1. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    App selection is a moot point when you can have multiple instances of IE running on the surface at the same time, especially when a lot of the apps on ipad are mainly website wrappers anyway. Ignoring office you've still got the massive bonus of remote desktop - I can sit here at work and play steam games via my home pc on my RT at lunchtime - or quite happily run any of my home software. You can be productive on an ipad too just one thing at a time. The biggest differentiator between the two I believe is the search and share functions on 8.1. Nothing currently touches what MS have managed to achieve there but its never mentioned in any reviews.
    That's the biggest issue you have with reviewers. They're blinded by the more 'common' tablets. They don't see the overall picture or don't understand it (more likely). But at the same time they are going by what 'normal' people want and need out of a tablet. Unfortunately anything that 'appears' complex will not appeal to the 'average' person, regardless how easy it is to use. This is the problem we have. The average IT user likes things simple. Apple claims to be simple. That's the problem.
    10-23-2013 04:07 AM
  2. Chregu's Avatar
    App selection is a moot point when you can have multiple instances of IE running on the surface at the same time, especially when a lot of the apps on ipad are mainly website wrappers anyway. Ignoring office you've still got the massive bonus of remote desktop - I can sit here at work and play steam games via my home pc on my RT at lunchtime - or quite happily run any of my home software. You can be productive on an ipad too just one thing at a time. The biggest differentiator between the two I believe is the search and share functions on 8.1. Nothing currently touches what MS have managed to achieve there but its never mentioned in any reviews.
    How many people out there want a tablet to use it to remotely control their computer at home? I wouldn't, my computer is turned off when I'm not at home, energy consumption is a big factor here. Also, this IE can run every homepage argument was brought up many times when Windows Phone had a terrible app selection. It's just not the same, a homepage is not integrated, it can't take advantage of the hardware, and the worst, you don't get notifications.

    But again, everybody needs to buy what fits him or her best. And I had the impression reviewers were more questioning Microsoft's decision to not build an Atom tablet instead of ARM. I feel the same in this regard.
    10-23-2013 04:08 AM
  3. LMZR's Avatar
    I just got that exact same script and reported it to tech staff.
    I was getting the same thing.
    10-23-2013 04:08 AM
  4. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Desktop mode is really underated and gives you a lot of options as a power user. File explorer is a massive boost that's sorely missing as a modern ui app - until they work out how to execute that properly desktop mode needs to stay.
    I personally have no issues with desktop mode, I'm just being the devils advocate. I'm higly computer literate, unlike most IT reviewers or users.
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    10-23-2013 04:08 AM
  5. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    How many people out there want a tablet to use it to remotely control their computer at home? I wouldn't, my computer is turned off when I'm not at home, energy consumption is a big factor here. Also, this IE can run every homepage argument was brought up many times when Windows Phone had a terrible app selection. It's just not the same, a homepage is not integrated, it can't take advantage of the hardware, and the worst, you don't get notifications.

    But again, everybody needs to buy what fits him or her best. And I had the impression reviewers were more questioning Microsoft's decision to not build an Atom tablet instead of ARM. I feel the same in this regard.
    I would remote desktop to home and would have love MS if they added remote for WP at the same time they released it for Android and IOS.
    10-23-2013 04:19 AM
  6. martinmc78's Avatar
    How many people out there want a tablet to use it to remotely control their computer at home? I wouldn't, my computer is turned off when I'm not at home, energy consumption is a big factor here. Also, this IE can run every homepage argument was brought up many times when Windows Phone had a terrible app selection. It's just not the same, a homepage is not integrated, it can't take advantage of the hardware, and the worst, you don't get notifications.

    But again, everybody needs to buy what fits him or her best. And I had the impression reviewers were more questioning Microsoft's decision to not build an Atom tablet instead of ARM. I feel the same in this regard.
    How many people out there know its possible or how easy it is with apps like teamviewer? If they aren't told they wont know and no reviews have ever mentioned it = ipad win. My computer isn't on either its in sleep mode but set to wake on lan and remote connection. Will concede the IE argument that you don't get a proper app experience, notifications etc. And yes MS do seem to make odd choices at times with hardware but they must be doing it for a reason.
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    10-23-2013 04:24 AM
  7. martinmc78's Avatar
    I would remote desktop to home and would have love MS if they added remote for WP at the same time they released it for Android and IOS.
    Use splashtop or teamviewer apps. TBH its not a great experience doing remote from your phone to PC.
    10-23-2013 04:28 AM
  8. martinmc78's Avatar
    Just been into PC world round the corner to look at the Surface2. Have the purple type covers in stock - feel strangely drawn to buy one.
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    10-23-2013 04:33 AM
  9. teckris's Avatar
    WPCentral is having Tech Problems??

    oh wait.. is it WPC Black to release??
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    10-23-2013 04:50 AM
  10. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Can't use the forums from the computer stuck using the app. Won't be able to post much. :(
    10-23-2013 04:54 AM
  11. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Forums are a mess... Must be a massive failure of some sort.
    10-23-2013 05:17 AM
  12. martinmc78's Avatar
    Forums are a mess... Must be a massive failure of some sort.
    Im not having any problems or errors
    10-23-2013 05:19 AM
  13. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Im not having any problems or errors
    In browser or app? For some reason the app is fine but using a browser it's a complete mess. The formatting is completely gone.
    10-23-2013 05:22 AM
  14. martinmc78's Avatar
    In browser or app? For some reason the app is fine but using a browser it's a complete mess. The formatting is completely gone.
    Browser - both instances of the website I have open are fine.
    10-23-2013 05:27 AM
  15. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Browser - both instances of the website I have open are fine.
    it's fixed now. It was out for some time.
    10-23-2013 05:29 AM
  16. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I'm still getting that error though so no idea how stable things are.
    10-23-2013 05:30 AM
  17. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Just been into PC world round the corner to look at the Surface2. Have the purple type covers in stock - feel strangely drawn to buy one.
    My wife is still annoyed that the purple wireless shell never came out for the 820. You can get a purple shell but it's from Australia. That's just silly.

    I might be able to convince her to get a Surface because of this though. However, paying almost 500 for a 32GB tablet with a keyboard is a bit pricey.
    10-23-2013 05:33 AM
  18. Shinigami910's Avatar
    My wife is still annoyed that the purple wireless shell never came out for the 820. You can get a purple shell but it's from Australia. That's just silly.

    I might be able to convince her to get a Surface because of this though. However, paying almost 500 for a 32GB tablet with a keyboard is a bit pricey.
    The surface is definitely worth the price tag :)
    10-23-2013 05:41 AM
  19. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    The surface is definitely worth the price tag :)
    Thing is I already own a tablet. It wasn't cheap either but I can't justify buying a new one as the old one still suits our needs.
    10-23-2013 05:43 AM
  20. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    The surface is definitely worth the price tag :)
    I'm going to purchase a Surface 2 64GB version today order reserved to pick up and pay!
    N_LaRUE and MSFTisMIA like this.
    10-23-2013 05:46 AM
  21. Shinigami910's Avatar
    I'm going to purchase a Surface 2 64GB version today order reserved to pick up and pay!
    Nice!! I have the surface rt so i wont be getting a 2 anytime soon :(
    10-23-2013 05:51 AM
  22. martinmc78's Avatar
    I'm going to purchase a Surface 2 64GB version today order reserved to pick up and pay!
    Yeah im really tempted to head to Argos and pick one up myself on the buy now pay in 6 months - will help soften the blow a bit saving a little every month - means my GF can have my RT so I no longer have to share it
    N_LaRUE, BIGPADDY and MSFTisMIA like this.
    10-23-2013 05:57 AM
  23. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm going to purchase a Surface 2 64GB version today order reserved to pick up and pay!
    thought you were getting the Nokia 2520, but I guess not...let us know how you like the surface...I'm still waiting patiently for my Asus T100 to arrive...
    10-23-2013 05:58 AM
  24. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Morning folks. Had a fight with the GF last night. Didn't review for my stressful mid-term today. So it will be an extra grinding day as I will try to review between patients. Will check in during the night shift after the carnage...
    N_LaRUE and Chregu like this.
    10-23-2013 05:59 AM
  25. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    thought you were getting the Nokia 2520, but I guess not...let us know how you like the surface...I'm still waiting patiently for my Asus T100 to arrive...
    Nope was disappointed with 2520 and don't like the design, the only good thing is the screen.
    10-23-2013 06:05 AM
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