1. libra89's Avatar
    The one thing I agreed with MKBHD about was Apple not making a red model with a black front.
    I can get why Apple chose not to do that, but that would have been pretty sick to see. The few phones I have seen over the years with red backs and black fronts have been really striking.
    03-10-2018 10:46 PM
  2. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I can get why Apple chose not to do that, but that would have been pretty sick to see. The few phones I have seen over the years with red backs and black fronts have been really striking.
    Oh well. I did like the 7. For some reason the screen on the 7 looks better than the one on the 8...to my eyes at least.
    03-10-2018 10:47 PM
  3. libra89's Avatar
    Oh well. I did like the 7. For some reason the screen on the 7 looks better than the one on the 8...to my eyes at least.
    That's possible, I really wouldn't know. My favorite thing about the 8 for the 3 days I had it was the TrueTone display option. I'm probably in the minority but I prefer the processing of photos on the 7 over the 8. The 8 just feels very different and appears to have less natural colors when it comes to that.

    I plan to hang out with this 7 for a bit hopefully...
    A bit probably has a different meaning for you, of course.
    03-10-2018 10:52 PM
  4. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    That's possible, I really wouldn't know. My favorite thing about the 8 for the 3 days I had it was the TrueTone display option. I'm probably in the minority but I prefer the processing of photos on the 7 over the 8. The 8 just feels very different and appears to have less natural colors when it comes to that.

    I plan to hang out with this 7 for a bit hopefully...
    A bit probably has a different meaning for you, of course.
    Well, good luck with that.

    The growing trend now is OEMs may have a harder time starting this year selling stuff. The iPhone X isn't a bad device at all, but outside on being on a carrier to get it subsidized, there's nothing in it that's worth the price tag. As much as I respect the Note line, there's nothing in there that's worth that price tag either. In fact, none of the high end phones from Sony, LG, Samsung, HTC (U11+ here) and Apple are worth their asking price.

    It's why Swappa or certain other sites is a boon for savvy shoppers and a trainwreck for enthusiasts who swap phones alot. The tech isn't jumping in those great leaps that we used to see, so it's better sometimes for folks to hang onto their devices longer. Which is what makes after sales software support even more important for Android OEMs.
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    03-11-2018 08:37 AM
  5. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    More Pixie dust shots...the camera is solid...mvimg_20180310_190525.jpg
    03-11-2018 10:28 AM
  6. worldspy99's Avatar
    More Pixie dust shots...the camera is solid...Click image for larger version. 

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    I'm glad to hear that.
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    03-11-2018 12:10 PM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm glad to hear that.
    Yeah, the camera is worth the hype to some degree. The lack of manual mode is bitterly disappointing.
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    03-11-2018 01:07 PM
  8. libra89's Avatar
    Well, good luck with that.

    The growing trend now is OEMs may have a harder time starting this year selling stuff. The iPhone X isn't a bad device at all, but outside on being on a carrier to get it subsidized, there's nothing in it that's worth the price tag. As much as I respect the Note line, there's nothing in there that's worth that price tag either. In fact, none of the high end phones from Sony, LG, Samsung, HTC (U11+ here) and Apple are worth their asking price.

    It's why Swappa or certain other sites is a boon for savvy shoppers and a trainwreck for enthusiasts who swap phones alot. The tech isn't jumping in those great leaps that we used to see, so it's better sometimes for folks to hang onto their devices longer. Which is what makes after sales software support even more important for Android OEMs.
    I totally agree with you on all counts. I don't know about Samsung but I feel like I'm seeing this for Apple. I watched a video yesterday of a guy who has used iPhones for 10 years and recently switched to the Pixel 2 XL. One of his reasons was that the pricing was crazy.

    As for the luck, thanks. It's my only workable option at this point. Everything else has a noticeable compromise that is annoying and as you said, not really worth the money. I considered the first Pixel but decided against it, as it isn't for me to try for a 4th time lol.
    03-11-2018 03:20 PM
  9. libra89's Avatar
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    Nice shot! That looks good though. Also glad to hear about that camera generally working out for you.
    03-11-2018 03:21 PM
  10. libra89's Avatar
    I lasted a whole week with my experiment. The carrying 2 phones thing occasionally had me mixing up phones but it did what it was meant to do and I learned from it (this experiment). Surprisingly, I generally felt less anxious after the first day and that feeling remained throughout the week. Now I have to figure out how to use apps better. I have an idea but I'll have to see if it can work out. I hope it does though...

    I kind of find myself liking the separation actually since it made me look at my phone less actually. I found that since I was reaching of it less, I had to deal with waiting in line, appointments, etc rather than seeing what has changed, if anything across the medias. (I know this is a given, but considering how I am, this is important.) Also I'm considering what apps to bring back and what ones to leave.
    03-11-2018 03:45 PM
  11. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I totally agree with you on all counts. I don't know about Samsung but I feel like I'm seeing this for Apple. I watched a video yesterday of a guy who has used iPhones for 10 years and recently switched to the Pixel 2 XL. One of his reasons was that the pricing was crazy.

    As for the luck, thanks. It's my only workable option at this point. Everything else has a noticeable compromise that is annoying and as you said, not really worth the money. I considered the first Pixel but decided against it, as it isn't for me to try for a 4th time lol.
    As for Samsung, since you asked...

    https://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...xy-S8_id103131
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    03-11-2018 03:49 PM
  12. libra89's Avatar
    Wow, you called this one! 30% is noticeable.
    03-11-2018 03:51 PM
  13. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Wow, you called this one! 30% is noticeable.
    It's not surprising, because it's a tock cycle (like the S versions for Apple), and if you read stuff recently...2017 was the first year that global smartphone shipments declined over the previous year.

    OEMs, Apple included, are still chasing the ghosts of Apple's iPhone 3GS - iPhone 5 super profits.
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    03-11-2018 03:57 PM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I lasted a whole week with my experiment. The carrying 2 phones thing occasionally had me mixing up phones but it did what it was meant to do and I learned from it (this experiment). Surprisingly, I generally felt less anxious after the first day and that feeling remained throughout the week. Now I have to figure out how to use apps better. I have an idea but I'll have to see if it can work out. I hope it does though...

    I kind of find myself liking the separation actually since it made me look at my phone less actually. I found that since I was reaching of it less, I had to deal with waiting in line, appointments, etc rather than seeing what has changed, if anything across the medias. (I know this is a given, but considering how I am, this is important.) Also I'm considering what apps to bring back and what ones to leave.
    Well, it appears you're working through this the best way you can.

    I can relate, which led me to get a tablet and a smartwatch to offload doing everything therefore being on my phone all the time. The checking habit is annoying, but with using the watch it cut mine down significantly.
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    03-11-2018 04:16 PM
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    Yeah, the camera is worth the hype to some degree. The lack of manual mode is bitterly disappointing.
    I thought that early on as well. But after a year + with the Pixel series, I don't miss it.
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    03-11-2018 04:24 PM
  16. worldspy99's Avatar
    It's not surprising, because it's a tock cycle (like the S versions for Apple), and if you read stuff recently...2017 was the first year that global smartphone shipments declined over the previous year.

    OEMs, Apple included, are still chasing the ghosts of Apple's iPhone 3GS - iPhone 5 super profits.
    I think Apple is still raking in the money hand over fist just fine.
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    03-11-2018 04:25 PM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I thought that early on as well. But after a year + with the Pixel series, I don't miss it.
    If the auto mode is top 3 in the business, you won't miss it if you don't normally use it.
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    03-11-2018 04:26 PM
  18. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I think Apple is still raking in the money hand over fist just fine.
    Through apps, but not on hardware. Apple's game was always using the hardware as a gateway to their software ecosystem...

    ...but my point was there was a time were Apple was getting good cash on the hardware.
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    03-11-2018 04:27 PM
  19. libra89's Avatar
    Well, it appears you're working through this the best way you can.

    I can relate, which led me to get a tablet and a smartwatch to offload doing everything therefore being on my phone all the time. The checking habit is annoying, but with using the watch it cut mine down significantly.
    That's smart that you did that. I can understand you on doing that now. I mean, I kind of understood before but I had no idea that was one of the reasons why you did that. It's hard but I find that with myself, I am guilty of using my phone as a crutch in unfamiliar and/or uncomfortable situations. I'm not going to say that it resolved my anxiety but it was nice to feel less anxious. I also felt like my focus was better too, weirdly enough.

    It also sounds like it worked out well with your watch since you also still get calls and texts through it right? I might look into that. On that note, how has the Pixel been with your watch so far?
    03-11-2018 04:34 PM
  20. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    That's smart that you did that. I can understand you on doing that now. I mean, I kind of understood before but I had no idea that was one of the reasons you did that. It's hard but I find that with myself, I am guilty of using my phone as a crutch in unfamiliar and/or uncomfortable situations. I'm not going to say that it resolved my anxiety but it was nice to feel less anxious. I also felt like my focus was better too, weirdly enough.

    It also sounds like it worked out well with your watch since you also still get calls and texts through it right? I might look into that. On that note, how has the Pixel been with your watch so far?
    Battery life on the watch has been sub par. I think it's the Oero update more than anything else.

    I still check my phone periodically in unfamiliar or uncomfortable situations - you're not alone at all with this. But with the watch, I do that less than I used to.
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    03-11-2018 04:36 PM
  21. libra89's Avatar
    Battery life on the watch has been sub par. I think it's the Oero update more than anything else.

    I still check my phone periodically in unfamiliar or uncomfortable situations - you're not alone at all with this. But with the watch, I do that less than I used to.
    Ugh that's a bummer about the battery life there. I believe that it is probably the update too.

    That's good to know that I'm not alone. Nice, it sounds like you figured out a system that works for you. I hope to get there too.
    03-11-2018 04:42 PM
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    Battery life on the watch has been sub par. I think it's the Oero update more than anything else.

    I still check my phone periodically in unfamiliar or uncomfortable situations - you're not alone at all with this. But with the watch, I do that less than I used to.
    I feel as if I'm out for a couple of days I miss something. Which watch are you referring to?
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    03-11-2018 05:33 PM
  23. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I feel as if I'm out for a couple of days I miss something. Which watch are you referring to?
    The same Huawei watch 2. How is yours?
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    03-11-2018 05:35 PM
  24. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Ugh that's a bummer about the battery life there. I believe that it is probably the update too.

    That's good to know that I'm not alone. Nice, it sounds like you figured out a system that works for you. I hope to get there too.
    Oreo has been a bit funny battery wise overall, from what I was reading. I think the Huawei fitness app is screwing with the battery too, so I have to look into this further as well.

    Trust me, there's a whole generation of people having issues with constantly checking their phones, even if there aren't any notifications. That's where we are right now.
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    03-11-2018 05:37 PM
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    The same Huawei watch 2. How is yours?
    Better than the Apple Watch that's for sure. I'll usually have about 50% left at the end of the day which is more than I can say for the Fruity watch and if memory serves, better than the Gear S2.

    I charge all my devices every night so as long as they get me through the entire day I'm good. The ONLY watch I've had that lasts more than one day has been the Fitbit Blaze but the functionality is barren compared to the rest.
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    03-11-2018 05:45 PM
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