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  1. libra89's Avatar
    There is a problem with house prices and rents are all over the world. As housing has become a commodity the prices have sky rocketed and the rents along with it. In the mean time a lot of people's income haven't grown with it. Many people have incomes that have flat-lined since 2008 while others have had to take on extra jobs just to get by.

    Doesn't help that there seems to be an issue with prices increasing on everything along with this. Food, utilities, etc.

    I think society needs a change from the bottom up because the top just seems completely lost. Their idea of 'living' is completely at odds with reality.

    The change I suggest doesn't require violence either. Doesn't have to be. Just a change in consumer habits and community thinking. I know this idea of jobs, career and other things have been drilled into us from childhood but I think we need to start off with thinking about other things. Simple things like food, shelter, community support and safety nets.

    The only way humans can move forward is if we change our thinking but I guess it's hard to do this after doing things this way for so long.
    Well said. It is frustrating that it is this way. While looking at places, it seems like the choice is kinda tough at this time. I'm hoping for a reasonable middle ground to appear for me.
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    05-27-2019 09:53 AM
  2. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Cool! I was going to ask how it went with the camera.
    Still testing. I posted last night's dinner in the eats thread.
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    05-27-2019 09:53 AM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Hope all the US folks have a rest filled Memorial day. To the rest of the world...

    It's a Monday, so you know how to get through that.
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    05-27-2019 09:55 AM
  4. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    There is a problem with house prices and rents are all over the world. As housing has become a commodity the prices have sky rocketed and the rents along with it. In the mean time a lot of people's income haven't grown with it. Many people have incomes that have flat-lined since 2008 while others have had to take on extra jobs just to get by.

    Doesn't help that there seems to be an issue with prices increasing on everything along with this. Food, utilities, etc.

    I think society needs a change from the bottom up because the top just seems completely lost. Their idea of 'living' is completely at odds with reality.

    The change I suggest doesn't require violence either. Doesn't have to be. Just a change in consumer habits and community thinking. I know this idea of jobs, career and other things have been drilled into us from childhood but I think we need to start off with thinking about other things. Simple things like food, shelter, community support and safety nets.

    The only way humans can move forward is if we change our thinking but I guess it's hard to do this after doing things this way for so long.
    Mr. Trump would argue that the US economy overall is doing well.

    Unemployment is low, stock market is doing well. Yet, some of his electorate are struggling to get by (and so are others), wages are stagnant in many brackets, health care costs are competing with rent in a race to see which one can get the most expensive at the fastest rate.

    Key word there - OVERALL. It's kinda like the hotel we are staying at now. It's a old converted mansion...so overall it looks nice and sophisticated (especially the lawns and the areas for catering). Once you get into the rooms though, that's where you see some of the warts.

    Both sides are correct, so what facts do you choose to believe?
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    05-27-2019 10:01 AM
  5. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Mr. Trump would argue that the US economy overall is doing well.

    Unemployment is low, stock market is doing well. Yet, some of his electorate are struggling to get by (and so are others), wages are stagnant in many brackets, health care costs are competing with rent in a race to see which one can get the most expensive at the fastest rate.

    Key word there - OVERALL. It's kinda like the hotel we are staying at now. It's a old converted mansion...so overall it looks nice and sophisticated (especially the lawns and the areas for catering). Once you get into the rooms though, that's where you see some of the warts.

    Both sides are correct, so what facts do you choose to believe?
    When 'employment' means just having a job, whether you actually get paid or not, is not really employment but they consider it in their statistics that way. That's when I decided the employment rate is a bunch of rubbish.

    Then there's underemployment.

    As for the so called 'economy' what exactly is it and what good is it for anyone if you don't benefit from it? The stock market to me is not an indication of how well the economy is doing. It's an indication of how rich people get richer. Which is all that's happening. When the stock market crashes again, and it will, it will make the last 'financial crisis' look like a walk in the park. It's the 'average' person is who is going to suffer most in this like the last time. Poor people will suffer but when you go from having something to nothing you feel it more.

    The stock market was made for the purpose of investing in companies to help them grow. These days it's all about greed.

    I think the rich people of this generation don't have any morals at all. That's my personal opinion. Their frivolousness seems nice when things seem good but I think it will wear thin. At least to anyone with a brain. But then we are talking about a populace who gave up on thinking rationally...
    Last edited by N_LaRUE; 05-27-2019 at 10:27 AM.
    05-27-2019 10:16 AM
  6. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    The only time when societies change from the bottom up is when the oppressed revolt and size power.

    With the conglomerates and their enablers still dicking around with the environment, one could see situations where a bad natural disaster impacting food and water supply could cause such an uprising. Rising seas could cause the abandonment of smaller nations. If other places (Europe, US) are ******** about immigration now, WTF would they do in those circumstances?

    Things are a lot more on a knife's edge that people give credit for.
    I can appreciate that in the past things were done like that but considering how far people have been pushed I don't see the revolt happening any time soon. TV, streaming and sports have all done their jobs very well to curb the hostility towards the elite. Rome has returned it seems. Distraction is a good tool.

    My point that I was getting at is that we as a society continue to wait for top down solutions. There's no need to. If we as a society and more importantly as a local community start to work together then things can change for the better. I'm not talking about anarchy here. I'm talking about us as humans stop being so ******* selfish and start realising we need each other.

    The lessons that was drilled into me when I was young was to share. Unfortunately society sees sharing as a commodity now to. That's how I know we've gone too far now.

    Our whole world economy is built on the idea of greed and how much we can get from the other person. How about we change that a little? At least locally?

    It actually doesn't take that much to change things but it does take someone to start.
    05-27-2019 10:25 AM
  7. worldspy99's Avatar
    Sea lions frolicking and chilling at the Santa Cruz wharf.
    05-27-2019 10:38 AM
  8. worldspy99's Avatar
    Santa Cruz Boardwalk.
    We had a lot of fun, played air hockey, ball toss (kid loves it and won a few prizes) and rode the roller coaster.
    05-27-2019 10:40 AM
  9. worldspy99's Avatar
    A lighthouse erected in 2002. What a tourist trap!
    05-27-2019 10:42 AM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    When 'employment' means just having a job, whether you actually get paid or not, is not really employment but they consider it in their statistics that way. That's when I decided the employment rate is a bunch of rubbish.

    Then there's underemployment.

    As for the so called 'economy' what exactly is it and what good is it for anyone if you don't benefit from it? The stock market to me is not an indication of how well the economy is doing. It's an indication of how rich people get richer. Which is all that's happening. When the stock market crashes again, and it will, it will make the last 'financial crisis' look like a walk in the park. It's the 'average' person is who is going to suffer most in this like the last time. Poor people will suffer but when you go from having something to nothing you feel it more.

    The stock market was made for the purpose of investing in companies to help them grow. These days it's all about greed.

    I think the rich people of this generation don't have any morals at all. That's my personal opinion. Their frivolousness seems nice when things seem good but I think it will wear thin. At least to anyone with a brain. But then we are talking about a populace who gave up on thinking rationally...
    You and I know this. The people who Mr. Trump target don't care about this. That's the problem. They will get by either on privilege or resource. I've (and others who look like me) got to survive regardless...we always have to.
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    05-27-2019 11:00 AM
  11. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    A great example as what is happening for the critical votes in the US...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/27/u...gtype=Homepage
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    05-27-2019 12:23 PM
  12. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I can appreciate that in the past things were done like that but considering how far people have been pushed I don't see the revolt happening any time soon. TV, streaming and sports have all done their jobs very well to curb the hostility towards the elite. Rome has returned it seems. Distraction is a good tool.

    My point that I was getting at is that we as a society continue to wait for top down solutions. There's no need to. If we as a society and more importantly as a local community start to work together then things can change for the better. I'm not talking about anarchy here. I'm talking about us as humans stop being so ******* selfish and start realising we need each other.

    The lessons that was drilled into me when I was young was to share. Unfortunately society sees sharing as a commodity now to. That's how I know we've gone too far now.

    Our whole world economy is built on the idea of greed and how much we can get from the other person. How about we change that a little? At least locally?

    It actually doesn't take that much to change things but it does take someone to start.
    Unfortunately, sharing has now been equated with “socialism” by the right and their minions, aka MAGA. The unemployment figures are an easy to distract from the fact that many are low-paying service sector jobs. Real wealth for the middle class comes from a healthy tax base. I’m sorry but a barista at Starbucks and his/her roommate isn’t contributing much. The Reagan Revolution did its job well, sweet dreams.
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    05-27-2019 12:27 PM
  13. TgeekB's Avatar
    Unfortunately, sharing has now been equated with “socialism” by the right and their minions, aka MAGA. The unemployment figures are an easy to distract from the fact that many are low-paying service sector jobs. Real wealth for the middle class comes from a healthy tax base. I’m sorry but a barista at Starbucks and his/her roommate isn’t contributing much. The Reagan Revolution did its job well, sweet dreams.
    We are a country that only cares about ourselves individually. We don’t care if our neighbor is starving as long as we have 3 cars, 5 TV’s and landscapers mowing our lawns. If you don’t have those things it’s because “you didn’t work hard enough”. Gun violence, walls and name calling are all we are interested in.

    I just came back from a trip to Europe. Though not perfect, I always get a sense they have a better idea of what community is. They enjoy their lives more without as many material possessions. There is not as much of a divide between the haves and have nots. We all have a short time on this planet and, the older I get, the more I see how wasteful this country is.

    JMHO of course.
    05-27-2019 01:21 PM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Unfortunately, sharing has now been equated with “socialism” by the right and their minions, aka MAGA. The unemployment figures are an easy to distract from the fact that many are low-paying service sector jobs. Real wealth for the middle class comes from a healthy tax base. I’m sorry but a barista at Starbucks and his/her roommate isn’t contributing much. The Reagan Revolution did its job well, sweet dreams.
    Sadly, this is fair. I roll my eyes at my taxes each month, but don't complain a ton as I can argue I contribute both ways with the taxes and type of work I do.

    The US transitioned over to a service economy years ago. The reviews of place I'm staying at for the wedding all said one thing - the service of the (mostly Hispanic frontline) staff is excellent. You wonder if these people are being properly taken care of as far as wages and opportunities to build a better life. I wish we had put money into bolstering these service economy jobs, but businesses here are more interested in cutting cuts to make profits.
    05-27-2019 01:21 PM
  15. libra89's Avatar
    Ah, so this site came back now? lol

    Also, the Honor 20 Pro content is not interesting to me because I question the point of it with the current situation. Are all of these alliances and companies really going to take back their stance? That's not a real question...
    05-27-2019 09:29 PM
  16. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Mods, I had a few pictures pending...if you can approve them...
    05-27-2019 11:33 PM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I took this one as a part of the ceremony. It was by the water. img_20190527_180226.jpeg
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    05-27-2019 11:37 PM
  18. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    The top was regular, the second was the night mode. You be the judge...img_20190527_223219.jpegimg_20190527_223233.jpeg
    05-27-2019 11:38 PM
  19. worldspy99's Avatar
    There's a really neat looking hotel in the middle of nowhere in Santa Nella, CA called Mission de Oro. Finally grabbed a decent picture (almost 7 years later since I first noticed it).
    05-28-2019 12:07 AM
  20. worldspy99's Avatar
    Spotted a couple of snails in a bush on Sunday morning.
    05-28-2019 12:10 AM
  21. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    The wedding was nice. I liked the versatility of the Mate's camera in auto mode. I used night mode, portrait, wide angle, telephoto at 3x and 5x zoom. Most of my shots I was pleased with.

    The oversharpened shots I don't like at all. Not a fan of the app layout. But it's still a camera worth exploring. Video was OK.

    Glad I have it as the camera phone.

    P.S. iPhone XR is a very nice camera. An old colleague took a nice portrait style shot of me and the gf in one take. I get why people like the auto mode.
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    05-28-2019 12:13 AM
  22. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'll try again...img_20190527_112204.jpegimg_20190527_112208.jpegimg_20190527_112217.jpegimg_20190527_112233.jpeg
    05-28-2019 12:15 AM
  23. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    This was were we stayed. Some old philanthropist's mansion turned hotel. img_20190527_114613.jpegimg_20190527_114705.jpegimg_20190527_114401.jpeg
    05-28-2019 12:16 AM
  24. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I just came back from a trip to Europe. Though not perfect, I always get a sense they have a better idea of what community is. They enjoy their lives more without as many material possessions. There is not as much of a divide between the haves and have nots. We all have a short time on this planet and, the older I get, the more I see how wasteful this country is.

    JMHO of course.
    Not sure where in Europe you were but I can tell you the UK is very much a materialistic society and has been for a very long time. It's known as a country of shoppers. They even call themselves that. The divide between the have and have not is huge in the UK.

    In other countries of Europe I have lived in and visited the divide between the have and have not is there like many other countries. The tensions are there. The main difference is most EU countries have good safety nets in place whereas the US does not.

    As for community. Those problems are there but I think the safety nets that are in place help with that a bit. It's not perfect as you say but I can say with some certainty that rural areas especially are feeling the issues more than anywhere else and big cities always have their problems.

    Sadly some European countries don't realise how good they have it (France for example) and don't take advantage of the things they have.

    However, you are right. I find European countries are more family oriented which makes them more community oriented on the whole. They like the more simpler things in life and have passions that are varied and interesting. It's part of the reason why we stay in Europe rather than return to Australia or Canada.
    Last edited by N_LaRUE; 05-28-2019 at 04:53 AM.
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    05-28-2019 02:37 AM
  25. raycpl's Avatar
    Damn!!! Nothing like cutting a spear of an old aloevera... and smearing the cool goooey thingy on my face and hair.. First time for everything, right!!
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    05-28-2019 04:25 AM
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