1. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Some last minute notes since last time:

    1) No complaints with the V35. As much as I loved that no frills feel of the G7, I prefer the V30 design a bit more. Just wished it was the 128 GB model. I would have kept the G7 in spite of the battery issues if it had the US radios. If I had to do it over again I would have bought the V35 on Fi for Black Friday last year, even though it was overpriced.

    2) Gear Sport is fine. I like it more than the Gear Watch. Has a nice weight and the rating bezel is as satisfying to use as I thought. Software I'm still indifferent about. The Watch Active is just too small and too much like the Android Wear watches I have. May need to get a replacement though as it looks like I got a lemon.

    3) Will likely get a 128 GB Pixel 2 later in the year to collect. I think Google really screwed the pooch by not going with 6GB RAM setup for the Pixel 3, among other things. I would have offered the 3XL with 6/256GB ROM only and the 3 in 6/128 and 6/256 variants. That way you can sell the 3A models for 4/64GB, with the size being the difference maker. I'd buy a 2XL over a 3A XL. Somehow I don't think the Pixel 4 will fare better than the 3 this year.

    4) Not getting a G8. Of the two LG's for this year, I'd get a V50 before the G8. I just don't believe in paying earlier adopter price for LG's because LG doesn't believe enough in their phones to properly market and software support them.

    5) Likely not getting a Nokia 9. Would like to collect one, but as long as I have the G7, I cannot do that.

    6) Likely will pass on the XZ3. If Sony disappears from the market I may troll for one to collect. Same goes for Razer, even though if given the chance, I'd trade my G7 for a Razer 2 easily.
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    05-01-2019 10:50 PM
  2. libra89's Avatar
    Some last minute notes since last time:

    1) No complaints with the V35. As much as I loved that no frills feel of the G7, I prefer the V30 design a bit more. Just wished it was the 128 GB model. I would have kept the G7 in spite of the battery issues if it had the US radios. If I had to do it over again I would have bought the V35 on Fi for Black Friday last year, even though it was overpriced.

    2) Gear Sport is fine. I like it more than the Gear Watch. Has a nice weight and the rating bezel is as satisfying to use as I thought. Software I'm still indifferent about. The Watch Active is just too small and too much like the Android Wear watches I have. May need to get a replacement though as it looks like I got a lemon.

    3) Will likely get a 128 GB Pixel 2 later in the year to collect. I think Google really screwed the pooch by not going with 6GB RAM setup for the Pixel 3, among other things. I would have offered the 3XL with 6/256GB ROM only and the 3 in 6/128 and 6/256 variants. That way you can sell the 3A models for 4/64GB, with the size being the difference maker. I'd buy a 2XL over a 3A XL. Somehow I don't think the Pixel 4 will fare better than the 3 this year.

    4) Not getting a G8. Of the two LG's for this year, I'd get a V50 before the G8. I just don't believe in paying earlier adopter price for LG's because LG doesn't believe enough in their phones to properly market and software support them.

    5) Likely not getting a Nokia 9. Would like to collect one, but as long as I have the G7, I cannot do that.

    6) Likely will pass on the XZ3. If Sony disappears from the market I may troll for one to collect. Same goes for Razer, even though if given the chance, I'd trade my G7 for a Razer 2 easily.
    Thank you for the updates. It sounds like you found the right fit with the V35. I'm glad that you decided to go for it after all, as it seems like it can have a good balance of updates and cameras.

    Ugh that sucks that you'll probably need a replacement. For you, I can get why the Galaxy Watch Active is too small as you do watches with bigger (or "normal") sizes.

    I agree, with the Pixel 3a actually becoming a thing, it would be nice to get a Pixel 2 for sure. I don't blame you on passing up the G8 and Nokia 9.

    I can get you on the Razer 2, as I saw a recent review about it and how nice of a phone it generally seems to be. I also understand passing on the XZ3. I don't get Sony.
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    05-01-2019 11:37 PM
  3. Sport Driver's Avatar
    It is really nice to be able to get to this in about an hour drive from home.
    05-02-2019 12:30 PM
  4. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Thank you for the updates. It sounds like you found the right fit with the V35. I'm glad that you decided to go for it after all, as it seems like it can have a good balance of updates and cameras.

    Ugh that sucks that you'll probably need a replacement. For you, I can get why the Galaxy Watch Active is too small as you do watches with bigger (or "normal") sizes.

    I agree, with the Pixel 3a actually becoming a thing, it would be nice to get a Pixel 2 for sure. I don't blame you on passing up the G8 and Nokia 9.

    I can get you on the Razer 2, as I saw a recent review about it and how nice of a phone it generally seems to be. I also understand passing on the XZ3. I don't get Sony.
    For me, I narrowed it down to a few truths for me:

    1) If I could only keep three phones, no matter cost...they would be a Mate 20 Pro (just ahead of the Mate RS), LG V50 and a XZ3. I'd actually use the XZ3 as the daily driver, with the V50 for the wired audio duties and back up camera and the Mate 20 Pro as the primary camera. Sony has the best Bluetooth audio of the three, so on days when I don't want to use the wired, I'm OK there. LG's Bluetooth audio is too quiet in terms of volume; paired with the RHAs it's a bad mix of the really clean but too quiet sound for my commute. Plus, I still love the in hand feel of the XZ3. And the single camera is very solid.

    2) if I didn't care as much about water resistance, my daily driver would be a dual SIM jade green Mi Mix 3, 256 GB model. Their audio over Bluetooth is solid and their audio over dongle is very, very good. Plus, I would never use the selfie camera, leaving me with all screen all the time. The dual cameras are solid too.

    I just would pass on the Nokia 9 and XZ3 as I don't have the extra space where I'm staying or cash to get them. I'd trade my G7+ for one (especially the XZ3) as the backup, but for their current prices I'm not interested. There are better values out now (Mate 20 Pro at the right price). Maybe later in the year, but as of right now - no, barring a trade.
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    05-02-2019 08:13 PM
  5. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    It is really nice to be able to get to this in about an hour drive from home.[IMG=1008x756]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190502/b29a5a39b003119ca7e8264b66b6bc63.jpg[/url]
    This is a nice shot.
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    05-02-2019 08:13 PM
  6. worldspy99's Avatar
    An absolutely fantastic article.
    Fascinating.

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/gamma...-sun-20190501/
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    05-03-2019 08:47 PM
  7. fatclue_98's Avatar
    This is a rare occurrence in Miami. I haven’t seen one in about 5 years.

    05-03-2019 08:47 PM
  8. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    This is a rare occurrence in Miami. I haven’t seen one in about 5 years.

    [IMG=1350x1800]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190504/9e90c5b01dbae99935b7fd5dc523cca8.jpg[/url]
    Are there two pots of gold though? That is the question.
    05-03-2019 09:00 PM
  9. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    So I think I'm gonna be a dumbass and seriously have 1 phone I like from 2015-2018 and 2 phones I actually use. As an old school enthusiast, I feel I need to own something from Nokia, HTC, Sony, RIM. I kinda liked old school scrappy Samsung too.

    Now, if I did this the Qualcomm chip way it would be:

    2013: Moto X (SD 4 Pro)
    2014: Oneplus One (SD801)
    2015: Lumia 950XL (SD810)
    2016: HTC 10 (SD820)
    2017: Essential phone (SD835)

    If I did it how I'd really want:

    2013: Lumia 925, Moto X
    2014: Oneplus One, Moto Maxx/Moto X 2nd gen, Xperia Z3
    2015: LG G4/LG Flex 2, Microsoft Lumia 950XL
    2016: Xioami Mi 5, HTC 10, Xiaomi Mi Note 2
    2017: Pixel 2, Essential phone, Nokia 8
    2018: LG G7, Xperia XZ2.

    If I'm taking purely favorites:

    2013: Moto X
    2014: Xperia Z3
    2015: LG G4
    2016: Xiaomi Mi 5 (slightly ahead of the Honor 8)
    2017: Essential phone

    Man, I've used a lot of phones. Sigh.
    05-03-2019 09:21 PM
  10. worldspy99's Avatar
    So I think I'm gonna be a dumbass and seriously have 1 phone I like from 2015-2018 and 2 phones I actually use. As an old school enthusiast, I feel I need to own something from Nokia, HTC, Sony, RIM. I kinda liked old school scrappy Samsung too.

    Now, if I did this the Qualcomm chip way it would be:

    2013: Moto X (SD 4 Pro)
    2014: Oneplus One (SD801)
    2015: Lumia 950XL (SD810)
    2016: HTC 10 (SD820)
    2017: Essential phone (SD835)

    If I did it how I'd really want:

    2013: Lumia 925, Moto X
    2014: Oneplus One, Moto Maxx/Moto X 2nd gen, Xperia Z3
    2015: LG G4/LG Flex 2, Microsoft Lumia 950XL
    2016: Xioami Mi 5, HTC 10, Xiaomi Mi Note 2
    2017: Pixel 2, Essential phone, Nokia 8
    2018: LG G7, Xperia XZ2.

    If I'm taking purely favorites:

    2013: Moto X
    2014: Xperia Z3
    2015: LG G4
    2016: Xiaomi Mi 5 (slightly ahead of the Honor 8)
    2017: Essential phone

    Man, I've used a lot of phones. Sigh.
    I have had the fortune of sampling everything on your list except Nokia 8 and Xperia XZ2.

    I'm pretty sure Mr. Clue has sampled every single item on your list.
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    05-03-2019 10:11 PM
  11. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I have had the fortune of sampling everything on your list except Nokia 8 and Xperia XZ2.

    I'm pretty sure Mr. Clue has sampled every single item on your list.
    Yeah, I remembered you used a G Flex 2. God, we've used a ton of phones, eh? If I have enough beers in me, I'll dig up the thread I posted here if all the stuff I've sampled over the years. List is a mile long.
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    05-03-2019 10:18 PM
  12. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Heh.

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    05-04-2019 11:56 AM
  13. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Yeah, I remembered you used a G Flex 2. God, we've used a ton of phones, eh? If I have enough beers in me, I'll dig up the thread I posted here if all the stuff I've sampled over the years. List is a mile long.
    Let's do this. Keep in mind, this is from memory so I may be missing a few items. It is also done not in the order of usage. This is the hybrid sample and extended ownership list. No tablets or smartwatches either.

    Blackberry (BBOS): 7100T, 8100 Pearl, 8810, Storm 9500, Storm 2 9550, Tour 9630, Bold 9700, Bold 9650, Curve 8900, Curve 8520, Torch 9810

    Sony Ericsson: M600, W980, K600, K750, K810, P910, P990, W810, T68, T100

    Sony (Windows): Xperia X1

    Sony (Android): Xperia Z3, Z Ultra, XZ2

    HTC (Windows): HTC Touch, Touch Diamond, Touch Diamond Pro, Kaiser 2, Touch HD

    HTC (WP) : Titan, Mozart, 8X, 8S, One M8

    HTC (Android): 10, Sensation, Nexus One, G1, G2 Magic, Desire Z, M7

    Moto (Android): Moto X, X2, Maxx

    Moto (featured): Razr V3

    Samsung (featured): SGH-D900

    Samsung (Symbian): Innov8

    Samsung (WP): Focus S, Ativ S

    Samsung (Android): Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus

    Essential phone

    Oneplus One

    Google Pixel 2

    Microsoft 950 XL

    Nextbit Robin

    Nokia (Symbian): N79, E63, E71, E72

    Nokia (WP): Lumia 1020, 1520, 810, 920, 822, 930, 925

    Nokia (Android): 8

    Nokia (featured): 3310, 7210, 7250

    LG: G4, V20, G7+, V35, Nexus 4, Nexus 5

    Huawei: Honor 8

    Xiaomi: Mi 5, Mi Mix 2, Mi Note 2

    Apple: iPhone, 3G, 3GS, 4, 4S, 6S

    Sidekick 2

    Siemens: CF75, C45 (very 1st phone purchased)

    I think Mr. Clue, and 99 are in this ballpark. Heaven knows Bunky passed this years ago. Still, some list...
    05-04-2019 12:52 PM
  14. worldspy99's Avatar
    Nice list MIA.
    The engineer in me has an OCD complex so I will check my spreadsheet next week and I see what I have sampled, what I have used on the spare line ( if there are family photos on cloud from these devices it counts) and what have been the daily drivers.

    My sampling rate took off in late 2014 so I won't have that many early devices on the list and no BB devices.
    05-04-2019 01:49 PM
  15. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Nice list MIA.
    The engineer in me has an OCD complex so I will check my spreadsheet next week and I see what I have sampled, what I have used on the spare line ( if there are family photos on cloud from these devices it counts) and what have been the daily drivers.

    My sampling rate took off in late 2014 so I won't have that many early devices on the list and no BB devices.
    You may have as many because you've tried some wider range of Chinese phones too. I'm curious to see your list.
    05-04-2019 07:56 PM
  16. libra89's Avatar
    Had a great day trip with friends and that was just what I needed.
    05-04-2019 08:00 PM
  17. worldspy99's Avatar
    Wide angle lens on the S10+ comes in quite handy.
    05-04-2019 09:21 PM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    You may have as many because you've tried some wider range of Chinese phones too. I'm curious to see your list.
    I’d like to see his list too. Like you I’m relying on fading memory myself so here goes.

    BBOS: 7100, 8800, 9703, 9650, 9900, 9700, 9810 (current stable), Style and Curve 9300.

    BB OS10: Z10, Z30, Classic and Passport. PlayBook too (current stable).

    PalmOS: Treo 650, Treo 700p, Treo 680 (current stable), Treo 755p and Centro.

    Symbian: Nokia E73, Nokia N8, Nokia E7, Nokia X6, Nokia 6650 Fold (current stable) and Nokia 808 PureView.

    webOS: Pre, Pre Plus, Pre2, Pre3, Pixi and TouchPad (current stable).

    Windows Mobile (legacy CE based):Palm Treo 700wx (current stable), Treo 750, HTC Touch, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC HD2, HTC Imagio, HTC X7501, HTC Tilt 2, HTC Excalibur, Motorola ES400 and Sony Xperia X1.

    Windows Phone 7: HTC Titan, HTC Titan 2, HTC Trophy (current stable), HTC HD7, Samsung Focus, Samsung Focus S, Samsung Omnia W7, Dell Venue Pro (IMO the most beautiful phone ever), Nokia Lumia 900 and LG Quantum.

    Windows Phone 8/8.1: Samsung Ativ SE, Samsung Ativ S Neo, HTC One M8, Nokia Lumia 620, 625, 820, 920, 925, Icon, 1520 and 1320. Microsoft Lumia 640 and 640XL.

    Windows 10: Acer Liquid Jade Primo (current stable), Alcatel Idol 4S, Alcatel Fierce XL, HP Elite x3, Microsoft Lumia 950 and 950XL.

    Apple iPhone: 3, 3GS, 4, 4S, 5, 5S, 5C, SE (current stable), 6 Plus, 6S Plus, 7Plus (current stable), 8, 8 Plus and XR.

    Every iPad except new Mini 2019, 9.7 Pro, 10.5 Pro, 11 Pro and 12.9 3rd generation.

    Android: BlackBerry Priv, BlackBerry DTEK 60, BlackBerry KeyONE, BlackBerry Key2 LE, HTC Dream, HTC Sensation, HTC Droid Incredible, HTC Status, HTC Droid DNA, Moto Droid X, Moto Droid X2, Moto Cliq 2, Droid 1, 2, 3 and 4, Moto Z3 Play, Samsung GS4, Samsung GS6 Edge +, Samsung GS7 Edge, Samsung GS8+, Samsung Galaxy Notes 1, 2, 3 and 4, Sony X Performance, Sony XZ, Sony Ultra 1, 2 and 3, Sony ZX2 and ZX2 Compact (current stable).

    Feature Phones: Moto RAZR v3, Moto Ultra Classic, StarTAC and a host of other AMP-based phones from the early to mid 90s.

    I know for a fact I’ve forgotten a s**t ton of phones.


    Edit - Yep, searching my drawer I found an old iPaq 910c and it reminded me of another WinMo HP h6925, Glisten and h6300. I won’t even try to remember all the PDAs I had, or have, like my Palm T/X.
    Last edited by fatclue_98; 05-04-2019 at 10:16 PM.
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    05-04-2019 09:40 PM
  19. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I’d like to see his list too. Like you I’m relying on fading memory myself so here goes.

    BBOS: 7100, 8800, 9703, 9650, 9900, 9700, 9810 (current stable), Style and Curve 9300.

    BB OS10: Z10, Z30, Classic and Passport. PlayBook too (current stable).

    PalmOS: Treo 650, Treo 700p, Treo 680 (current stable), Treo 755p and Centro.

    Symbian: Nokia E73, Nokia N8, Nokia E7, Nokia X6, Nokia 6650 Fold (current stable) and Nokia 808 PureView.

    webOS: Pre, Pre Plus, Pre2, Pre3, Pixi and TouchPad (current stable).

    Windows Mobile (legacy CE based):Palm Treo 700wx (current stable), Treo 750, HTC Touch, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC HD2, HTC Imagio, HTC X7501, HTC Tilt 2, HTC Excalibur, Motorola ES400 and Sony Xperia X1.

    Windows Phone 7: HTC Titan, HTC Titan 2, HTC Trophy (current stable), HTC HD7, Samsung Focus, Samsung Focus S, Samsung Omnia W7, Dell Venue Pro (IMO the most beautiful phone ever), Nokia Lumia 900 and LG Quantum.

    Windows Phone 8/8.1: Samsung Ativ SE, Samsung Ativ S Neo, HTC One M8, Nokia Lumia 620, 625, 820, 920, 925, Icon, 1520 and 1320. Microsoft Lumia 640 and 640XL.

    Windows 10: Acer Liquid Jade Primo (current stable), Alcatel Idol 4S, Alcatel Fierce XL, HP Elite x3, Microsoft Lumia 950 and 950XL.

    Apple iPhone: 3, 3GS, 4, 4S, 5, 5S, 5C, SE (current stable), 6 Plus, 6S Plus, 7Plus (current stable), 8, 8 Plus and XR.

    Every iPad except new Mini 2019, 9.7 Pro, 10.5 Pro, 11 Pro and 12.9 3rd generation.

    Android: BlackBerry Priv, BlackBerry DTEK 60, BlackBerry KeyONE, BlackBerry Key2 LE, HTC Dream, HTC Sensation, HTC Droid Incredible, HTC Status, HTC Droid DNA, Moto Droid X, Moto Droid X2, Moto Cliq 2, Droid 1, 2, 3 and 4, Moto Z3 Play, Samsung GS4, Samsung GS6 Edge +, Samsung GS7 Edge, Samsung GS8+, Samsung Galaxy Notes 1, 2, 3 and 4, Sony X Performance, Sony XZ, Sony Ultra 1, 2 and 3, Sony ZX2 and ZX2 Compact (current stable).

    Feature Phones: Moto RAZR v3, Moto Ultra Classic, StarTAC and a host of other AMP-based phones from the early to mid 90s.

    I know for a fact I’ve forgotten a s**t ton of phones.


    Edit - Yep, searching my drawer I found an old iPaq 910c and it reminded me of another WinMo HP h6925, Glisten and h6300. I won’t even try to remember all the PDAs I had, or have, like my Palm T/X.
    Great list. I figured you were over a C-Note and you didn't disappoint. There is a lot of overlap and some really distinctive differences too.
    05-04-2019 10:18 PM
  20. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    It is really nice to be able to get to this in about an hour drive from home.[IMG=1008x756]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190502/b29a5a39b003119ca7e8264b66b6bc63.jpg[/url]
    Ooh, that's beautiful.
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    05-05-2019 04:19 AM
  21. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    This is a rare occurrence in Miami. I haven’t seen one in about 5 years.

    [IMG=1350x1800]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190504/9e90c5b01dbae99935b7fd5dc523cca8.jpg[/url]
    Wow! That's gorgeous. I've never seen a double rainbow .
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    05-05-2019 04:20 AM
  22. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Some random mixed shots from the V35. First is a G Cam port, second is the LG app. Yes, groceries were from While Foods (aka "whole paycheck").

    The biggest issue has been finding a good G cam port as some take good pictures but are Nokia 9 before first update slow.

    img_20190505_110229.jpeg20190505_110223.jpeg20190505_110214.jpegimg_20190505_110202.jpegimg_20190505_105957.jpeg20190505_105918.jpeg
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    05-05-2019 07:39 PM
  23. raycpl's Avatar
    Been using a Nokia8.1 for about a week... Wasn't too hard to move on from the 950XL. It takes a bit to get use to those extra steps to do something. Not to mention how navigation is not so one-hand friendly
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    05-05-2019 09:26 PM
  24. raycpl's Avatar
    Some shots
    Nokia stock camera first, then Gcam port
    05-05-2019 09:36 PM
  25. worldspy99's Avatar
    Some shots
    Nokia stock camera first, then Gcam port
    [IMG=756x1008]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190506/0c9a7691c0994539f9316677a26f314a.jpg[/url][IMG=756x1008]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190506/eb1c88dcda15261e70bb626b5dcd56e3.jpg[/url][IMG=1008x756]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190506/be1da791e0bcd55add8bb6d3650d79f3.jpg[/url][IMG=1008x756]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190506/3dcdc97d91ea69872951707ce2a60c97.jpg[/url][IMG=1008x756]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190506/d5472b436d2f911dfdc405a54bec86e4.jpg[/url][IMG=1008x756]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190506/2d91569c1cec6b57419200c636ff68f2.jpg[/url]
    Dynamic range is great with the Gcam port.
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    05-05-2019 09:38 PM
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