1. worldspy99's Avatar
    I am going to listen to the same track on the Pixel 2, Essential and V30 using the same headphones. For Pixel 2 and Essential I will use the OEM dongles and V30 I don't need a dongle. Oddly enough I left my really nice headphones home.
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    12-12-2017 11:29 AM
  2. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Essential is/was a nice device. I listen to music a lot in the car with my kid, it's something that's important to me. There's no contest with the V30, everything else sounds drab.

    And since I parked a lot of money in the devices last month, it's time to cash out the chips.
    Understood. Good luck with that.
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    12-12-2017 11:30 AM
  3. worldspy99's Avatar
    I'm most curious about the DAC on the V30 Vs that on the V20. I love the DAC on the V20, since it drives my headphones better than using a standalone FiiO Q1 DAC and a USB adapter with other devices.
    Okay so I did a bit of digging around. V20 DAC is slightly worse than the V30. Mostly it takes care of some distortion and offers a range of equalizers. I wouldn't say that you are missing out a lot though. The V20 DAC is still ahead of a lot of other devices. I do want to compare the sound output from the iPhone X as for some reason Apple audio output isn't shabby usually. I will do that later since I don't have the iPhone dongle handy.
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    12-12-2017 11:32 AM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    Typing this on the iPad Pro with a Logitech BT keyboard. I can get used to this. Also no snooping by work when I spend time on forums.
    12-12-2017 11:34 AM
  5. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Work iPhone met NYC concrete just now - from the holster no less. Case and tempered glass took one for the team, especially the tempered glass.
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    12-12-2017 11:53 AM
  6. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Work iPhone met NYC concrete just now - from the holster no less. Case and tempered glass took one for the team, especially the tempered glass.
    That's why I buy a two pack. Will swap it out and keep things moving.
    12-12-2017 12:03 PM
  7. worldspy99's Avatar
    Work iPhone met NYC concrete just now - from the holster no less. Case and tempered glass took one for the team, especially the tempered glass.
    Damn, I hope the rest of the phone is fine. Hopefully, those two items are a relatively cheap fix compared to the device itself.
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    12-12-2017 12:03 PM
  8. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Damn, I hope the rest of the phone is fine. Hopefully, those two items are a relatively cheap fix compared to the device itself.
    Phone is fine. A mini scuff, but that's it. I'll confirm later.
    12-12-2017 12:04 PM
  9. worldspy99's Avatar
    Okay, so here is a short audio output comparison from the Essential (with it's dongle), Pixel 2 (with the Google dongle) and LG V30 (headphone jack). I used my Sennheiser HD202 headphones for the comparison test.

    I listened to Who can it be now from Men at Work since it has a great saxophone sound in it that can get distorted easily.

    3. Essential - decent sound but a bit flat, output is low and volume needs to be cranked up a bit.
    2. Pixel 2 - Sounds better than Essential even at lower volume setting.
    1. LG V30 - Sounds so much clearer, you can feel the fidelity in the overall sound, clarity in the vocals and just the right amount of bass.
    12-12-2017 12:12 PM
  10. libra89's Avatar
    Phone is fine. A mini scuff, but that's it. I'll confirm later.
    Wow. I was scared for you. Phew.
    12-12-2017 12:17 PM
  11. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Okay, so here is a short audio output comparison from the Essential (with it's dongle), Pixel 2 (with the Google dongle) and LG V30 (headphone jack). I used my Sennheiser HD202 headphones for the comparison test.

    I listened to Who can it be now from Men at Work since it has a great saxophone sound in it that can get distorted easily.

    3. Essential - decent sound but a bit flat, output is low and volume needs to be cranked up a bit.
    2. Pixel 2 - Sounds better than Essential even at lower volume setting.
    1. LG V30 - Sounds so much clearer, you can feel the fidelity in the overall sound, clarity in the vocals and just the right amount of bass.
    Wish you had a USB-C headphones to test here so you could talk about the audio difference that way vs the dongle....
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    12-12-2017 12:36 PM
  12. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Wow. I was scared for you. Phew.


    Visuals. Case is OK, phone is OK. Screen protector is screwed.
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    12-12-2017 12:40 PM
  13. worldspy99's Avatar
    Wish you had a USB-C headphones to test here so you could talk about the audio difference that way vs the dongle....
    Only reasonably cheap ones are Xiaomi via Gearbest and slow boat from China.

    I think #donglelife it is.
    12-12-2017 12:41 PM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Only reasonably cheap ones are Xiaomi via Gearbest and slow boat from China.

    I think #donglelife it is.
    I respectfully disagree. I've got a pair for under $10 I'm using for the past few months. The sound is OK - wired headphones via 3.5mm sound a little better - but I guess since your ears are better than mine, I wanted to hear your feedback. (I know they're not available but the black ones are more the same price as the Xiaomi - the frist gen Xiaomis, that is)

    ZINSOKO Type-C Ceramic Corded Earphones with CLDA Hi-Fi Stereo Sound, Ergonomic In-Ear Design, Passive Noise-Isolation for Smartphones, Tablets, Notebooks (White) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1678PQ...pUvbUpU3724050
    12-12-2017 12:54 PM
  15. libra89's Avatar
    Since you have another screen protector, that's awesome that this is it \o/
    12-12-2017 01:05 PM
  16. worldspy99's Avatar
    I respectfully disagree. I've got a pair for under $10 I'm using for the past few months. The sound is OK - wired headphones via 3.5mm sound a little better - but I guess since your ears are better than mine, I wanted to hear your feedback. (I know they're not available but the black ones are more the same price as the Xiaomi - the frist gen Xiaomis, that is)

    ZINSOKO Type-C Ceramic Corded Earphones with CLDA Hi-Fi Stereo Sound, Ergonomic In-Ear Design, Passive Noise-Isolation for Smartphones, Tablets, Notebooks (White) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1678PQ...pUvbUpU3724060
    These one's are not available on Amazon anymore.
    Also since I started using the Sennheiser and then the CX-5 and occasionally the Bose SoundLink headphones, I don't like the simple in ear ones. The in ear ones that I like are Audio Technica and even those are not USB-C. But I will try and get a pair to try out probably sooner than later.
    12-12-2017 01:23 PM
  17. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Sounds like UK weather in France.
    The weather is a bit wacky this year. Lots of France has had snow and we're getting lots of rain.

    It is winter after all...
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    12-12-2017 01:43 PM
  18. Sport Driver's Avatar
    I hate this weather. We had about 20 cm of snow on Saturday, Sunday morning it was -10C, yesterday when I was going home it was 13C, raining with powerful wind, it was heavy rain this morning and around 10C whole day. Tomorrow we are expecting snow again. I hate this weather, that is genuinely not normal...
    12-12-2017 01:59 PM
  19. libra89's Avatar
    I hate this weather. We had about 20 cm of snow on Saturday, Sunday morning it was -10C, yesterday when I was going home it was 13C, raining with powerful wind, it was heavy rain this morning and around 10C whole day. Tomorrow we are expecting snow again. I hate this weather, that is genuinely not normal...
    Ugh snow can be a pain sometimes. It sounds like it is really one for you.
    12-12-2017 02:23 PM
  20. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I hate this weather. We had about 20 cm of snow on Saturday, Sunday morning it was -10C, yesterday when I was going home it was 13C, raining with powerful wind, it was heavy rain this morning and around 10C whole day. Tomorrow we are expecting snow again. I hate this weather, that is genuinely not normal...
    Man I feel for you. I was ecstatic this morning that it was 46 degrees (Fahrenheit) finally. I got to wear a long sleeve shirt for a change.

    Sent from my Idol 4S on mTalk
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    12-12-2017 02:24 PM
  21. Sport Driver's Avatar
    Meh I like snow, but I would prefer it to stay, it's now completely gone. I hate rain and wind at the same time.
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    12-12-2017 02:25 PM
  22. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Got stuck a mandatory meeting...that was a snore. Now they have some mixer with cheap drinks...I need some "Hooray Beer!" and some ribs.

    I'm just tired and not as interested in things right now.
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    12-12-2017 04:02 PM
  23. worldspy99's Avatar
    I am up to my eyeballs in training to updates to procedures and taking quizzes. I need a cup of coffee and a stretch break!
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    12-12-2017 04:28 PM
  24. worldspy99's Avatar
    New fire about 0.5 miles away. We are being evacuated again. Groan, this is getting old!
    12-12-2017 06:37 PM
  25. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    New fire about 0.5 miles away. We are being evacuated again. Groan, this is getting old!
    Be safe, man.
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    12-12-2017 06:42 PM
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