audio conversion is done local to the speaker rather than in the phone.

    There's less chance of losses (though I think that's a silly argument). You also get 'powered' headphones due to them being USB so the DAC can be designed optimally to provide the best possible sound. So long as you have good quality parts you should 'technically' have better sound.

    That's the theory anyway.

    I wonder how long it will be before see a dual USB C phone...
    Oh, did not see that last line. That's interesting. Never thought of it. What I read somewhere is that they're trying to improve the wireless charging, so that you won't be needing a USB port to charge your phone anymore. That way you'd have a an unoccupied port to use.

    But again, I can bet on this, Apple's going to come with a bit better wireless charging, ditch all the ports and make everything wireless. And of course **** so many people off once again.
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    06-07-2017 06:57 AM
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