1. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Yes, totally understand. These things cost fortune. And at that price they are making more than enough. All companies are since they went beyond the 1k price tag. I still like that they brought back the old iphone 5 frame style. I bet others follow suit....
    It's Sony. They were always overpriced.

    If I were looking at these two, I'm asking to bypass the cheaper, bigger phone with better audio, and battery life (V60 - $799 phone only) for a slimmer, higher res screen and maybe slighter better software updates (Xperia 1 II for $1200)?
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    03-25-2020 07:48 PM
  2. nate0's Avatar
    It's Sony. They were always overpriced.

    If I were looking at these two, I'm asking to bypass the cheaper, bigger phone with better audio, and battery life (V60 - $799 phone only) for a slimmer, higher res screen and maybe slighter better software updates (Xperia 1 II for $1200)?
    Well if you can handle a notch/hole in the screen go for it. I'd rather have an LG over a Sony but the design on the Xperia is what caught my eye mainly. Lately I've been wanting to try newer phones to find a keeper but they either cost too much or have a notch/hole punch. Anything above 200 is pushing it for me and ain't worth it in the end. If I'm not gonna make money off it with my photo expertise or do some crazy video that sells on YouTube then I don't need to waste the time or money. I can't justify paying that much more for anything to just sit on my couch with it and watch Netflix lol.
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    03-25-2020 08:17 PM
  3. nate0's Avatar
    Even though the predictable drop in phone sales occurred it was not enough to scare the makers yet. However in the next 6-12 months and as these next devices get released with the 8nm SD700 series chips, I suspect a bigger shift. Plus with the current crisis world wide. I wish people would have stopped buying the 1000 dollar phones already like 2 years ago though....
    03-25-2020 08:50 PM
  4. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Well if you can handle a notch/hole in the screen go for it. I'd rather have an LG over a Sony but the design on the Xperia is what caught my eye mainly. Lately I've been wanting to try newer phones to find a keeper but they either cost too much or have a notch/hole punch. Anything above 200 is pushing it for me and ain't worth it in the end. If I'm not gonna make money off it with my photo expertise or do some crazy video that sells on YouTube then I don't need to waste the time or money. I can't justify paying that much more for anything to just sit on my couch with it and watch Netflix lol.
    Xiaomi Mi 9, Huawei Mate 20 Pro, LG G7+ and LG V40. All have notches - and all are devices I currently own.

    Not saying I would buy either device. Just saying if I were looking to buy a bigger handset and these two were on the short list, I'd go with the LG. Sony's current aesthetics aren't worth the $400 difference to me.

    For pricing references, I can get a Pixel 3A/Mi 9T + V60 for the same price as a Xperia 1 II - likely included taxes all around. To drive the point home further, I can get a Pixel 3A + Mi 9T pro for the price of a Xperia 1, again taxes included. Or if you really want me to go "99 hustle" , I could get an unlocked G8 (refurbished) + Mi 9T (new) + Pixel 3A (new) for the cost of a new Xperia 1 - taxes included.

    As much as I like Sony, their pricing scheme has been off from as long as they've been restructuring the mobile division - 10 years and counting.
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    03-25-2020 09:27 PM
  5. nate0's Avatar
    Xiaomi Mi 9, Huawei Mate 20 Pro, LG G7+ and LG V40. All have notches - and all are devices I currently own.

    Not saying I would buy either device. Just saying if I were looking to buy a bigger handset and these two were on the short list, I'd go with the LG. Sony's current aesthetics aren't worth the $400 difference to me.

    For pricing references, I can get a Pixel 3A/Mi 9T + V60 for the same price as a Xperia 1 II - likely included taxes all around. To drive the point home further, I can get a Pixel 3A + Mi 9T pro for the price of a Xperia 1, again taxes included. Or if you really want me to go "99 hustle" , I could get an unlocked G8 (refurbished) + Mi 9T (new) + Pixel 3A (new) for the cost of a new Xperia 1 - taxes included.

    As much as I like Sony, their pricing scheme has been off from as long as they've been restructuring the mobile division - 10 years and counting.
    That's what happens when they start to die off. Remember how ridiculous priced the HTC models were before 2019.
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    03-25-2020 09:40 PM
  6. worldspy99's Avatar
    My current lineup is Pixel 3a, OnePlus 7T, Grey S20 and Blue S20 and Oppo Reno 2.

    Need to unload a few devices but just been too busy at work to find time. Plus I really don't want to go to the FedEx office right now.
    03-25-2020 09:51 PM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    That's what happens when they start to die off. Remember how ridiculous priced the HTC models were before 2019.
    People were and are still willing to pay. HTC's stopped offering good value for money and 2015 really ruined them. There will always be people willing to pay. What's happened now is that technology has become more ubiquitous and cheaper. Devices like the Mi 9T and Pixel 3A show that you really don't need to go north of $400 for a solid experience. We have 2016 to thank for that when the Axon 7, Honor 8, Idol 4S, Xiaomi Mi 5 and Oneplus 3 were killing that budget flagship segment.
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    03-25-2020 10:01 PM
  8. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    My current lineup is Pixel 3a, OnePlus 7T, Grey S20 and Blue S20 and Oppo Reno 2.

    Need to unload a few devices but just been too busy at work to find time. Plus I really don't want to go to the FedEx office right now.
    Only thing there that's really interesting there is the Reno 2. I predict you'll be down to the Pixel and a S20 by memorial day.
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    03-25-2020 10:05 PM
  9. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    If I were a consumer that needed a big screen exotic, I'd get a Reno 2. I know I'll get solid radios, headphone jack, solid cameras, fast charging prowess, expandable storage and good battery life with an all screen design.
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    03-25-2020 10:09 PM
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    Only thing there that's really interesting there is the Reno 2. I predict you'll be down to the Pixel and a S20 by memorial day.
    The 7T is going to my brother once travel opens up again.

    Reno 2 I don't know if there will be a buyer.

    One S20 has to go for sure.

    So we'll see if what you predicted happens by Memorial Day or not.

    Ain't gonna make any predictions around Easter unlike you know who.
    03-25-2020 10:10 PM
  11. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    The 7T is going to my brother once travel opens up again.

    Reno 2 I don't know if there will be a buyer.

    One S20 has to go for sure.

    So we'll see if what you predicted happens by Memorial Day or not.

    Ain't gonna make any predictions around Easter unlike you know who.
    I predict that Mr. Clue will get on his tio for that Easter prediction.

    Everyone should have a closet LG device. In my more wilder days I probably would have worked to move my V40 to make room for that Reno 2 as a capable backup for my Mate 20 Pro. As it stands, I got too many (photography stills) specialists in the stable.

    I'm sure you'll flip it eventually...have seen you flip some stuff that couldn't be moved before.
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    03-25-2020 10:28 PM
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    I predict that Mr. Clue will get on his tio for that Easter prediction.

    Everyone should have a closet LG device. In my more wilder days I probably would have worked to move my V40 to make room for that Reno 2 as a capable backup for my Mate 20 Pro. As it stands, I got too many (photography stills) specialists in the stable.

    I'm sure you'll flip it eventually...have seen you flip some stuff that couldn't be moved before.
    Reno 2 is on the January 2020 patch. Apparently Oppo is making updates available on their India website to everyone. It's a really nice device.
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    03-25-2020 10:35 PM
  13. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    The amount of pork in here is just so American...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/u...gtype=Homepage
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    03-25-2020 10:42 PM
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    Reno 2 is on the January 2020 patch. Apparently Oppo is making updates available on their India website to everyone. It's a really nice device.
    Yup, looks like it.
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    03-25-2020 10:44 PM
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    That's sucks. Do what you can to stay safe and not pick up anything viral.
    House is more than warm enough, I just can't get out that much, which I shouldn't be doing too much anyway, so, not great not terrible.
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    03-26-2020 05:32 AM
  17. Rose640's Avatar
    So in my parallel universe I can relate. We recently moved about four miles from the neighborhoods of my last four residences and 35 years of my life. It’s the same area but I went from 1/4-1/2 acre suburban ranch style to semi-urban three story condominium. Add that nothing is setup, the wife and I are used to being together but we did this for our last two daughters for their high school years. Vertical space is not the same as horizontal space.

    I’m laughing because now I feel all your pain of your move and your frustrations at the upheaval... laugh I say!!!! Laugh at me now.... thanks for reminding me, that all of us, regardless of location, politics, economic system and/or economic situation are experiencing similar life as we all seem to forget....

    Laugh some more.... it’s free, no cost, as I climb these effing stairs, I’m doing a days cardio every freaking hour.....
    I guess you'll get used to it. I grew up in a 3 flat house, and was living on an 8th floor with basically no lift last year.
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    03-26-2020 05:35 AM
  18. Rose640's Avatar
    Eat up while you can. LISP python some java and others are like the core for AI front end advancement. Even though you are in CAD (not sure of your profession) having insight or understanding of how things work beyond what you actually do that is in front of you pays dividends in the end.
    I guess you're right. It's nice to have a backup plan, since I'd really rather work in my field than SE, which again, isn't that far away, but still.
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    03-26-2020 05:39 AM
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    I guess you'll get used to it. I grew up in a 3 flat house, and was living on an 8th floor with basically no lift last year.
    I just turned 50 so how much time do I really have left? It seems all this is doing is hurtling me towards having a lunch appointment with the Grim Reaper. Thank goodness for social distancing temporarily I hope. Can’t win either way. Solitude above ground or below ground..... Argh!!!!!
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    03-26-2020 06:31 AM
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    03-26-2020 06:37 AM
  21. nate0's Avatar
    It is a huge wake up call for many. Tragic in many ways, am wondering how it will be next flu season....

    Additional to the lack of preparation done many individuals took misinformation or misinformed themselves and in some ways either paid with their own life or in other ways will cost other's theirs. It is a bit surreal too, but it is how we perceive, yet also how we bounce back for round 2. Thanks for sharing.
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    03-26-2020 04:26 PM
  22. nate0's Avatar
    I guess you're right. It's nice to have a backup plan, since I'd really rather work in my field than SE, which again, isn't that far away, but still.
    It too allows you to have a bigger picture. I work in IT so this is easy for me to say or do. I would love to get formal code/prgramming lessons, but I do not have time nor money etc. I know mostly VB, some c, python, and a touch of others. Mostly today I do a lot of scripting on the fly for database work or system admin work. Several or more years ago I did a lot of vb when managing a sharepoint site. Point being knowing all this together along with all my other background helps me solve problems a lot faster than an average tech who might only know 1 or 2 things really well. The extent of my CAD design is using trimble sw (ie sketchup) but I mainly use it for personal use for speaker enclosures etc and love what it can do. I am not certain what you will really need LISP or VB for in your work or even mysql (another great thing to learn or pickup) but I bet you be glad you have it in your tool box later on.
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    03-26-2020 04:35 PM
  23. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    It is a huge wake up call for many. Tragic in many ways, am wondering how it will be next flu season....

    Additional to the lack of preparation done many individuals took misinformation or misinformed themselves and in some ways either paid with their own life or in other ways will cost other's theirs. It is a bit surreal too, but it is how we perceive, yet also how we bounce back for round 2. Thanks for sharing.
    Not as huge a wake up as you think. Lots of people are still asleep.
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    03-26-2020 06:37 PM
  24. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    One of my former coworkers is COVID-19+. She's at home recovering, self quarantined with her spouse, who has the same diagnosis.
    03-26-2020 06:38 PM
  25. nate0's Avatar
    Not as huge a wake up as you think. Lots of people are still asleep.
    Hmmm. Yep, perspective :)
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    03-26-2020 06:52 PM
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