1. Rose640's Avatar
    I'm sure the US will congratulate them as well... :P

    Seriously, certain states in the US have been trying for decades to get evolution out of the schools and this may give them hope. Sad really.

    I've been saying for some time that science text books need to be written differently, especially biology ones. Evolution is THE main aspect of biology. Nothing makes sense in biology without it. Kids should be learning about it as soon as they start learning anything to do with biology. It's not that difficult of a concept.

    In the US it doesn't get taught until the final year and usually in it's own chapter. Typically what happens is that it doesn't get taught at all. Usually due to pressure from kids and their parents.

    This is why the text books need to change.

    In any case. I've been thinking with this hard shift to the right in some countries, it's not surprising that things like this will happen. Hopefully it's only for a short period of time but that will depend on prosperity... I've notice ignorance thrives when times are bad.
    Same thing here, if I remember correctly since, it was a long time ago, evolution is teached in 9th grade, which is the last elementary grade.

    I've been raised in a so-so religious family, and was never told the evolution was a fake. I used to spend hours watching documentaries, and so I was familiar with the theory way before it was brought to us in the school. So when the teacher said :"Kids, it's up to you to choose whether you'll accept this or not, it's my job to teach, the rest is on you". And I was like, wtf? I get to choose if I believe something that's teached in school, as a science?

    I was honestly surprised.

    If ignorance takes over, then we're doomed. On one side we've got a dude who's making badass electrical vehicles, launching used rockets into sky and making a freaking Hyperloop under LA, while on the other there's this orange fellow.
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    06-26-2017 07:06 AM
  2. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Same thing here, if I remember correctly since, it was a long time ago, evolution is teached in 9th grade, which is the last elementary grade.

    I've been raised in a so-so religious family, and was never told the evolution was a fake. I used to spend hours watching documentaries, and so I was familiar with the theory way before it was brought to us in the school. So when the teacher said :"Kids, it's up to you to choose whether you'll accept this or not, it's my job to teach, the rest is on you". And I was like, wtf? I get to choose if I believe something that's teached in school, as a science?

    I was honestly surprised.

    If ignorance takes over, then we're doomed. On one side we've got a dude who's making badass electrical vehicles, launching used rockets into sky and making a freaking Hyperloop under LA, while on the other there's this orange fellow.
    I was referring to the high school. As prior to college or university. There's many students who go to these institutions and take biology and get shocked that evolution is the main topic of discussion.

    Not to beat up religion, but it's been the number one source for any hindrance in our scientific study. Everything from Galileo to Darwin. Religion holds us back, because we need 'mystery' or whatever else they think...

    The bigger issue with denying evolution is the that it relies on all the other sciences to hold up it's proofs. If you start saying that evolution is wrong, that means, astrophysics is wrong, physics is wrong, geological science is wrong, chemistry is wrong, you get my point.

    Of course, evolution on it's own is a real science. It's used in medicine mostly at the moment but just like any other science it has it's own predictions and theories within it. Not to mention it's tested as well. Evolution basically gets tested hundreds of times daily. It still holds up.

    But the fundamentalists don't like it because it says something about the world they don't like. Something about life they don't like. Well, that's too bad really, because it's real and true.
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    06-26-2017 07:30 AM
  3. raycpl's Avatar
    It's been hot and humid here. The walk in the hills was great though.

    Ended the day by the beach for some breath taking atmosphere.

    (Tanjung Aru beach, Kota Kinabalu)









    Took some shots in portrait mode, but can't seem to upload using WC app

    ...!!
    06-26-2017 07:31 AM
  4. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    It's been hot and humid here. The walk in the hills was great though.

    Ended the day by the beach for some breath taking atmosphere.

    (Tanjung Aru beach, Kota Kinabalu)

    http://i.imgur.com/fAPjcdH.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/3OmX9cc.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/xUpZXD7.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/UvkTJze.jpg

    Took some shots in portrait mode, but can't seem to upload using WC app

    ...!!
    Looks good. Were these shot on the S8?
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    06-26-2017 07:45 AM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    Seems like you got the worse end of it. Like you, I don't appreciate shallow people, and wouldn't feel comfortable around one at all.
    Yeah this part sucks. I'm hoping that it will go by fast.
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    06-26-2017 07:50 AM
  6. libra89's Avatar
    It feels good to finally come to work with just one phone after a month and some of always having two phones.
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    06-26-2017 07:51 AM
  7. raycpl's Avatar
    Looks good. Were these shot on the S8?
    All shot on 950XL, non-HDR

    ...!!
    06-26-2017 08:06 AM
  8. meattray's Avatar
    it's been cool here the last week or so. They're predicting higher than usual temperatures this summer but so far it has been a little cool. Hoping to soak up some sun soon.
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    06-26-2017 08:14 AM
  9. worldspy99's Avatar
    41°C? Damn. So far it 'only' reached 36°.
    Actually it climbed to 108 F or 42C.
    Today it's gonna be a lot cooler.
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    06-26-2017 08:30 AM
  10. worldspy99's Avatar
    Crazy three days at work this week starting today.
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    06-26-2017 08:33 AM
  11. libra89's Avatar
    It's been hot and humid here. The walk in the hills was great though.

    Ended the day by the beach for some breath taking atmosphere.

    (Tanjung Aru beach, Kota Kinabalu)

    http://i.imgur.com/fAPjcdH.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/3OmX9cc.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/xUpZXD7.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/UvkTJze.jpg

    Took some shots in portrait mode, but can't seem to upload using WC app

    ...!!
    Amazing pictures!
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    06-26-2017 08:54 AM
  12. Rose640's Avatar
    I was referring to the high school. As prior to college or university. There's many students who go to these institutions and take biology and get shocked that evolution is the main topic of discussion.

    Not to beat up religion, but it's been the number one source for any hindrance in our scientific study. Everything from Galileo to Darwin. Religion holds us back, because we need 'mystery' or whatever else they think...

    The bigger issue with denying evolution is the that it relies on all the other sciences to hold up it's proofs. If you start saying that evolution is wrong, that means, astrophysics is wrong, physics is wrong, geological science is wrong, chemistry is wrong, you get my point.

    Of course, evolution on it's own is a real science. It's used in medicine mostly at the moment but just like any other science it has it's own predictions and theories within it. Not to mention it's tested as well. Evolution basically gets tested hundreds of times daily. It still holds up.

    But the fundamentalists don't like it because it says something about the world they don't like. Something about life they don't like. Well, that's too bad really, because it's real and true.
    I agree. But what I don't get is why would they have trouble believing in both god and evolution. Evolution doesn't contradict the teaching that god created a man, it just goes a bit further to explain - one way of seeing it if you already believe in god.
    06-26-2017 09:11 AM
  13. Rose640's Avatar
    It's been hot and humid here. The walk in the hills was great though.

    Ended the day by the beach for some breath taking atmosphere.

    (Tanjung Aru beach, Kota Kinabalu)

    http://i.imgur.com/fAPjcdH.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/3OmX9cc.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/xUpZXD7.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/UvkTJze.jpg

    Took some shots in portrait mode, but can't seem to upload using WC app

    ...!!
    Super great shots! Like they've been staged and taken by a pro.
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    06-26-2017 09:12 AM
  14. Rose640's Avatar
    Yeah this part sucks. I'm hoping that it will go by fast.
    I wish you luck.
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    06-26-2017 09:13 AM
  15. Rose640's Avatar
    Actually it climbed to 108 F or 42C.
    Today it's gonna be a lot cooler.
    That's just crazy. I remember one year, like ten years ago or so, the temperatures got to almost 50°C. That was the highest temperature I've ever experienced, and it was suffering.

    I prefer 26, to max 28. Can't get better than that.
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    06-26-2017 09:15 AM
  16. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I agree. But what I don't get is why would they have trouble believing in both god and evolution. Evolution doesn't contradict the teaching that god created a man, it just goes a bit further to explain - one way of seeing it if you already believe in god.
    I purely scientific view of evolution excludes god completely. There's no need for one, for starters. Actually, all 'real' science excludes 'god', whichever you like to believe in.

    However, most get stuck on the idea that we're apes and that we had a common ancestor with other apes, monkey's... everything, going back about 4 billion years... that's evolution.

    You are a distant relative of a mushroom, banana, ant, tree, grass, bacteria... etc..

    That seems to upset the fundamentalist. Especially those that are 'young earth' creationists who believe the earth is 6-10 thousand years old. They're completely against science, unless it helps them live (well some believe in healing...), then it's ok, just don't mention that other 'stuff'...
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    06-26-2017 09:20 AM
  17. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    So the UK's proposal for EU citizens sucks... why am I not surprised??
    06-26-2017 09:36 AM
  18. Rose640's Avatar
    I purely scientific view of evolution excludes god completely. There's no need for one, for starters. Actually, all 'real' science excludes 'god', whichever you like to believe in.

    However, most get stuck on the idea that we're apes and that we had a common ancestor with other apes, monkey's... everything, going back about 4 billion years... that's evolution.

    You are a distant relative of a mushroom, banana, ant, tree, grass, bacteria... etc..

    That seems to upset the fundamentalist. Especially those that are 'young earth' creationists who believe the earth is 6-10 thousand years old. They're completely against science, unless it helps them live (well some believe in healing...), then it's ok, just don't mention that other 'stuff'...
    6-10 thousand years old, that's a good one. I also like to read and watch flat earth science videos. They can amuse a man for a while.
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    06-26-2017 09:45 AM
  19. Rose640's Avatar
    So the UK's proposal for EU citizens sucks... why am I not surprised??
    Willing to clarify it a bit?
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    06-26-2017 09:45 AM
  20. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Willing to clarify it a bit?
    It's a bit difficult to go through everything but in a nutshell.

    UK created a new 'status', this is, from what I can tell the exact same thing as permanent residence except it's 'easier' for an EU citizen to get.

    So this means after 5 years in the UK an EU citizen can get this new status.

    It also has the same issues as permanent residency meaning that if you're out of the country for two years you lose it. So you need to have UK citizenship if you want any form of 'free movement'.

    They also don't want the EU court of justice having any say.

    So technically, they're removing the EU citizen's status as it is and making them permanent based on this new status and you need to do more if you want 'free movement'.

    So it's generally crap compared to what UK citizens will be getting living in the EU.
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    06-26-2017 10:17 AM
  21. raycpl's Avatar
    Amazing pictures!
    Thanks


    Super great shots! Like they've been staged and taken by a pro.
    This is one of the more popular beach here. I was hoping to get a clean uncluttered shot, but today is holiday, so it was doubly packed with tourist. They make nice silhouettes though
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    06-26-2017 10:30 AM
  22. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    6-10 thousand years old, that's a good one. I also like to read and watch flat earth science videos. They can amuse a man for a while.
    It's 'scientifically' based observation using the bible as a source...
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    06-26-2017 10:38 AM
  23. Rose640's Avatar
    It's a bit difficult to go through everything but in a nutshell.

    UK created a new 'status', this is, from what I can tell the exact same thing as permanent residence except it's 'easier' for an EU citizen to get.

    So this means after 5 years in the UK an EU citizen can get this new status.

    It also has the same issues as permanent residency meaning that if you're out of the country for two years you lose it. So you need to have UK citizenship if you want any form of 'free movement'.

    They also don't want the EU court of justice having any say.

    So technically, they're removing the EU citizen's status as it is and making them permanent based on this new status and you need to do more if you want 'free movement'.

    So it's generally crap compared to what UK citizens will be getting living in the EU.
    So they're basically reinventing the wheel, the wrong way.
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    06-26-2017 11:53 AM
  24. Rose640's Avatar
    Thanks




    This is one of the more popular beach here. I was hoping to get a clean uncluttered shot, but today is holiday, so it was doubly packed with tourist. They make nice silhouettes though
    That's what made them so great.
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    06-26-2017 11:54 AM
  25. Rose640's Avatar
    It's 'scientifically' based observation using the bible as a source...
    That and 'you're not allowed to go to the end of the Antartica'.
    06-26-2017 11:55 AM
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