1. libra89's Avatar
    Compared to the MXPE when brand new, the V20 has much better battery life.
    I'm also glad to hear that as well. Pleased that is working out for you.
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    09-02-2017 10:36 PM
  2. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Here's the modified summary:

    "What also stood out to me was at one point lower Manhattan was without power. I remember being on that shuttle bus going through lower Manhattan from the Barclays center in Back trying to get to work and it was dead silence...no foot traffic, storefronts and buildings were eerily devoid of activity. Cell service was ****. It looked like those post Apocalypse films but all the buildings were inact ayet lifeless. And like the just position of affluence and poverty separated by the crossing of the street, when the bus hit the first block with power it was like regular NYC affair. I didn't think that nothing could stand out more...but I was wrong.

    A trip through unlit downtown Manhattan did the trick by foot that night. I was trying to track down the old chess master out of concern and walking down Park Avenue South in veiled darkness was even more eerie than the bus ride. It didn't get much better after I passed Union Square, Broadway was pretty dark - as dark as I remember strolling through the countryside of St. Elizabeth on summer nights as a child. You know, that kind of darkness where you only get to see ten feet in front of you and your flashlight gets swallowed in the light. The only difference here was that instead of being flanked by bushes on either side, unlit and unoccupied buildings provided the backdrop. I did run into the ocassions restaurant open and serving people candelight (closer to Union Square), but it was desolate.

    I got to the Brooklyn Bridge, and made my way across. The bridge was literally half lit: the Brooklyn side had power and I stopped at the line of where darkness met light on the bridge and looked back to see that dark desolate view of lower Manhattan: cold, imposing, seemingly rife with the stuff that was scare kids straight late at night."
    Last edited by MSFTisMIA; 09-03-2017 at 11:17 AM.
    09-02-2017 10:37 PM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Yes, I owned a Galaxy Nexus then. And yes, I took pictures. As horrible as the camera was, it did a decent job capturing that dread and forboding. If I find them, I'll post them.

    And yes, that was an incredibly stupid thing on some levels walking alone like that. It is a story I've never revealed in this level of detail until now. But I did it because I had to see it. Cannot explain what it was, but I needed to see it.
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    09-02-2017 10:40 PM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    Here's the modified summary:

    "What also stood out to me was at one point lower Manhattan was without power. I remember being on that shuttle bus going through lower Manhattan from the Barclays center in Back trying to get to work and it was dead silence...no foot traffic, storefronts and buildings were eerily devoid of activity. Cell service was ****. It looked like those post Apocalypse films but all the buildings were inact ayet lifeless. And like the just position of affluence and poverty separated by the crossing of the street, when the bus hit the first block with power it was like regular NYC affair. I didn't think that nothing could stand out more...but I was wrong.

    A trip through unlit downtown Manhattan did the trick by foot that night. I was trying to track down the old chess master out of concern and walking down Park Avenue South in veiled darkness was even more eerie than the bus ride. It didn't get much better after I passed Union Square, Broadway was pretty dark - as dark as I remember strolling through the countryside of St. Elizabeth on summer nights as a child. You know, that kind of darkness where you only get to see ten feet in front of you and your flashlight gets swallowed in the light. The only difference here was that instead of being flanked by bushes on either side, unlit and unoccupied buildings provided the backdrop. I did run into the ocassions restaurant open and serving people candelight (closer to Union Square), but it was desolate.

    I got to the Brooklyn Bridge, and made my way across. The bridge was literally half lit: the Brooklyn side and power and I stopped at the line of where darkness met light on the bridge and looked back to see that dark desolate view of lower Manhattan: cold, imposing, seemingly rife with the stuff that was scare kids straight late at night."
    Wow...

    I can't even begin to imagine how seeing that felt. Thank you for sharing.
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    09-02-2017 10:41 PM
  5. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Wow...

    I can't even begin to imagine how seeing that felt. Thank you for sharing.
    You know that pitch black I'm talking about too, I'm sure. You kind of think you don't see those in urban settings, but they are here in those truly unlit pockets. Kinda makes you not taking walking in well lit areas at night for granted as much...
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    09-02-2017 10:43 PM
  6. libra89's Avatar
    You know that pitch black I'm talking about too, I'm sure. You kind of think you don't see those in urban settings, but they are here in those truly unlit pockets. Kinda makes you not taking walking in well lit areas at night for granted as much...
    That's just terrifying. Yes I have seen it before, but only in power outages after dark when I'm home. Seeing that outside like that is something I can't wrap my head around. I can but trying to imagine how that is and how it felt, especially in a place like NYC.
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    09-02-2017 10:48 PM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    That's just terrifying. Yes I have seen it before, but only in power outages after dark when I'm home. Seeing that outside like that is something I can't wrap my head around. I can but trying to imagine how that is and how it felt, especially in a place like NYC.
    They had the same issues I saw in the unlit lower Manhattan that I experienced during Gilbert...the lack of power had people running low on basic supplies and there was minor looting and the most vulnerable rummaged through garbage for food at one point.

    Yes, that post Apocalypse film looking, except for intact buildings. Yep, NYC in that corner of the city at least, down down and dirty. College Point was just as bad, and they had the building devastation to back it up.

    I remember that night too where in midtown you literally cross one avenue that was normally lit to another that was in total darkness. It was...intense.
    09-02-2017 10:53 PM
  8. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Hmm, I wouldn't have expected for you to feel that way about the battery life still. I figured as much for the rest though. Questions for you: Do you regret getting a second battery now? Also if you could go back in time, would you stop yourself from buying that or no?

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall that both you and Laura got extra ones.
    I don't regret getting a secondary battery. It's not the battery swapping that's annoying per se, it's the fact that the software isn't as up to date and tuned as it should be to get the most of the device.

    I know Laura has a different experience. However, for me, standby times is very good but once you start to use it, battery runs. I know I'm not using appropriate software...but I'm not sure if LG will tune this the right way for 8.0.
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    09-02-2017 11:06 PM
  9. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    That is good to hear.
    I'm also glad to hear that as well. Pleased that is working out for you.
    I'll have an in-depth review of the V20 this weekend and share a link.
    09-03-2017 12:01 AM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'll have an in-depth review of the V20 this weekend and share a link.
    Looking forward to it.
    09-03-2017 10:57 AM
  11. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/0...nt-suggestions

    A very good read. It is something i could argue that highlights the troubles the current president has in reaching his CEO friends to try to bring jobs back, something that impacts OEMs interest in software updates, among other things...
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    09-03-2017 11:36 AM
  12. libra89's Avatar
    I'll have an in-depth review of the V20 this weekend and share a link.
    Please do! Also looking forward to it.
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    09-03-2017 04:53 PM
  13. libra89's Avatar
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/0...nt-suggestions

    A very good read. It is something i could argue that highlights the troubles the current president has in reaching his CEO friends to try to bring jobs back, something that impacts OEMs interest in software updates, among other things...
    It really was, thank you for sharing. I didn't know that Kodak was like that back then. I have always heard that it isn't so easy to just "bring jobs back" and I had an idea of a reason why but this shows how it seems to start with the actual company.
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    09-03-2017 05:22 PM
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    They had the same issues I saw in the unlit lower Manhattan that I experienced during Gilbert...the lack of power had people running low on basic supplies and there was minor looting and the most vulnerable rummaged through garbage for food at one point.

    Yes, that post Apocalypse film looking, except for intact buildings. Yep, NYC in that corner of the city at least, down down and dirty. College Point was just as bad, and they had the building devastation to back it up.

    I remember that night too where in midtown you literally cross one avenue that was normally lit to another that was in total darkness. It was...intense.
    It's been 25 years but you brought back memories from Andrew. I guess the difference is that the buildings in Manhattan stayed while South Dade County was flattened. It took 3 weeks to get power back and some places even longer. Personally, I could go the rest of my life without ever seeing another hurricane again. Andrew, Charley, Frances, Jeanne and Wilma are names that conjure up bad feels.

    Sent from my Acer Liquid Jade Primo on mTalk
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    09-03-2017 05:36 PM
  15. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    It's been 25 years but you brought back memories from Andrew. I guess the difference is that the buildings in Manhattan stayed while South Dade County was flattened. It took 3 weeks to get power back and some places even longer. Personally, I could go the rest of my life without ever seeing another hurricane again. Andrew, Charley, Frances, Jeanne and Wilma are names that conjure up bad feels.

    Sent from my Acer Liquid Jade Primo on mTalk
    Well, my apologies. Watching the Harvey coverage caused me to flash back to both Gilbert and Sandy. That sort of stuff you don't really forget as easily for sure come this time of year.

    Those storms you listed were dreadful... especially Andrew.
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    09-03-2017 08:15 PM
  16. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    On a more positive note, I'm glad to be off tomorrow. It's been such a whirlwind at work I needed a day to sit and process a few things. It's been OK so far...just a lot to learn, unlearn and adjust to...
    09-03-2017 08:16 PM
  17. libra89's Avatar
    On a more positive note, I'm glad to be off tomorrow. It's been such a whirlwind at work I needed a day to sit and process a few things. It's been OK so far...just a lot to learn, unlearn and adjust to...
    That's awesome! Enjoy the day \o/
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    09-03-2017 08:52 PM
  18. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    That's awesome! Enjoy the day \o/
    Thanks. It's needed.
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    09-03-2017 08:53 PM
  19. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I'll spend tomorrow writing up my V20 review.
    09-03-2017 09:42 PM
  20. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'm spending Labor Day doing anything but labor. If getting out of bed involves labor, cancel that too.
    09-03-2017 10:55 PM
  21. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    So you might have noticed I haven't exactly been posting much. I've been busy, both at home and at work. Thought I'd give everyone a quick update.

    - Just received notice that my UK residency has been approved. This means that I could apply for citizenship if I wanted to but I don't think I will. The cost of it just isn't worth it to me. This allows a small backup plan as well if things don't go well in France in the next two years.

    - Speaking of France, things had a bit of a slow down with the house but appear to be moving again. We're expecting the contract to show up in the next week or so. If things go as planned we should have the house by December. Basically the same time we move from the UK.

    - Our house in the UK is moving along. No hiccups as of yet so it looks like smooth sailing. We have the evaluator stopping by today (standard practice for selling a house in the UK). So after this I assume the contract will show up sometime soon after.

    - We ordered our packing stuff and we're contacting a removalist who appears to have a good price. We would move ourselves but this seems like the better choice. Both from a scheduling and budget perspective.

    - We've booked our temporary accommodation in France for the first two months. I may have mentioned the property we bought needs some TLC. So this will allow us to assess things better and get prices for things.

    - Our nephew and his wife and his sister are dropping by around Christmas so that will be nice. Our nephew said he'd happily help but not to expect much because he has issues hanging a picture on a wall... we do have some demolition tasks to do...

    - Lastly, I have a pre-interview phone call with a company in Paris this Thursday. This was supposed to happen last Friday. There is no job but it's a 'possibility'.

    At this point in time it doesn't matter about a job in Paris or any job for that matter as we're unsure of costs and timelines. So we're going to see how things play out. We're moving forward with wanting to get out of the rat race and be independent so we'll concentrate on that as we learn more about what options we have for everything.

    So, come the end of November, I'm moving to France. I can't say much else after that. LOL!
    Last edited by N_LaRUE; 09-04-2017 at 05:58 AM.
    09-04-2017 02:19 AM
  22. libra89's Avatar
    So you might have noticed I haven't exactly been posting much. I've been busy, both at home and at work. Thought I'd give everyone a quick update.

    - Just received notice that my UK residency has been approved. This means that I could apply for citizenship if I wanted to but I don't think I will. The cost of it just isn't worth it to me. This allows a small backup plan as well if things don't go well in France in the next two years.

    - Speaking of France, things had a bit of a slow down with the house but appear to be moving again. We're expecting the contract to show up in the next week or so. If things go as planned we should have the house by December. Basically the same time we move from the UK.

    - Our house in the UK is moving along. No hiccups as of yet so it looks like smooth sailing. We have the evaluator stopping by today (standard practice for selling a house in the UK). So after this I assume the contract will show up sometime soon after.

    - We ordered our packing stuff and we're contacting a removalist who appears to have a good price. We would move ourselves but this seems like the better choice. Both from a scheduling and budget perspective.

    - We've booked our temporary accommodation in France for the first two months. I may have mentioned the property we bought needs some TLC. So this will allow us to assess things better and get prices for things.

    - Our nephew and his wife and his sister are dropping by around Christmas so that will be nice. Our nephew said he'd happily help but not to expect much because he has issues hanging a picture on a wall... we do have some demolition tasks to do...

    - Lastly, I have a pre-interview phone call with a company in Paris this Thursday. This was supposed to happen last Friday. There is no job but it's a 'possibility'.

    At this point in time it doesn't matter about a job in Paris or any job for that matter as we're unsure of costs and timelines. So we're going to see how things play out. We're moving forward with wanting to get out of the rat race and be independent so we'll concentrate on that as we learn more about what options we have for everything.

    So, come the end of November, I'm moving to France. I can't say much else after that. LOL!
    I have noticed and I have wondered if you're alright. Whoa you have a lot going on. I wish you the best with the houses (in regards to the contracts and everything involved), the pre-interview phone call, the removalist and the other moving parts right now and to come.

    You and your wife are brave to do such a change. I know you'll probably say that you have done parts of this process before but still. Change is hard and it seems like you two are taking it head on. Congrats on the UK residency. Choice is good to have.
    09-04-2017 11:42 AM
  23. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    So you might have noticed I haven't exactly been posting much. I've been busy, both at home and at work. Thought I'd give everyone a quick update.

    - Just received notice that my UK residency has been approved. This means that I could apply for citizenship if I wanted to but I don't think I will. The cost of it just isn't worth it to me. This allows a small backup plan as well if things don't go well in France in the next two years.

    - Speaking of France, things had a bit of a slow down with the house but appear to be moving again. We're expecting the contract to show up in the next week or so. If things go as planned we should have the house by December. Basically the same time we move from the UK.

    - Our house in the UK is moving along. No hiccups as of yet so it looks like smooth sailing. We have the evaluator stopping by today (standard practice for selling a house in the UK). So after this I assume the contract will show up sometime soon after.

    - We ordered our packing stuff and we're contacting a removalist who appears to have a good price. We would move ourselves but this seems like the better choice. Both from a scheduling and budget perspective.

    - We've booked our temporary accommodation in France for the first two months. I may have mentioned the property we bought needs some TLC. So this will allow us to assess things better and get prices for things.

    - Our nephew and his wife and his sister are dropping by around Christmas so that will be nice. Our nephew said he'd happily help but not to expect much because he has issues hanging a picture on a wall... we do have some demolition tasks to do...

    - Lastly, I have a pre-interview phone call with a company in Paris this Thursday. This was supposed to happen last Friday. There is no job but it's a 'possibility'.

    At this point in time it doesn't matter about a job in Paris or any job for that matter as we're unsure of costs and timelines. So we're going to see how things play out. We're moving forward with wanting to get out of the rat race and be independent so we'll concentrate on that as we learn more about what options we have for everything.

    So, come the end of November, I'm moving to France. I can't say much else after that. LOL!
    I'm glad things are going well for you. That's incredibly brave to me! I cannot imagine moving to a country in which I don't speak its language. I'd have a hard time even buying things in a store.
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    09-04-2017 03:19 PM
  24. worldspy99's Avatar
    Found this today, off the beaten track at a campground in Angeles National Forest.
    It works!!!
    09-04-2017 06:25 PM
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    09-04-2017 06:26 PM
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