1. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I just don't think of things that way, which is probably why it is amusing for you to imply things.

    If the shoe fits, and it does.
    I'm just having a little fun with you. And I don't know what WAY you think I'm implying here...
    06-11-2017 10:10 PM
  2. libra89's Avatar
    I turn mine on to periodically update it and I'm reminded why it's such a love hate relationship. Still looking forward to getting up and running to shoot some pictures in the summer.
    Props to you for remembering to do that. I have thought about it, but I still feel that my 950 is wasted on me. Once I have one phone with one and it has the apps, I'm too lazy to remember the other one.
    06-11-2017 10:18 PM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Libra, check your PM when you get a chance.
    06-11-2017 10:19 PM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    I'm just having a little fun with you. And I don't know what WAY you think I'm implying here...
    I know, but I always realize after the fact.
    I don't believe that
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    06-11-2017 10:19 PM
  5. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Props to you for remembering to do that. I have thought about it, but I still feel that my 950 is wasted on me. Once I have one phone with one and it has the apps, I'm too lazy to remember the other one.
    I mean, I like the phone. Oddly enough, I wanted the 950 for something more pocketable that I know I'd carry around more and use. Maybe one day I'll take it out and use it as a daily driver.
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    06-11-2017 10:20 PM
  6. libra89's Avatar
    I mean, I like the phone. Oddly enough, I wanted the 950 for something more pocketable that I know I'd carry around more and use. Maybe one day I'll take it out and use it as a daily driver.
    That could be an interesting experience or not a pleasant one. I think I might like the 950 better if battery life was better even though I know it's the processor's fault. I have heard about a battery pack for the 950 (I think only that one though, not the XL) that brings better battery life.

    At the same time, I prefer the phones that feel smaller and aren't tall like the 650. Like that's so nice to me even though the camera is just okay for what it is. I probably wouldn't really use it anyway. lol
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    06-11-2017 10:28 PM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm always amazed at the contradictory stance the US takes on sex. It's like we're OK with all of the sexual innuendo but talking about it in a healthy relationships + positive self image way is still so taboo.

    A good example of this is the Piers Morgan v Amber Rose Twitter exchange. Now, Amber Rose is a huge S-L-U-T Walk advocate (Google that) and Piers decided to put his sausage into something that it doesn't belong in. I do agree with Amber about the double standard that exists with her and Adam Levine doing the same picture for the same reasons for different causes and yet hers gets roasted while his gets a pass.

    There was this amazing feminist protest I'd love to link her in Argentina recently...but it's visually explicit. But once you get past the naked stuff and listen to the message, it is so powerful. It's just another way we focus on the flesh and look past the humanity of people.
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    06-11-2017 10:28 PM
  8. libra89's Avatar
    I'm always amazed at the contradictory stance the US takes on sex. It's like we're OK with all of the sexual innuendo but talking about it in a healthy relationships + positive self image way is still so taboo.

    A good example of this is the Piers Morgan v Amber Rose Twitter exchange. Now, Amber Rose is a huge S-L-U-T Walk advocate (Google that) and Piers decided to put his sausage into something that it doesn't belong in. I do agree with Amber about the double standard that exists with her and Adam Levine doing the same picture for the same reasons for different causes and yet hers gets roasted while his gets a pass.

    There was this amazing feminist protest I'd love to link her in Argentina recently...but it's visually explicit. But once you get past the naked stuff and listen to the message, it is so powerful. It's just another way we focus on the flesh and look past the humanity of people.
    I googled this thing between the two of them, and I agree with you. The contradictory stance really doesn't make sense and I think in some people's cases, it can cause issues with individuals and what they think is normal in relationships.
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    06-11-2017 10:36 PM
  9. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I googled this thing between the two of them, and I agree with you. The contradictory stance really doesn't make sense and I think in some people's cases, it can cause issues with individuals and what they think is normal in relationships.
    My issue was if they has issues with sex in one area, I can understand...but all topics and uses about sex (from woman exercising control over her sexuality to preferred types of sex, to sex and relationships, etc) there is this "we don't speak about it" crap.

    Which leads to such misinformation that can have really bad outcomes in certain contexts.
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    06-11-2017 10:47 PM
  10. libra89's Avatar
    My issue was if they has issues with sex in one area, I can understand...but all topics and uses about sex (from woman exercising control over her sexuality to preferred types of sex, to sex and relationships, etc) there is this "we don't speak about it" crap.

    Which leads to such misinformation that can have really bad outcomes in certain contexts.
    Exactly. It's very sad.
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    06-11-2017 10:52 PM
  11. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    My issue was if they has issues with sex in one area, I can understand...but all topics and uses about sex (from woman exercising control over her sexuality to preferred types of sex, to sex and relationships, etc) there is this "we don't speak about it" crap.

    Which leads to such misinformation that can have really bad outcomes in certain contexts.
    Sex and the USA... they just can't seem to let go of their Puritanical roots. In a way being as prudish as the country is (yes that's a general statement) I believe it's actually more harmful rather than helpful.

    The tight lipped idea of not speaking about sex and sexuality creates all sorts of issues mentally. The far right religious wingnuts have a lot to answer for if you ask me and lets be clear, this is where all this stems from.
    06-12-2017 05:58 AM
  12. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    So, currently I'm waiting for the meltdown of our PM May. I'm sure it's coming, just a matter of when.
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    06-12-2017 05:59 AM
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    Sex and the USA... they just can't seem to let go of their Puritanical roots. In a way being as prudish as the country is (yes that's a general statement) I believe it's actually more harmful rather than helpful.

    The tight lipped idea of not speaking about sex and sexuality creates all sorts of issues mentally. The far right religious wingnuts have a lot to answer for if you ask me and lets be clear, this is where all this stems from.
    Don't try to engage in an adult conversation with these people. They claim to be holier than thou yet are always getting busted in some sex scandal. Suppressing basic human instinct is unnatural and, on their own turf, goes against the Bible. Doesn't Genesis mention Adam and Eve's first instruction to be fruitful and multiply?
    06-12-2017 07:06 AM
  14. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Don't try to engage in an adult conversation with these people. They claim to be holier than thou yet are always getting busted in some sex scandal. Suppressing basic human instinct is unnatural and, on their own turf, goes against the Bible. Doesn't Genesis mention Adam and Eve's first instruction to be fruitful and multiply?
    No that was for the other animals. The only thing 'god' says in relation to children is that Eve will suffer the pains of child birth more.

    If I were to argue with a bible thumper I'd have to know which bible they were using first... :P

    As for them being involved in sex scandals... not overly surprising. Those who try to oppress are usually the ones who indulge more. In other words, good for me, bad for you, do as I say, not as I do, etc ... such is those in power.

    There is a British comedian who did a long stint in the US. He made this comment about sex education in the US.

    Abstinence only sex education is a lie. It's tells you the safest sex is not having sex. That's like saying the safest form of travel is staying at home.
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    06-12-2017 07:25 AM
  15. libra89's Avatar
    Sex and the USA... they just can't seem to let go of their Puritanical roots. In a way being as prudish as the country is (yes that's a general statement) I believe it's actually more harmful rather than helpful.

    The tight lipped idea of not speaking about sex and sexuality creates all sorts of issues mentally. The far right religious wingnuts have a lot to answer for if you ask me and lets be clear, this is where all this stems from.
    You're right though, I was trying to remember the roots and there it is. History major fail. LOL
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    06-12-2017 07:33 AM
  16. libra89's Avatar
    No that was for the other animals. The only thing 'god' says in relation to children is that Eve will suffer the pains of child birth more.

    If I were to argue with a bible thumper I'd have to know which bible they were using first... :P

    As for them being involved in sex scandals... not overly surprising. Those who try to oppress are usually the ones who indulge more. In other words, good for me, bad for you, do as I say, not as I do, etc ... such is those in power.

    There is a British comedian who did a long stint in the US. He made this comment about sex education in the US.

    Abstinence only sex education is a lie. It's tells you the safest sex is not having sex. That's like saying the safest form of travel is staying at home.
    Ooh I never thought of it that way. That's an excellent analogy!

    I have always been taught that in the church and heard that over and over. It wasn't hard for me but that's been difficult for a good amount of people because of those "rules".
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    06-12-2017 07:36 AM
  17. libra89's Avatar
    So, currently I'm waiting for the meltdown of our PM May. I'm sure it's coming, just a matter of when.
    From what I have been hearing, this is just nuts. She's being a hard head.
    06-12-2017 07:43 AM
  18. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Ooh I never thought of it that way. That's an excellent analogy!

    I have always been taught that in the church and heard that over and over. It wasn't hard for me but that's been difficult for a good amount of people because of those "rules".
    Trying to persuade young people to go against their natural instinct is difficult. It's one of the reasons why in the past young people got married off at a fairly early age.

    Real sex education is important, now more than ever. Unfortunately, especially in the US, it's like banging your head against a steel clad wall. People think saying 'don't do it because god says it's bad' is a reason not to tell students the truth.

    That's because a lot of religious people think sex is for only for one thing. Which if we were not highly evolved animals, would be true. However, that's simply not the case. Sex feels good as a way of encouraging us to have it. It's part of evolution.
    06-12-2017 07:57 AM
  19. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    You're right though, I was trying to remember the roots and there it is. History major fail. LOL
    Though I find it hysterically funny, I also find it sad. Of course, the US isn't the only country with hardline religious fundamentalist... there's also places like Saudi Arabia....
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    06-12-2017 07:58 AM
  20. libra89's Avatar
    Trying to persuade young people to go against their natural instinct is difficult. It's one of the reasons why in the past young people got married off at a fairly early age.

    Real sex education is important, now more than ever. Unfortunately, especially in the US, it's like banging your head against a steel clad wall. People think saying 'don't do it because god says it's bad' is a reason not to tell students the truth.

    That's because a lot of religious people think sex is for only for one thing. Which if we were not highly evolved animals, would be true. However, that's simply not the case. Sex feels good as a way of encouraging us to have it. It's part of evolution.
    That's a fair point and I can agree with that. I have heard recent stories in parts of the US where people got married really young just so that they can have it, which is sad.

    I agree with you on the point of true sex education too, as well. In my opinion, they should also educate about different kinds of sexuality because it's easy to think something is wrong with you if you're not what is considered "normal". Been there, done that. I could have saved myself some time if I knew what I learned later.
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    06-12-2017 08:16 AM
  21. libra89's Avatar
    My other tester SE is finally unlocked so I could sell it now! I just need to test it tonight (I got a text saying that it has been unlocked). I'm debating what phone I should put in that sim in now.

    Should I put it in my 650 or if I should put it in my original SE is the question.

    Also on that note, I will be selling the 950, so I can go down to three phones. If I decide to go crazy, I can make it two haha.
    06-12-2017 08:30 AM
  22. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    That's a fair point and I can agree with that. I have heard recent stories in parts of the US where people got married really young just so that they can have it, which is sad.

    I agree with you on the point of true sex education too, as well. In my opinion, they should also educate about different kinds of sexuality because it's easy to think something is wrong with you if you're not what is considered "normal". Been there, done that. I could have saved myself some time if I knew what I learned later.
    Oh I agree totally with that statement. Problem as always is that highly religious people get 'offended' by that.

    If we stick to a scientific view of the world instead of the irrational one that is created by religion then we'd realise that biology is messy, there's no such thing as 'normal' and that everyone is unique and special.

    But when your thinking is stuck in a 2000 year old book and you believe in strict adherence (so long as it doesn't interfere with your life) then this is what happens. You have people forcing ideas on others of what's 'normal'.
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    06-12-2017 08:42 AM
  23. libra89's Avatar
    Oh I agree totally with that statement. Problem as always is that highly religious people get 'offended' by that.

    If we stick to a scientific view of the world instead of the irrational one that is created by religion then we'd realise that biology is messy, there's no such thing as 'normal' and that everyone is unique and special.

    But when your thinking is stuck in a 2000 year old book and you believe in strict adherence (so long as it doesn't interfere with your life) then this is what happens. You have people forcing ideas on others of what's 'normal'.
    I'll be honest with you. I identify as a Christian but I try to be more open-minded. I don't believe in being a judge of what people do unless it is harmful to another human being. I'm not one to debate my beliefs but I do agree strongly with your point about religion forcing ideas, which leaves us with broken and hurt people. I have seen it for myself, and because of it, there are some things that I could never tell my parents about myself.

    Thankfully, I have support in my siblings so I'm not bothered. In an ideal world, I would tell them and they wouldn't be trying to "shift" me, they would just accept.
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    06-12-2017 10:01 AM
  24. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I'll be honest with you. I identify as a Christian but I try to be more open-minded. I don't believe in being a judge of what people do unless it is harmful to another human being.
    That's a very humanistic view of things and far as I'm concerned a good one. :)

    I'm not one to debate my beliefs but I do agree strongly with your point about religion forcing ideas, which leaves us with broken and hurt people.
    To be clear I'm not trying to debate religion. It's just seems to be at the heart of any issue regarding sex or gender. Any blocks when it comes to anything regarding sex education, gender, sexual health, etc, especially woman's health, it's always always religious.

    I have seen it for myself, and because of it, there are some things that I could never tell my parents about myself.Thankfully, I have support in my siblings so I'm not bothered. In an ideal world, I would tell them and they wouldn't be trying to "shift" me, they would just accept.
    I would guess what you're getting at but I'll leave it to you to say it. :) At least you have the support of your siblings and I assume others. As far as I'm concerned I accept people as they are. :)
    06-12-2017 10:17 AM
  25. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm using the XL for the day as my daily driver. I'm happy to report the battery life is as trashy as I remember. Standby has slightly improved, so I should be excited for that...but I barely have any apps on this thing and after going to an appointment, I left with 95% and with in 3 hours I'm down to 65%.
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    06-12-2017 10:22 AM
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