1. fatclue_98's Avatar
    You know I'm going to ask what I'm about to ask.
    What made you decide to go back? What happened to the new iPhone 8?

    Also congrats!
    The iPhone is in purgatory. It really boiled down to PIM. Outlook is simply superior on Windows. Contact management can be frustrating too. It is nice to have all these apps but I don't use them nearly enough to outweigh the daily pluses WM provides. Oh and the battery life.

    I might return it and keep an SE for weekend use. I don't answer email on weekends and my boss uses a flip phone and doesn't even have an email address. My secretary's email (and mine) are his de-facto addresses. Smart man, I have mad respect for a business owner that doesn't compromise on face-to-face communication. I'm not sure he knows how to text either.

    Anyhoo, when the day comes I will shift to iOS. They're so close now. I wish they weren't so stubborn about mouse support though. Their Remote Desktop app is much better than Android but the inability to use a mouse and keyboard defeats the purpose of having x86 capabilities on a phone (or tablet). That's another reason for my switch, albeit a secondary reason.

    Sent from my HP Elite x3 on mTalk
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    10-06-2017 06:04 PM
  2. worldspy99's Avatar
    Okay so this has been bugging me since the Pixel 2 launched so I had to go do this comparison especially after reading this article.

    Article here:
    https://9to5google.com/2017/10/06/op...he-nexus-days/

    Comparison here:
    https://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...nes/10584,9593
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    10-06-2017 08:48 PM
  3. libra89's Avatar
    Okay so this has been bugging me since the Pixel 2 launched so I had to go do this comparison especially after reading this article.

    Article here:
    https://9to5google.com/2017/10/06/op...he-nexus-days/

    Comparison here:
    https://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...nes/10584,9593
    Wow I never thought about that before the article. That's really weird. I did notice the small mention of the Pixel 2 but I didn't think it was that deep.

    Weirdly enough, it makes me feel better about cancelling my order.
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    10-06-2017 09:26 PM
  4. MSFTisMIA's Avatar


    NJPAC inside... regular and wide...
    10-07-2017 07:48 AM
  5. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    The concert was really good. It was nice to see one of the original members of each group still alive.

    I like the V20's camera - except for the zoom and low light work. I'm curious to see how the V30 improves on this. It is a fun camera to use.
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    10-07-2017 07:52 AM
  6. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Laura, these are for you...
    10-07-2017 07:53 AM
  7. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    That's a nice venue! It looks like all the seats are great.
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    10-07-2017 11:57 AM
  8. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    10-07-2017 11:58 AM
  9. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    The concert was really good. It was nice to see one of the original members of each group still alive.

    I like the V20's camera - except for the zoom and low light work. I'm curious to see how the V30 improves on this. It is a fun camera to use.
    I'm glad you enjoyed the concert. It looks like the theatre would have excellent acoustics from the pictures you took. How was the sound?
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    10-07-2017 11:59 AM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm glad you enjoyed the concert. It looks like the theatre would have excellent acoustics from the pictures you took. How was the sound?
    The acoustics were absolutely insane. I just pointed the V20 to the stage and didn't do much work from an audio standpoint...at the right volume, the sound is very rich and very clear. My issue with the camera is the zoom isn't good, especially in low light. So I feel I get half the experience as the footage looks a bit too grainy for my taste. Some of it is just trying to find the right settings. The Note 5 (GF's) did better with zoom on video but the audio is trash comparatively. It's why I want to see what the V30 has to offer.

    Still, it was a great time for sure.
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    10-07-2017 03:30 PM
  11. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    The V20 took a nasty spill, picking up some scuffs near the audio jack and on the top hand side while trying to take this picture. Corners of the screen ate it though...

    ..so that means I need to replace my second tempered glass screen protector in two weeks. Not complaining, but it's a bit annoying.

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    10-07-2017 03:33 PM
  12. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I've enjoyed the time with the V20. Still, I'd like to replace it with something either more compact or with the hardware combo that's a better fit for what I want to do from a video and photos perspective.
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    10-07-2017 03:46 PM
  13. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    The V20 took a nasty spill, picking up some scuffs near the audio jack and on the top hand side while trying to take this picture. Corners of the screen ate it though...

    ..so that means I need to replace my second tempered glass screen protector in two weeks. Not complaining, but it's a bit annoying.

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a08e5e9a64.jpg
    I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you'll be able to get a new screen protector soon.
    10-07-2017 04:07 PM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you'll be able to get a new screen protector soon.
    By Wednesday I should have one. It's why I don't use phones without one. Ever.
    10-07-2017 04:11 PM
  15. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I've enjoyed the time with the V20. Still, I'd like to replace it with something either more compact or with the hardware combo that's a better fit for what I want to do from a video and photos perspective.
    I'm happy with my V20, but I'm more impressed with the quad DAC. The V20 also has a much better camera than my old MXPE had and is easier for me to hold than the MXPE. The MXPE was rather chunky and the back wasn't grippy like on the OG Moto X, so I needed to use a case. I'm using the V20 without a case but with a tempered glass screen protector. I had a case but no screen protector for the MXPE.
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    10-07-2017 04:11 PM
  16. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm happy with my V20, but I'm more impressed with the quad DAC. The V20 also has a much better camera than my old MXPE had and is easier for me to hold than the MXPE. The MXPE was rather chunky and the back wasn't grippy like on the OG Moto X, so I needed to use a case. I'm using the V20 without a case but with a tempered glass screen protector. I had a case but no screen protector for the MXPE.
    The quad DAC is utterly astounding. Best feature by far. My second favorite are the video controls.

    Having gotten used to the camera, I just want the better low light performance and less barrel distortion from the wide angle lens. Plus, I do think 8.0 may help the battery life to be a bit better.

    It's on the road to what I want, just not quite there yet.
    Last edited by MSFTisMIA; 10-07-2017 at 10:37 PM.
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    10-07-2017 04:53 PM
  17. libra89's Avatar
    My Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact is coming tomorrow and I have mixed feelings of excitement and nerves, just because of the camera experience. It looks like they finally fixed the processing on the software side but will it be enough? I have seen a few video and written reviews and it appears to be better.

    I do want it but the seller I bought it from has a 15% restocking fee for returning it opened/used, which sucks. I'm hoping that it would be worth the chance, like my Galaxy A3 was. We will find out if the camera works out or not in the next 24 hours...
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    10-08-2017 06:23 PM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    My Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact is coming tomorrow and I have mixed feelings of excitement and nerves, just because of the camera experience. It looks like they finally fixed the processing on the software side but will it be enough? I have seen a few video and written reviews and it appears to be better.

    I do want it but the seller I bought it from has a 15% restocking fee for returning it opened/used, which sucks. I'm hoping that it would be worth the chance, like my Galaxy A3 was. We will find out if the camera works out or not in the next 24 hours...
    Phone Scoop just reviewed it yesterday. The imaging and display scored well but not so much the rest.
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    10-08-2017 07:57 PM
  19. libra89's Avatar
    Phone Scoop just reviewed it yesterday. The imaging and display scored well but not so much the rest.
    I will check it out thank you!

    Edit: It's for the XZ1 which helps a bit.
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    10-08-2017 08:02 PM
  20. azcruz's Avatar
    Great picture! What phone/camera took this?
    The Huawei P9. Thanks!
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    10-09-2017 01:26 AM
  21. azcruz's Avatar
    My relationship with iOS 11 has ended. I'm back to 10 on my 6. And i want a new Android phone with MirrorLink and ANT+
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    10-09-2017 01:29 AM
  22. worldspy99's Avatar
    My relationship with iOS 11 has ended. I'm back to 10 on my 6. And i want a new Android phone with MirrorLink and ANT+
    I'm glad to not have entered into a relationship with iOS 11 on all my fruit stand offerings.
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    10-09-2017 08:07 AM
  23. libra89's Avatar
    My relationship with iOS 11 has ended. I'm back to 10 on my 6. And i want a new Android phone with MirrorLink and ANT+
    I don't blame you. I don't know what happened but iOS 11 seems to be a mess. Even people who are quick to upgrade have downgraded back to iOS 10.

    Apparently Apple decided to resign 10.3.3 only for the 6s, which is telling imo.
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    10-09-2017 08:36 AM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I don't blame you. I don't know what happened but iOS 11 seems to be a mess. Even people who are quick to upgrade have downgraded back to iOS 10.

    Apparently Apple decided to resign 10.3.3 only for the 6s, which is telling imo.
    I don't know why updates work for some and are dreadful for others. My iPhone 8 works flawlessly but it's riding a new CPU that was optimized for this version. Fine, I get that. But my iPad Mini is the 3rd gen and it runs as well as the iPhone. Maybe better. The short time I spent with the SE was also uneventful.

    Am I just that lucky?

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    10-09-2017 08:47 AM
  25. libra89's Avatar
    I don't know why updates work for some and are dreadful for others. My iPhone 8 works flawlessly but it's riding a new CPU that was optimized for this version. Fine, I get that. But my iPad Mini is the 3rd gen and it runs as well as the iPhone. Maybe better. The short time I spent with the SE was also uneventful.

    Am I just that lucky?

    Sent from my HP Elite x3 on mTalk
    You might be. I'm good staying parked on 10.3.3. After all, I recently decided to update from iOS 9.3.5 on my SE. I didn't want to but some of my apps became buggy.
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    10-09-2017 09:07 AM
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