[libra89]

Today went well. In reference of the stuff going on went like this:

-Uncle wanted to go to church with me today so we went (he met some of my friends there too)
-Dropped him off at home and then went to my sister's house to get my brother-in-law's sister along with her three teens (two were in the wedding)
-Drove them home in my little coupe (30 minute drive each way, not too long but noticeable)
-Had a very casual cookout for my aunt and uncle, 2 people groups (a couple and their 2 grandsons, and 1 guy) came from outside (we were already a group of 11)
-Surprised my sister with the S7 Edge, she likes it and was super thankful (I chose not to return it after all)
-Ended at like 8:45 (the teens are interesting, one of them is very similar to me lol)
-Cleaned up things inside
-Told aunt and uncle goodbyes and gave hugs since they will be leaving while I'm at work (going to miss them actually)

And now I'm here at 10:54pm. 1 hour left for me before I need to sleep myself...

[worldspy99]

Wow it's about time they finally did that! 2 months to use it if she plans to get the next iPhone.

Have to keep it one more year if I want it to be a free device from TMO.

[libra89]

Have to keep it one more year if I want it to be a free device from TMO.

Wow one year is a long time. Will she be able to hang in there?

[worldspy99]

Wow one year is a long time. Will she be able to hang in there?

Yup, I don't see any issues.

[MSFTisMIA]

I've got mixed feelings about the V20.

[fatclue_98]

I've got mixed feelings about the V20.

Lucy, you got some 'splaining to do.

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[libra89]

I've got mixed feelings about the V20.

Ooh that's tricky when it comes to deciding what to do with it. Why are your feelings mixed? Are you debating if it is worth it to keep it?

[MSFTisMIA]

There's a lot about the V20 I like. It's exactly what you've seen in the reviews.

I love how powerful it is. The cameras are the most fun I've used in a very long time (Nokia). The DAC is in my wheelhouse. The screen is a very nice LCD. For my taste, the phone looks way better in silver. Fingerprint scanner is good. IR blaster is fun to use (app doesn't feel as convoluted as on the Mi Note 2).

Gripes: I like the removable battery. But I prefer good battery life. If I blow through one battery quickly and swap in a fresh one, that's likely to happen again. I can quite easily hammer both batteries before dinnertime and leaves me with still a dead device. When the camera is this fun, you're going to want to use it. And you're going to want you battery to hold up under the abuse, which I doubt this will.
It's not as one hand friendly as I'd like. Yes, you read this right from someone with big paws. Mi Note 2 is way easier to manage one hand.

I want the same sort of versatility with the wide angle I can get with a P series phone. For the P series, you can shoot in monochrome exclusively and take some killer shots. I'd like a F2.0 app and a slightly smaller field of view to reduce the barrel distortion at the edges. I don't mind the main camera having OIS and the wide angle EIS, but there have been times on the V20 I want to shoot in wide angle to get it closer to what I'm seeing visually and if it's not in well light conditions, it's no bueño with the output.

These are some things that give me mixed feelings. I could list more, but I don't know if the dual camera and superior DAC and slightly more efficient processing of some of the apps I use is enough to make this a daily driver over my Mi Note 2.

[fatclue_98]

There's a lot about the V20 I like. It's exactly what you've seen in the reviews.

I love how powerful it is. The cameras are the most fun I've used in a very long time (Nokia). The DAC is in my wheelhouse. The screen is a very nice LCD. For my taste, the phone looks way better in silver. Fingerprint scanner is good. IR blaster is fun to use (app doesn't feel as convoluted as on the Mi Note 2).

Gripes: I like the removable battery. But I prefer good battery life. If I blow through one battery quickly and swap in a fresh one, that's likely to happen again. I can quite easily hammer both batteries before dinnertime and leaves me with still a dead device. When the camera is this fun, you're going to want to use it. And you're going to want you battery to hold up under the abuse, which I doubt this will.
It's not as one hand friendly as I'd like. Yes, you read this right from someone with big paws. Mi Note 2 is way easier to manage one hand.

I want the same sort of versatility with the wide angle I can get with a P series phone. For the P series, you can shoot in monochrome exclusively and take some killer shots. I'd like a F2.0 app and a slightly smaller field of view to reduce the barrel distortion at the edges. I don't mind the main camera having OIS and the wide angle EIS, but there have been times on the V20 I want to shoot in wide angle to get it closer to what I'm seeing visually and if it's not in well light conditions, it's no bueño with the output.

These are some things that give me mixed feelings. I could list more, but I don't know if the dual camera and superior DAC and slightly more efficient processing of some of the apps I use is enough to make this a daily driver over my Mi Note 2.

I've been on the fence about this phone for some time. Some reviews say the battery life is good, whatever that means to them, while others say it's dismal. I'll gladly take your word for it since you've spent some time with it as opposed to a reviewer who might spend an afternoon.

The way I see it, all flagships are within inches of each other when it comes to displays, performance and cameras. Battery life seems to be the biggest differentiator and I haven't seen any LG that cuts the mustard.

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[worldspy99]

I've been on the fence about this phone for some time. Some reviews say the battery life is good, whatever that means to them, while others say it's dismal. I'll gladly take your word for it since you've spent some time with it as opposed to a reviewer who might spend an afternoon.

The way I see it, all flagships are within inches of each other when it comes to displays, performance and cameras. Battery life seems to be the biggest differentiator and I haven't seen any LG that cuts the mustard.

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The G6 routinely lasted me through the day without any issues. I may pick one up later this year.

Right now I am excited to go back to the Pixel before my Europe trip.

[fatclue_98]

The G6 routinely lasted me through the day without any issues. I may pick one up later this year.

Right now I am excited to go back to the Pixel before my Europe trip.

One thing I noticed during my brief time with the S8+ was web pages not rendering properly. My guess is that Chrome hasn't been optimized for 2:1 displays yet.

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[libra89]

There's a lot about the V20 I like. It's exactly what you've seen in the reviews.

I love how powerful it is. The cameras are the most fun I've used in a very long time (Nokia). The DAC is in my wheelhouse. The screen is a very nice LCD. For my taste, the phone looks way better in silver. Fingerprint scanner is good. IR blaster is fun to use (app doesn't feel as convoluted as on the Mi Note 2).

Gripes: I like the removable battery. But I prefer good battery life. If I blow through one battery quickly and swap in a fresh one, that's likely to happen again. I can quite easily hammer both batteries before dinnertime and leaves me with still a dead device. When the camera is this fun, you're going to want to use it. And you're going to want you battery to hold up under the abuse, which I doubt this will.
It's not as one hand friendly as I'd like. Yes, you read this right from someone with big paws. Mi Note 2 is way easier to manage one hand.

I want the same sort of versatility with the wide angle I can get with a P series phone. For the P series, you can shoot in monochrome exclusively and take some killer shots. I'd like a F2.0 app and a slightly smaller field of view to reduce the barrel distortion at the edges. I don't mind the main camera having OIS and the wide angle EIS, but there have been times on the V20 I want to shoot in wide angle to get it closer to what I'm seeing visually and if it's not in well light conditions, it's no bueño with the output.

These are some things that give me mixed feelings. I could list more, but I don't know if the dual camera and superior DAC and slightly more efficient processing of some of the apps I use is enough to make this a daily driver over my Mi Note 2.

Your gripes are valid ones. I can't help but notice that you seem to have more gripes with the V20 over the Mi Note 2. I agree with you on the point about not being sure if it is actually worth it.

If we are similar at all, it's going to bother you. I wish you good luck with your decision.

[worldspy99]

What is going to bother me is how much less money I am going to get trying to sell my S8! Even with a bunch of goodies and a sealed VR headset.

[worldspy99]

Another one bites the dust...
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/31/1...-store-removal

[MSFTisMIA]

There are two things I don't pay attention to when it comes to battery life on phones: other people's opinions or screen on time.

I know my usage metrics well enough that bigger batteries or batteries on well optimized software typically gives me the battery life I want.

For my needs, the V20 has average battery life. This isn't a camera I can push at all in the way I'd like. I'm a still kinda guy, so that's where the usage would be. But this is a camera with good video chops too.

Now, it could be the ROM I'm using...the radio on the pre production software were a bit better but the camera software on this one is a bit better. Don't think that makes a ton of difference, really.

Give me a 1080P with a big battery and well optimized software. I don't think 2K or 4K displays on these phones are ideal, given the battery constraints. And I don't agree with paying extra $ annually for more efficient processing as the best way to improve battery life.

[libra89]

What is going to bother me is how much less money I am going to get trying to sell my S8! Even with a bunch of goodies and a sealed VR headset.

Yeah that's unfortunate. Who would have guessed that this would happen so soon?

[libra89]

Another one bites the dust...
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/31/1...-store-removal

They say that the results of the development is going to SwiftKey. We'll see about that but I loved that keyboard.

[fatclue_98]

There are two things I don't pay attention to when it comes to battery life on phones: other people's opinions or screen on time.

I know my usage metrics well enough that bigger batteries or batteries on well optimized software typically gives me the battery life I want.

For my needs, the V20 has average battery life. This isn't a camera I can push at all in the way I'd like. I'm a still kinda guy, so that's where the usage would be. But this is a camera with good video chops too.

Now, it could be the ROM I'm using...the radio on the pre production software were a bit better but the camera software on this one is a bit better. Don't think that makes a ton of difference, really.

Give me a 1080P with a big battery and well optimized software. I don't think 2K or 4K displays on these phones are ideal, given the battery constraints. And I don't agree with paying extra $ annually for more efficient processing as the best way to improve battery life.

Agreed. It's just before 2:00PM and I'm at 37 phone calls and counting. Throw in three dozen emails and you see why my battery requirements are higher than most. Up until now, the only phones that have been able to sustain my days are the S8+, Pixel XL, Elite x3 and my present Jade Primo.



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[worldspy99]

Okay regular posters. I have a favor to ask.
Any suggestions on a good laptop backpack? My current Targus laptop bag gave in after 11 years. The bag is still good but a couple of plastic support pieces inside broke and overall it's worn after a lot of use.

I have two confirmed trips coming up and probably a third one to Boston as well in August and need a new bag.

Thanks in advance.

[MSFTisMIA]

Okay regular posters. I have a favor to ask.
Any suggestions on a good laptop backpack? My current Targus laptop bag gave in after 11 years. The bag is still good but a couple of plastic support pieces inside broke and overall it's worn after a lot of use.

I have two confirmed trips coming up and probably a third one to Boston as well in August and need a new bag.

Thanks in advance.

Timbuktu if your budget allows?

[MSFTisMIA]

Agreed. It's just before 2:00PM and I'm at 37 phone calls and counting. Throw in three dozen emails and you see why my battery requirements are higher than most. Up until now, the only phones that have been able to sustain my days are the S8+, Pixel XL, Elite x3 and my present Jade Primo.



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Let me charge it every other day. That's all I want. I know with my current usage a key one will do that. But there are times I want to use the camera when I'm out and not in the mood to either switch devices or carry a secondary device.

I know that most likely I'll need a secondary device, especially if I want to do more mobile photography. The only two cameras I like are the XL and LG's dual camera setup.

Good thing I have time and no extra money to change a phone until October at the earliest. Just a pain to find what I'm looking for, that's all.

[worldspy99]

Timbuktu if your budget allows?

The selection was mind boggling. I did settle on a Timbuk 2 Parkside. Let's see how it holds up.

[N_LaRUE]

Two offers on the house by the same person and no one has seen it...

Interesting.

[MSFTisMIA]

The selection was mind boggling. I did settle on a Timbuk 2 Parkside. Let's see how it holds up.

It usually is. I finally found my work bag replacement after returning 4 bags.

[worldspy99]

Two offers on the house by the same person and no one has seen it...

Interesting.

I smell an investor...