1. raycpl's Avatar
    Thought I'd pull out my old 830 and mess about with it on a lazy Sunday afternoon..
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    06-09-2019 06:01 AM
  2. raycpl's Avatar
    Wow!! Back to Denim.
    and all the older W8.1 apps include Here maps.
    I haven't used WRT in ages. I had problem with the 830 camera. it stopped working all of a sudden, I had tried hard resets. Even tried WRT, but it stopped recognising the phone and so
    the process was incomplete. Until now, half a year later on the updated WRT.

    Rats. The camera still doesn't work. It's faulty hardware after all.
    At this point, I'll just have fun revisiting W8.1/Denim...
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    06-09-2019 06:21 AM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I still miss WP 8.0. That is all.
    06-09-2019 09:13 AM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    Wow!! Back to Denim.
    and all the older W8.1 apps include Here maps.
    I haven't used WRT in ages. I had problem with the 830 camera. it stopped working all of a sudden, I had tried hard resets. Even tried WRT, but it stopped recognising the phone and so
    the process was incomplete. Until now, half a year later on the updated WRT.

    Rats. The camera still doesn't work. It's faulty hardware after all.
    At this point, I'll just have fun revisiting W8.1/Denim... [IMG=567x797]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190609/ef3381b0fcc1bccdc41500cadff7b1b8.jpg[/url]
    Aw dang, that sucks that the camera still doesn't work. Holding the 830 must have felt nice though. I wanted one but went for it's cousin (730/735) released around the same time for it's size.
    06-09-2019 09:18 AM
  5. raycpl's Avatar
    Aw dang, that sucks that the camera still doesn't work. Holding the 830 must have felt nice though. I wanted one but went for it's cousin (730/735) released around the same time for it's size.
    The underside...a very muted pastel orange!!!



    Never had a 730/735 but we did have a yellow 720 and that was a darn cute phone. It feels really good in the palms, my missus really love that phone.
    06-09-2019 10:26 AM
  6. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    LG frustrates me at times. Sigh.
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    06-09-2019 10:28 AM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    The underside...a very muted pastel orange!!!

    [IMG=567x756]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190609/2cc471c1055e9d1f7c0f0370ff5549c2.jpg[/url]

    Never had a 730/735 but we did have a yellow 720 and that was a darn cute phone. It feels really good in the palms, my missus really love that phone.
    Had a 720 once. It was really nice. I always liked the 830, but it was just too underpowered for me and that's why I skipped it.
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    06-09-2019 10:43 AM
  8. libra89's Avatar
    LG frustrates me at times. Sigh.
    Why do you say that?
    06-09-2019 02:37 PM
  9. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Why do you say that?
    They are in good shape hardware wise. It is just some of their software decisions irk the hell out of me. As much as I grumble about certain things with the Mate 20 Pro, they nailed battery life and camera. On the Mate 20 Pro, I used to go two days comfortably between charges as I'm not on my phone as much these days.

    I pick up my V35 and barely start to push it and the battery falls like a stone. The G7 was the same way. It's little things like this that makes it harder to come back to them at times.
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    06-09-2019 04:53 PM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    06-09-2019 04:56 PM
  11. libra89's Avatar
    They are in good shape hardware wise. It is just some of their software decisions irk the hell out of me. As much as I grumble about certain things with the Mate 20 Pro, they nailed battery life and camera. On the Mate 20 Pro, I used to go two days comfortably between charges as I'm not on my phone as much these days.

    I pick up my V35 and barely start to push it and the battery falls like a stone. The G7 was the same way. It's little things like this that makes it harder to come back to them at times.
    Gotcha. In that case, I agree with you and I also don't understand. Two days sounds great to experience.
    06-09-2019 07:55 PM
  12. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Gotcha. In that case, I agree with you and I also don't understand. Two days sounds great to experience.
    It's giving me what I want, which is why I wanted a Mate 10 series or a Mate RS with the slightly smaller form factor. I doubt if LG knows what they're doing anymore. I keep seeing the damn G8 ads online and they always talk about Hand ID - the most inconsistent thing to display as a strength of the device.
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    06-09-2019 09:01 PM
  13. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I did think of one possibility for getting the X1 and it's a very small chance.

    I'm not a huge fan of contracts and the ones they have for current customers typically sucks. Here in France there's three major suppliers and several small ones. None are that great.

    So if I found a contract that wouldn't cost me a fortune and it came bundled with something I could sell (PS4 or headphones) then I may consider the X1. At this stage, however, I don't see this happening.
    06-10-2019 01:50 AM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I did think of one possibility for getting the X1 and it's a very small chance.

    I'm not a huge fan of contracts and the ones they have for current customers typically sucks. Here in France there's three major suppliers and several small ones. None are that great.

    So if I found a contract that wouldn't cost me a fortune and it came bundled with something I could sell (PS4 or headphones) then I may consider the X1. At this stage, however, I don't see this happening.
    I'm curious about the smaller X 1. Doubt they'll put wireless charging in there, but I could be wrong. At this point, it'll be hard to see some high end innovation - folding phones ain't it.
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    06-10-2019 08:41 AM
  15. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I'm curious about the smaller X 1. Doubt they'll put wireless charging in there, but I could be wrong. At this point, it'll be hard to see some high end innovation - folding phones ain't it.
    I can honestly say at this point in time I have no interest in folding phones. I get why people like them but I agree with you that it's a miss on the 'next innovation' in mobile technology.

    Not sure where things are headed though. I know you like wearables but Google seems not bothered.

    I think the smaller X1 would be good if they correct some of the things on the X1. Going by the renders I saw it appears they are correcting the camera position on the back. Also being a bit smaller means it's easier to use. Bigger battery would be nice too. Maybe throw in the 3.5mm jack?

    I doubt they'll do the wireless. They seem to have a problem with that extra millimeter for some reason.

    I sometimes think the 'portable' computer in your pocket is still a desire, though niche. I still think the mobile phone, though powerful, is too small a format. I know you can sort of do that with a smartphone but you know what I mean. I think Microsoft missed an opportunity. I'm not referring to the half baked idea of Continuum either.
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    06-10-2019 09:01 AM
  16. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I can honestly say at this point in time I have no interest in folding phones. I get why people like them but I agree with you that it's a miss on the 'next innovation' in mobile technology.

    Not sure where things are headed though. I know you like wearables but Google seems not bothered.

    I think the smaller X1 would be good if they correct some of the things on the X1. Going by the renders I saw it appears they are correcting the camera position on the back. Also being a bit smaller means it's easier to use. Bigger battery would be nice too. Maybe throw in the 3.5mm jack?

    I doubt they'll do the wireless. They seem to have a problem with that extra millimeter for some reason.

    I sometimes think the 'portable' computer in your pocket is still a desire, though niche. I still think the mobile phone, though powerful, is too small a format. I know you can sort of do that with a smartphone but you know what I mean. I think Microsoft missed an opportunity. I'm not referring to the half baked idea of Continuum either.
    Throw in a 3.5mm? You crazy? This is Sony we are talking about here. I doubt that it is coming back on the high end phones.

    Google has no clue what to do with Wear OS. It cannot convince Qualcomm to give a new chip, they're ****ed. And I have the tiles feature they added, which is useless because you have to swipe to the right only. Why not add two tiles to the left and right and make it fully customizable?

    I'm not sure where the new frontier is. I'm sure some people will be left behind that we know of as current OEMs.
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    06-10-2019 05:04 PM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm just slightly annoyed at my current router and modem combo. Have done a few factory resets so we will see what happens.
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    06-10-2019 09:36 PM
  18. libra89's Avatar
    I'm just slightly annoyed at my current router and modem combo. Have done a few factory resets so we will see what happens.
    I hope that will fix the issue for you.
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    06-10-2019 09:55 PM
  19. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I hope that will fix the issue for you.
    It didn't. Likely need to buy a new all in one. Don't support renting ISP equipment.
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    06-10-2019 10:56 PM
  20. worldspy99's Avatar
    Well that was a long day. Just landed in San Juan. Still need to drive to the hotel.
    06-10-2019 11:16 PM
  21. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Throw in a 3.5mm? You crazy? This is Sony we are talking about here. I doubt that it is coming back on the high end phones.

    Google has no clue what to do with Wear OS. It cannot convince Qualcomm to give a new chip, they're ****ed. And I have the tiles feature they added, which is useless because you have to swipe to the right only. Why not add two tiles to the left and right and make it fully customizable?

    I'm not sure where the new frontier is. I'm sure some people will be left behind that we know of as current OEMs.
    The 3.5mm was a bit of a joke... However considering Sony's position in the market a simple thing like that could make a difference.

    I guess if your main chip supplier isn't going to provide you with upgrades then you're sort of stuck. Maybe they'll have to look into making their own or push some maker to make it for them? That's if they want to keep making WearOS.

    The future is hard to predict because it's based on consumer mindset as much as technology. You can have the greatest idea but if consumers aren't into it then it's toast as we're well aware of. I guess that's democracy in a way.
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    06-11-2019 02:16 AM
  22. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I'm just slightly annoyed at my current router and modem combo. Have done a few factory resets so we will see what happens.
    Have you checked for new firmware? Depends on the age of your gear.

    Here in France you get the modem/router as part of the subscription. They call it a 'box' because it comes with everything you need for internet, telephone and TV.
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    06-11-2019 02:20 AM
  23. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Have you checked for new firmware? Depends on the age of your gear.

    Here in France you get the modem/router as part of the subscription. They call it a 'box' because it comes with everything you need for internet, telephone and TV.
    You get a box here as a part of your subscription, but it ain't free. You pay a monthly rental fee. The firmware is up to date. The setup just may be old and need replacing. I bought this router two years ago. It was running great until 3 weeks ago.
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    06-11-2019 06:56 AM
  24. worldspy99's Avatar
    View from the hotel room in Puerto Rico.
    06-11-2019 07:42 AM
  25. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    View from the hotel room in Puerto Rico. [IMG=1008x756]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190611/d21ca6be32ec19fb2d67b1f01585fb32.jpg[/url]
    Nice.

    Which phone is this?
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    06-11-2019 07:54 AM
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