1. libra89's Avatar
    HMD is just remaking a few of the classic feature phones, that's all. I don't think the 8 Sirocco is worth it at that price, honestly. In theory, it has all the stuff I'd like, but not at that opening price.
    I agree with you on both points.
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    02-25-2018 06:47 PM
  2. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I agree with you on both points.
    The most noteworthy point from HMD's announcement: All their 2018 models are Android One phones. Which makes me wonder out aloud about how their 2017 models will get updates.

    Makes me slightly pause on the Nokia 8 now...
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    02-25-2018 08:14 PM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    So, the two cons for me with the Nokia 8 Sirocco: price and no headphone jack.

    Otherwise, for a 16:9 phone, as long as the cameras don't suck, it looks to be very solid. People will question the S835 chip, but this isn't the full 2018 flagship, so I'm OK with it.

    I still would try the Nokia 8 though.
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    02-25-2018 08:26 PM
  4. worldspy99's Avatar
    Well that was a long weekend. I'm tired. Hopefully I will be able to get some sleep on the plane.
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    02-26-2018 07:23 AM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    Well that was a long weekend. I'm tired. Hopefully I will be able to get some sleep on the plane.
    I hope that you do too.
    02-26-2018 07:46 AM
  6. Sport Driver's Avatar
    It is -10C outside and snowing. I don't recall moving to Sweden in the last week...
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    02-26-2018 08:55 AM
  7. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Why is Android such a fustercluck? If I designate a default app for opening PDFs, why does it insist on asking me every. single. time. which. app. I. want. to. use?

    Samsung S8+ - INCOMING!!!!
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    02-26-2018 08:56 AM
  8. fatclue_98's Avatar
    It is -10C outside and snowing. I don't recall moving to Sweden in the last week...
    You must be in Buffalo, say hi to @TgeekB
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    02-26-2018 08:57 AM
  9. TgeekB's Avatar
    You must be in Buffalo, say hi to @TgeekB
    It was 58 yesterday.
    That’s like 99 for you! 🤣
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    02-26-2018 09:04 AM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Currently in Andy's BETA. Will provide updates later.

    So far, I like the changes and the phone feels smoother.
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    02-26-2018 09:08 AM
  11. libra89's Avatar
    Now that it's Monday morning and all of the Sony press has been posted, I have thoughts about the XZ2 series, but mainly the Compact.

    I love the greens for both the XZ2 and XZ2 Compact. The lack of wireless charging on the XZ2C doesn't bother me but I get why it would bother some. Wireless charging is just not my thing. Looking at PhoneArena's size compare, it is barely shorter than the Galaxy A3 I currently have, which means it should be nice to use. On paper, I should be mostly sold but I'm not (missing headphone jack aside).

    There's still no OIS in the camera. Is it worth hundreds more (over what I paid for my Galaxy A3, that is) to have better performance but still deal with the same thing I dealt with on the XZ1 Compact? I don't think so. While I would enjoy the performance, I fear being let down again by the cameras. I'm glad that they made another small phone after all but it's probably going to be around $600 and it probably isn't worth it.

    The amount of time (read: not as much as before) that I have nowadays has forced me to really think about if it's worth it to try a device and deal with returning it or trying to sell it.
    Last edited by libra89; 02-26-2018 at 09:29 AM.
    02-26-2018 09:18 AM
  12. libra89's Avatar
    Currently in Andy's BETA. Will provide updates later.

    So far, I like the changes and the phone feels smoother.
    That's good that it feels smoother. I'm looking forward to your updates.
    02-26-2018 09:28 AM
  13. raycpl's Avatar
    At work, I'm tidying up stuff I've been doing for years, and passing the reins to new blood. Glad of the change and moving on different challenges...

    ... !
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    02-26-2018 09:43 AM
  14. fatclue_98's Avatar
    It was 58 yesterday.
    That’s like 99 for you! 🤣
    The actual temperature “in the shade” will be close to 90 by Thursday. The “feels like” already seems like 99. The climate change deniers need to book a flight to the 305 for a change of heart.
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    02-26-2018 09:49 AM
  15. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    That's good that it feels smoother. I'm looking forward to your updates.
    The radios are an issue on this device, even on 7.1. That would be the biggest reason it would get delegated or sold for me.
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    02-26-2018 10:44 AM
  16. libra89's Avatar
    The radios are an issue on this device, even on 7.1. That would be the biggest reason it would get delegated or sold for me.
    That's very understandable. I have heard various people including MrMobile mention issues with the radio, and that makes me wonder how you have been dealing with it all of this time and if it has been an actual annoyance for you at all.
    02-26-2018 11:32 AM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    That's very understandable. I have heard various people including MrMobile mention issues with the radio, and that makes me wonder how you have been dealing with it all of this time and if it has been an actual annoyance for you at all.
    It flares up for data, especially. Calls are a bit delayed to connect, but once they do, they're fine.

    It's just one of those things that hit on the experience.
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    02-26-2018 11:58 AM
  18. worldspy99's Avatar
    Had a tough flight today. Never in my entire flying tenure have I met someone as rude as the jerk who occupied the middle seat today. He just would not let me rest my arm on any portion of the armrest. This despite me asking him a few times. Didn't know people like this existed.
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    02-26-2018 12:10 PM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Had a tough flight today. Never in my entire flying tenure have I met someone as rude as the jerk who occupied the middle seat today. He just would not let me rest my arm on any portion of the armrest. This despite me asking him a few times. Didn't know people like this existed.
    Were you wearing your MAGA hat again? I done told you a thousand times not to wear that!!!
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    02-26-2018 02:13 PM
  20. fatclue_98's Avatar
    If it weren't so damned expensive, my S8+ would be flying in this general direction. Right into the tracks of our useless MetroFail. Notice there isn't one solitary train in either direction for miles.

    20180226_180803781_ios.jpg
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    02-26-2018 02:16 PM
  21. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    If it weren't so damned expensive, my S8+ would be flying in this general direction. Right into the tracks of our useless MetroFail. Notice there isn't one solitary train in either direction for miles.

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    Nice view. I wanted to take that rail last time I was in Magic City.
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    02-26-2018 03:35 PM
  22. TgeekB's Avatar
    The actual temperature “in the shade” will be close to 90 by Thursday. The “feels like” already seems like 99. The climate change deniers need to book a flight to the 305 for a change of heart.
    Yup. The northern U.S. will be growing as the years go by and people can’t take the heat any more.
    02-26-2018 04:41 PM
  23. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Yup. The northern U.S. will be growing as the years go by and people can’t take the heat any more.
    Double yup, myself included. My daughter will age out of the school system in 2 years (22) and there are zero adult programs for autistic people in the Sunshine State. New York state and Pennsylvania are the targets for now. The cold don’t bother me none and I’ve driven plenty in snow and ice. Not in Flori-Duh of course.
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    02-26-2018 04:52 PM
  24. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    First test picture on Andy's phone BETA. img_20180226_174556.jpg
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    02-26-2018 04:58 PM
  25. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Double yup, myself included. My daughter will age out of the school system in 2 years (22) and there are zero adult programs for autistic people in the Sunshine State. New York state and Pennsylvania are the targets for now. The cold don’t bother me none and I’ve driven plenty in snow and ice. Not in Flori-Duh of course.
    If Ol Donald has his way, the cuts will reach to those programs too...
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    02-26-2018 04:59 PM
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