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- I agree. I find it interesting that you say that though. Before getting into the smartphone realm (I was late), most of my feature phones started falling apart after the 1st year. As for my smartphones, I haven't had that issue even though I chose to replace them after or around the year mark.
Aside from screen cracking, I have seen that possibly when it comes to Apple. My friend's mom has an iPhone 4 which has been used as a daily phone for years until the dad upgraded to the iPhone SE last year and gave her that phone.
Let's take the Pixel for example. It's got an end of life cycle for 2018. Think about that for a moment. Here's a device, considered best ever Android phone but the device will only have two OS updates and possibly three years security patches.
Why is the technology of that phone so poor that it can't last past 2018? I'm a little dumbfounded by that.
I can appreciate people wanting something new. I can get the fact that newer devices are generally 'better' but I'm having a hard time believing that a phone is only good for two years. This is my issue.- Share
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libra89 and Laura Knotek like this.07-05-2017 03:00 AMLike 2 - Share
- I have seen them at least 10 or 12 times. In fact, I'm going to see them Thursday. I live on the border with Canada so they come here a lot. Their lead singer, Jeff Martin, reminds me a bit of Jim Morrison. Great vocals and he plays a variety of string instruments from around the world. A great band to see live.
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Laura Knotek likes this.07-05-2017 03:01 AMLike 1 - Share
- My point wasn't about durability of smartphones but the 'longevity' of the device from a hardware/software perspective.
Let's take the Pixel for example. It's got an end of life cycle for 2018. Think about that for a moment. Here's a device, considered best ever Android phone but the device will only have two OS updates and possibly three years security patches.
Why is the technology of that phone so poor that it can't last past 2018? I'm a little dumbfounded by that.
I can appreciate people wanting something new. I can get the fact that newer devices are generally 'better' but I'm having a hard time believing that a phone is only good for two years. This is my issue.- Share
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N_LaRUE likes this.07-05-2017 07:22 AMLike 1 - Share
- My point wasn't about durability of smartphones but the 'longevity' of the device from a hardware/software perspective.
Let's take the Pixel for example. It's got an end of life cycle for 2018. Think about that for a moment. Here's a device, considered best ever Android phone but the device will only have two OS updates and possibly three years security patches.
Why is the technology of that phone so poor that it can't last past 2018? I'm a little dumbfounded by that.
I can appreciate people wanting something new. I can get the fact that newer devices are generally 'better' but I'm having a hard time believing that a phone is only good for two years. This is my issue.
Plus, most OEMs do not control directly how Android software is made, unlike ye old fruit stand. Apple gets a cut from the consumer when you buy the hardware, as that's the gateway to the most important part of their business - software in the form of apps. They also get about 30% (this figure may have been lowered to 20-25%) of revenue of each paid app.
So the Android OEMs see this and want this, but on Android you can only do this by building your ecosystem on top of Google software (aka bloat from the consumer end in the form of skins and value added apps). Or you go the uber hardware route by either building super compelling hardware from deep pockets (Samsung) or running on razor thin margins (Xiaomi).
Truth is, the good Android phones since 2014 (excluding to some degree 2015 as Qualcomm screwed everyone with those chips) are capable of over two years worth support and use. My favorite example is my Z3 Tablet Compact, which is nearly three years old but runs great...and you could theoretically get another two years from (battery degradation excluded) with 7.0 due to multi-purpose to maximize screen real estate. You can blame the switch from 32-bit to 64-bit in 2015, but up to this year Google was supporting the Android Market app for ancient models. Google also found a way to get 7.0 on the Nexus 6, while the Moto Maxx which runs the exact internal base hardware is stuck on 6.0.1.
So Android OEMs make hardware for it to be the next big hit and fully useful for today like the old featured phones of yesteryear...if it is a hit, it is more likely to get support consistently. If it flops, it is easier to bury. At least with Apple, while the softeare runs slower on plder hardware with each update, they have their hands in your pocket software wise so they still rack in the $$$.- Share
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libra89 and Laura Knotek like this.07-05-2017 07:51 AMLike 2 - Share
- So Android OEMs make hardware for it to be the next big hit and fully useful for today like the old featured phones of yesteryear...if it is a hit, it is more likely to get support consistently. If it flops, it is easier to bury. At least with Apple, while the softeare runs slower on plder hardware with each update, they have their hands in your pocket software wise so they still rack in the $$$.
Also, the differences between Apple and Android are very apparent in the way they make money. I knew Apple had ridiculous control over how people purchase things. I believe that's one of Apple's downfalls, though many don't see it that way. Android suffers because of it's inability to capitalise this way.- Share
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Laura Knotek likes this.07-05-2017 09:21 AMLike 1 - Share
- Though I like Android it is one of the more frustrating aspects of the OS and ecosystem. I know Google is trying to fix this. I hope it's soon.
Also, the differences between Apple and Android are very apparent in the way they make money. I knew Apple had ridiculous control over how people purchase things. I believe that's one of Apple's downfalls, though many don't see it that way. Android suffers because of it's inability to capitalise this way.
I like you can root Android. I like the fact OEMs can do skins. What I don't like is the inconsistencies in support. Open alliance stated it's up to 24 months of software updates (much of that driven by the US carrier contract cycles). If Google were smart, they would go with 36 months of OS AND security updates for their phones. That justifies the premium​ price tag.
I didn't get a Pixel as it was too expensive, had lens flare issues and if I chose to keep it for 3 years, I'd get only 2/3 of that with OS updates. Buying a Pixel now gives me a year of OS updates. Makes no sense.
As much as people shat on Sony, while slower with updates, they support their stuff better than most. The Z3+ (a Z3 with the S810 gen 1 chip) runs 7.1.1, launched with 5.0.1. Z3 went from 4.4.4 to 5.0.1 to 5.1 to 6.0.1 (and likely would have seen 7.0). Hardware has matured enough where OEMs could streamline product lines and add a other 6-12 months of support to entrench users into their brand.
But hey, when you greed it, $$$ is all you see...- Share
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07-05-2017 11:04 AMLike 2 - Share
- I often find it funny when people think I'm not listening to them. I do listen, I just think their points are lacking evidence and are nonsense. For some reason, that seems to upset them.
So instead of addressing my points they just make more stuff up...- Share
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07-05-2017 11:38 AMLike 2 - Share
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07-05-2017 09:46 PMLike 3 - Share
- I'm still in between about the V20. I'll make a concerted effort to see if I can flash the final software on it. My guess is I'll have to unlock the bootloader, but will LG allow me? It's essentially a loaner unit, after all...
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07-05-2017 10:21 PMLike 4 - Share
- So, quick update. 50% of my personal Brexit is in place. Still working on the other 50%.
It's a waiting game...- Share
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libra89 and Laura Knotek like this.07-06-2017 03:16 AMLike 2 - Share
- So it's a nice warm and sunny 28C (82F) here. :) I'm at work though... :(
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07-06-2017 08:20 AMLike 2 - Share
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libra89 likes this.07-06-2017 08:34 AMLike 1 - Share
- So my friend who I bought her first smartphone as a gift a few years ago (HTC 8X), is looking for a phone recommendation. She's like Libra and prefers small phones (she's relatively petite and with smaller skinny fingers). Ordinarily, I'd suggest something like the S7 for her, but honestly I told her the iPhone SE.
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07-06-2017 08:36 AMLike 3 - Share
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I took quick look at a news site. It appears the Polish president went out of his way to make Thump feel good about himself... he's such a horrible individual.07-06-2017 08:58 AMLike 0 - They had him on the BBC here and I didn't hear what he said but I can't stand the sight of him personally. Don't get me started on his inability to speak or make sentences.
I took quick look at a news site. It appears the Polish president went out of his way to make Thump feel good about himself... he's such a horrible individual.- Share
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07-06-2017 09:24 AMLike 2 - Share
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- He is holding one of the most important jobs on Earth - media has to talk about him.
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- So my friend who I bought her first smartphone as a gift a few years ago (HTC 8X), is looking for a phone recommendation. She's like Libra and prefers small phones (she's relatively petite and with smaller skinny fingers). Ordinarily, I'd suggest something like the S7 for her, but honestly I told her the iPhone SE.07-06-2017 10:25 AMLike 0
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So this man who really had a strong dislike for the sitting PM at the time (Michael Manley) was watching TV one day. Suddenly, there was PM Manley giving a speech. His wife in the other room heard a loud crash and the sound of breaking glass. She rushed in to see a broken window and an empty space in the living room.
Wife: "What the hell happened here?"
Husband: "PM Manley came on TV in the middle of my show, so I had to kill him. It's about time someone took care of this fool."- Share
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07-06-2017 10:33 AMLike 3 - Share
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07-06-2017 10:34 AMLike 3 - Share
- He is doing his job, getting his ego stroked. The whole running the country bit is a side business.
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07-06-2017 10:35 AMLike 4 - Share
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The whole running the country is to help his business.- Share
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anon(50597) and Laura Knotek like this.07-06-2017 10:47 AMLike 2 - Share
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