1. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Yeah the X4 sounds great! I'm looking forward to finding out about the camera to come. I was shocked to learn that it is smaller than both of the G5 phones. It's a bit tall for me, story of my phone life but it sounds like a solid phone.

    Someone on AC left a comment saying that it's good that there's finally a phone with a second wide angle lens outside of LG. I didn't even realize that until their comment. That can be fun to play with.
    I know who said that comment. He's good like that.

    I don't mind others using wide angle lens, as it gives more choice. That's needed. But we will see what happens.
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    09-01-2017 12:54 PM
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    Make their Q line useful is what LG could do here.

    Moto is smart as after the buzzsaw that was 2016, the heavy hitters in the US moved on...no Alcatel, honor, Oneplus, or ZTE are in that $400 space. This has a chance to sell if it does work with Project Fi and the cameras aren't garbage.

    I just don't trust them with regards to software support.
    Moto and software support is like Apple making affordable smartphones.

    Not going to happen.
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    09-01-2017 12:55 PM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Moto and software support is like Apple making affordable smartphones.

    Not going to happen.
    I know. They've already stated clearly they do security updates quarterly. It's why I won't buy another one, even though the X4 doesn't look like a bad offering.
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    09-01-2017 01:01 PM
  4. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Ha, ha.
    You and being nice (read not sarcastic) is like Sony pricing their phones affordably.

    #LookWhatYouMadeMeDo
    #goownyourcommentsfirst .
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    09-01-2017 01:02 PM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    Make their Q line useful is what LG could do here.

    Moto is smart as after the buzzsaw that was 2016, the heavy hitters in the US moved on...no Alcatel, honor, Oneplus, or ZTE are in that $400 space. This has a chance to sell if it does work with Project Fi and the cameras aren't garbage.

    I just don't trust them with regards to software support.
    I'm surprised that ZTE hasn't released or announced anything. I never realized how good I had it with honor. Having to clean the cache partition after a month and some is just sad. :/ That is really bumming out my experience with the A3.

    I might have to modify my words about not buying anything right now as this issue is making me think of the Pixel...again. I just miss that camera but I know I shouldn't. I just need to wait.
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    09-01-2017 01:07 PM
  6. libra89's Avatar
    I know who said that comment. He's good like that.

    I don't mind others using wide angle lens, as it gives more choice. That's needed. But we will see what happens.
    I already forgot who said the comment so I looked back to find out and I generally like his comments.
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    09-01-2017 01:11 PM
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    I'm surprised that ZTE hasn't released or announced anything. I never realized how good I had it with honor. Having to clean the cache partition after a month and some is just sad. :/ That is really bumming out my experience with the A3.

    I might have to modify my words about not buying anything right now as this issue is making me think of the Pixel...again. I just miss that camera but I know I shouldn't. I just need to wait.
    Pixel is probably the closest thing to an iPhone IMO in the Android world.
    And yes, the camera doesn't disappoint.
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    09-01-2017 01:13 PM
  8. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    They finally opened up a bit more about the fingerprint scanner. It was a contract with a USA carrier. Not well thought out on Sony's side. I think that's soon coming to an end (maybe next year,?) so it's possible they will release a patch to make it operational in the US once it's over. Easily done as it's just software.

    I know there's opinions on Sony in general and I do agree with some. I still think they make good hardware though. It's really the software (camera wise) that let's them down a touch.

    Also I think their recent design is quite nice and I think it could lend itself to a more bezeless design. Which I personally think would be very nice looking. But we'll see.

    Overall I think Sony is going the right way but they're still a bit off with some things. This time I don't think it's price personally.
    The lack of a functional fingerprint scanner on USA Sony phones has to be a drawback. I didn't have a phone with a fingerprint scanner until I got my V20, but now I wouldn't want a phone without one, especially since many apps allow me to log in using the fingerprint scanner.
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    09-01-2017 01:13 PM
  9. libra89's Avatar
    Pixel is probably the closest thing to an iPhone IMO in the Android world.
    And yes, the camera doesn't disappoint.
    I agree on both points. When it comes to the Pixel, I generally knew that the issue is with the app and not with the phone itself, if I had app weirdness.
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    09-01-2017 01:37 PM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm surprised that ZTE hasn't released or announced anything. I never realized how good I had it with honor. Having to clean the cache partition after a month and some is just sad. :/ That is really bumming out my experience with the A3.

    I might have to modify my words about not buying anything right now as this issue is making me think of the Pixel...again. I just miss that camera but I know I shouldn't. I just need to wait.
    ZTE isn't going to do anything right now because of how cutthroat that price point was. I'm not sure if it's necessary for them to come back in for a while, either.

    You're looking for something that size wise to fit your needs. Those options are few and far between, so good luck.
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    09-01-2017 03:49 PM
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    ZTE isn't going to do anything right now because of how cutthroat that price point was. I'm not sure if it's necessary for them to come back in for a while, either.

    You're looking for something that size wise to fit your needs. Those options are few and far between, so good luck.
    They just released a couple of new Blade and Zmax updated handsets but they're on Metro POS. I have TMO branded Zmax Pro I keep buried in a drawer that's eternally stuck on Marshmallow. I knew going in that it would be like buying a Blu - no updates. But I wasn't prepared for the insanely slow performance. Might as well have been named the. ZTE Zlag Pro.

    Sent from my HP Elite x3 on mTalk
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    09-01-2017 04:09 PM
  12. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Funny-ish story.

    So my friend who I gave her a HTC 8X as her first smartphone (which she lost in a cab) moved to NYC recently. She was asking me for phone recommendations as she is like Libra (prefers compact phones) but doesn't want to spend money on a phone. She even called me her "phone guy".

    So I suggested to her twice the Moto E4. Told her to even look at it in person first. I also suggested an iPhone SE would be a solid investment too.

    She calls me last week after being without a phone here for two weeks and stated she bought a new phone. She ended up getting a t mobile revvl (5.5").

    She told me she picked that phone, even though she admitted not knowing about phones. Her logic: "I trusted the sales rep because he is Jamaican like me."

    MIA's response: 🤔🤐

    This is why I don't give buyer's recommendations.
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    09-01-2017 04:50 PM
  13. libra89's Avatar
    ZTE isn't going to do anything right now because of how cutthroat that price point was. I'm not sure if it's necessary for them to come back in for a while, either.

    You're looking for something that size wise to fit your needs. Those options are few and far between, so good luck.
    That's a great point.

    Thanks, you're exactly right about that. At the moment, the XZ1 Compact seems to fit that. I think I'll just deal with the SE until that phone goes on sale. There should be reviews by then too.
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    09-01-2017 04:55 PM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    That's a great point.

    Thanks, you're exactly right about that. At the moment, the XZ1 Compact seems to fit that. I think I'll just deal with the SE until that phone goes on sale. There should be reviews by then too.
    Ok. I'm sure you'll keep us posted. You might become a shrinking violet while waiting for that sake though...lol...
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    09-01-2017 04:58 PM
  15. libra89's Avatar
    Ok. I'm sure you'll keep us posted. You might become a shrinking violet while waiting for that sake though...lol...
    I hate how right you can be sometimes. Lol
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    09-01-2017 05:02 PM
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    09-01-2017 05:08 PM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I hate how right you can be sometimes. Lol
    To be honest, I don't enjoy that either.
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    09-01-2017 05:08 PM
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    Ooh nice shot!
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    09-01-2017 05:09 PM
  19. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Ooh nice shot!
    Thanks. I just love how dramatic the wide angle lens can be.
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    09-01-2017 05:18 PM
  20. libra89's Avatar
    To be honest, I don't enjoy that either.
    Aw.

    Your previous comment kind of reminds me of my friend's comment last week. The last two times he has seen me, he asked me what new phone I have today

    Same friend made a joke about my buying of phones being legal before, just as a point of context.

    Resistance is hard but I don't know if I want to deal with selling. At least more than I should anyway.
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    09-01-2017 05:19 PM
  21. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Aw.

    Your previous comment kind of reminds me of my friend's comment last week. The last two times he has seen me, he asked me what new phone I have today

    Same friend made a joke about my buying of phones being legal before, just as a point of context.

    Resistance is hard but I don't know if I want to deal with selling. At least more than I should anyway.
    Buying is always the easy part...the trick is selling the existing model. We're not all as blessed as 99 in that department...
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    09-01-2017 05:32 PM
  22. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Funny-ish story.

    So my friend who I gave her a HTC 8X as her first smartphone (which she lost in a cab) moved to NYC recently. She was asking me for phone recommendations as she is like Libra (prefers compact phones) but doesn't want to spend money on a phone. She even called me her "phone guy".

    So I suggested to her twice the Moto E4. Told her to even look at it in person first. I also suggested an iPhone SE would be a solid investment too.

    She calls me last week after being without a phone here for two weeks and stated she bought a new phone. She ended up getting a t mobile revvl (5.5").

    She told me she picked that phone, even though she admitted not knowing about phones. Her logic: "I trusted the sales rep because he is Jamaican like me."

    MIA's response: 🤔🤐

    This is why I don't give buyer's recommendations.
    And you wonder why people end up working through some of the things they purchase...

    ...just cannot let a sales person talk you into something...they're trying to get paid too, right?
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    09-01-2017 05:33 PM
  23. libra89's Avatar
    And you wonder why people end up working through some of the things they purchase...

    ...just cannot let a sales person talk you into something...they're trying to get paid too, right?
    Aw your friend. I would have never guessed that she would do that. I guess you'll find out how long she lasts with that phone lol.

    I agree though.

    I was wondering what happened with her, thanks for the update.
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    09-01-2017 06:28 PM
  24. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Aw your friend. I would have never guessed that she would do that. I guess you'll find out how long she lasts with that phone lol.

    I agree though.

    I was wondering what happened with her, thanks for the update.
    I'm not surprised she did that, honestly.

    To me it isn't about her phone purchase itself, but her willingness to choose a sales rep who was motivated to sell her something as supposed to someone who tried to make suggestions based on her known preferences was what spoke volumes (none of it good).

    The funniest part is how she asked me if I knew what phone she bought (I said yes), and how she was seeking some sort of validation of her purchase to which after a slight pause I said:

    "That's that."
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    09-01-2017 06:33 PM
  25. libra89's Avatar
    I'm not surprised she did that, honestly.

    To me it isn't about her phone purchase itself, but her willingness to choose a sales rep who was motivated to sell her something as supposed to someone who tried to make suggestions based on her known preferences was what spoke volumes (none of it good).

    The funniest part is how she asked me if I knew what phone she bought (I said yes), and how she was seeking some sort of validation of her purchase to which after a slight pause I said:

    "That's that."
    I do think that is a weird choice but if you're not surprised, I should see that as a sign. That's a perfect answer that you gave her though haha.
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    09-01-2017 06:57 PM
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