1. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Klonopin! Klonopin!
    Ha!
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    05-22-2020 01:40 PM
  2. Rose640's Avatar
    I underestimated laptop researching, I thought it was like phone researching. I kinda wish that I started earlier in the week.
    I had 2 strong options.
    The first is the ideal for me in specs, but apparently the sound is low. Also multiple people have said that they have had an issue with Zoom. With how things are going, I'm not going to walk myself into that. Additionally, the camera is trash.
    The second was also good. I was almost sold until learning that the WiFi connector is bad and disconnects frequently.

    Back to the drawing board. I have more of an idea of what I'm seeking though. Hopefully that helps.
    Beware of bad internet and wifi cards. My laptop has a trash one, it can be so annoying.

    I've just realised I never really cared about the speakers or the camera on a laptop.
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    05-22-2020 01:59 PM
  3. libra89's Avatar
    Beware of bad internet and wifi cards. My laptop has a trash one, it can be so annoying.

    I've just realised I never really cared about the speakers or the camera on a laptop.
    That's good to know about those two issues. One would think that since they don't always have ethernet ports, you would expect that to be fine. Ugh.

    That's interesting that you didn't, at least for the speakers anyway. I understand the camera though. I'm always watching YouTube videos. It's a daily thing for me. I don't want to have to plug in headphones/earphones, I only do when I need to.
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    05-22-2020 02:31 PM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    With the Flex 14:

    - Webcam is good
    - Performance is good
    - Screen is good enough, will struggle with reflections and brightness a little bit
    - Keyboard is solid
    - Weight is decent
    - Physical kill switch for webcam
    - Battery life is average
    - Materials feel a bit cheap
    - Trackpad is average
    - Can be noisy at times with the fans running
    Thank you for this! It's very helpful. I'm a big fan of the physical kill switch for the webcam. No wonder why this is sold out on Lenovo's site.
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    05-22-2020 02:36 PM
  5. Rose640's Avatar
    That's good to know about those two issues. One would think that since they don't always have ethernet ports, you would expect that to be fine. Ugh.

    That's interesting that you didn't, at least for the speakers anyway. I understand the camera though. I'm always watching YouTube videos. It's a daily thing for me. I don't want to have to plug in headphones/earphones, I only do when I need to.
    The ethernet port is a story on it's own. Ports in general. I can understand that a laptop can look better and a bit more stylish perhaps with less holes in it. But don't sacrifice practicality for the sake of it.
    That's one of those bad trends in tech we've got going on at the moment.

    I don't mind bad speakers on a laptop since I can't expect them to be as good as my earphones are. And call me crazy, but I like to hear every single instrument in a song and that's something a cheap mono speakers in a laptop can't really do well.
    And on top of all, I'm just used to using earpieces for everything.

    I have some laptops that you might like, I'll post links later, the app won't let me.
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    05-22-2020 02:48 PM
  6. Rose640's Avatar
    Remember how I said people won't be coming back home for Eid because of the virus? Well forget that. All border restrictions have been lifted. No isolation period, no need for a test as a prove.

    N i c e.
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    05-22-2020 02:51 PM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Ha!
    It was either that, or state that old sister in law needs to be playing some serious ketchy shuby (iPadding). If she's asking what that is, her husband has REALLY lost the plot! screenshot_20200522-163906.jpeg
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    05-22-2020 03:41 PM
  8. libra89's Avatar
    Remember how I said people won't be coming back home for Eid because of the virus? Well forget that. All border restrictions have been lifted. No isolation period, no need for a test as a prove.

    N i c e.
    Wow, that's scary.
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    05-22-2020 04:04 PM
  9. libra89's Avatar
    The ethernet port is a story on it's own. Ports in general. I can understand that a laptop can look better and a bit more stylish perhaps with less holes in it. But don't sacrifice practicality for the sake of it.
    That's one of those bad trends in tech we've got going on at the moment.

    I don't mind bad speakers on a laptop since I can't expect them to be as good as my earphones are. And call me crazy, but I like to hear every single instrument in a song and that's something a cheap mono speakers in a laptop can't really do well.
    And on top of all, I'm just used to using earpieces for everything.

    I have some laptops that you might like, I'll post links later, the app won't let me.
    I'm in full agreement with you on that. Doesn't make sense.

    Ah, I understand now. It sounds like your ears are very in tune to sounds.

    Okay, that's cool. I believe it for the app.
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    05-22-2020 04:06 PM
  10. Rose640's Avatar
    libra, here's a few possibly good picks.

    Dell XPS 13, note, it's 13.3 inch, 128GB SSD and no dedicated GPU, so somewhat a compromise.LINK

    Surface Laptop 2 - Again, smaller display and no dedicated GPU
    LINK 2

    ASUS ROG - this one pretty much nails all the thins you've asked for, and even more, the GPU is a killer one and you get 512 SSD. Exceept for the webcam, which it doesn't have :/.
    LINK 3

    Acer Nitro 5 - is a bit weaker than the ROG, but still with a great GPU and a webcam.
    LINK 4

    Dell 15.6'' Gaming laptop LINK 5

    There are many other fine examples, but I can't post all. I think your best luck with the good GPU is in the gaming waters. There are fine looking gaming laptops nowdays that don't scream bad taste, such as Dell's G series, Nitro doesn't look all that bad, there are nice looking Asus TUF laptops. Basically, just go for not less than 8GB of RAM, don't even consider having an HDD and you already know what you want for GPU and processor.

    I think the biggest trade off with gaming laptops is going to be a webcam. Don't know how convenient it would be for you get a separate one, since you can get a bang of a deal for around 800$. Hope this helps though.
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    05-22-2020 05:24 PM
  11. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    libra, here's a few possibly good picks.

    Dell XPS 13, note, it's 13.3 inch, 128GB SSD and no dedicated GPU, so somewhat a compromise.LINK

    Surface Laptop 2 - Again, smaller display and no dedicated GPU
    LINK 2

    ASUS ROG - this one pretty much nails all the thins you've asked for, and even more, the GPU is a killer one and you get 512 SSD. Exceept for the webcam, which it doesn't have :/.
    LINK 3

    Acer Nitro 5 - is a bit weaker than the ROG, but still with a great GPU and a webcam.
    LINK 4

    Dell 15.6'' Gaming laptop LINK 5

    There are many other fine examples, but I can't post all. I think your best luck with the good GPU is in the gaming waters. There are fine looking gaming laptops nowdays that don't scream bad taste, such as Dell's G series, Nitro doesn't look all that bad, there are nice looking Asus TUF laptops. Basically, just go for not less than 8GB of RAM, don't even consider having an HDD and you already know what you want for GPU and processor.

    I think the biggest trade off with gaming laptops is going to be a webcam. Don't know how convenient it would be for you get a separate one, since you can get a bang of a deal for around 800$. Hope this helps though.
    This is the part where I interject and state as that as a woman she may likely "prefer" to carry around half of Bosnia in a shoulder bag/tote vs lugging around a gaming laptop (even though they're plenty of women who like traveling light) . I think I remember hearing her state she doesn't want to carry around a heavy machine in her EDC (everyday carry) kit.
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    05-22-2020 05:29 PM
  12. libra89's Avatar
    libra, here's a few possibly good picks.

    Dell XPS 13, note, it's 13.3 inch, 128GB SSD and no dedicated GPU, so somewhat a compromise.LINK

    Surface Laptop 2 - Again, smaller display and no dedicated GPU
    LINK 2

    ASUS ROG - this one pretty much nails all the thins you've asked for, and even more, the GPU is a killer one and you get 512 SSD. Exceept for the webcam, which it doesn't have :/.
    LINK 3

    Acer Nitro 5 - is a bit weaker than the ROG, but still with a great GPU and a webcam.
    LINK 4

    Dell 15.6'' Gaming laptop LINK 5

    There are many other fine examples, but I can't post all. I think your best luck with the good GPU is in the gaming waters. There are fine looking gaming laptops nowdays that don't scream bad taste, such as Dell's G series, Nitro doesn't look all that bad, there are nice looking Asus TUF laptops. Basically, just go for not less than 8GB of RAM, don't even consider having an HDD and you already know what you want for GPU and processor.

    I think the biggest trade off with gaming laptops is going to be a webcam. Don't know how convenient it would be for you get a separate one, since you can get a bang of a deal for around 800$. Hope this helps though.
    This is helpful, thank you! I appreciate the time you took to find these and tell me about them. I could do that with the webcam, as long as I have enough USB ports.
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    05-22-2020 05:35 PM
  13. libra89's Avatar
    This is the part where I interject and state as that as a woman she may likely "prefer" to carry around half of Bosnia in a shoulder bag/tote vs lugging around a gaming laptop (even though they're plenty of women who like traveling light) . I think I remember hearing her state she doesn't want to carry around a heavy machine in her EDC (everyday carry) kit.
    You are correct. No heavy machines for me please. I do also value having at least average battery life.
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    05-22-2020 05:37 PM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    You are correct. No heavy machines for me please. I do also value having at least average battery life.
    My Flex 14 is a 3.7lb machine if memory serves my correct. The Envy 13T and the Dell XPS are under 3lb.I think what you carry your machine in also determines how you feel about the weight.
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    05-22-2020 05:55 PM
  15. libra89's Avatar
    My Flex 14 is a 3.7lb machine if memory serves my correct. The Envy 13T and the Dell XPS are under 3lb.I think what you carry your machine in also determines how you feel about the weight.
    I just use a backpack that has a laptop slot. That's good to know though. Unless it's like a thick gaming laptop, I'm guessing anything will be lighter than what I currently have lol.
    05-22-2020 06:06 PM
  16. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I just use a backpack that has a laptop slot. That's good to know though. Unless it's like a thick gaming laptop, I'm guessing anything will be lighter than what I currently have lol.
    Makes sense. Good luck with the search.
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    05-22-2020 07:36 PM
  17. libra89's Avatar
    Makes sense. Good luck with the search.
    Thank you, it looks like I'll need it. I have found some possibilities but no reviews on that model is a bummer. It's looking like possibly taking a risk.
    05-22-2020 08:21 PM
  18. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Thank you, it looks like I'll need it. I have found some possibilities but no reviews on that model is a bummer. It's looking like possibly taking a risk.
    There is another possibility to think about.

    You could just find the best laptop for your price range not worrying much about the webcam, speakers and microphone. Make sure it has at least one USB C port.

    Get a USB C hub. Buy a webcam and headset. Have them plugged in at home ready to go.

    If you're out and need the webcam for some reason the laptop can suffice in that situation but it looks like the webcam and microphone are mostly at home thing?

    That's the way I'd approach it anyway. I just assume all webcams, microphones and speakers on laptops are still rubbish for the most part and care more about the other parts of the laptop more. Battery life, WiFi, CPU, etc.

    Since I rarely use a webcam it's never a consideration for me and with all the calls I've made on Skype and Zoom I've learned that a headset or using a USB microphone and the laptop speakers is the better solution.

    Just using the laptop built in stuff isn't that great. At least in my experience so far.

    Haven't tried the wife's new laptop yet for calls so maybe it's better.
    05-23-2020 02:20 AM
  19. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I small story. I may have mentioned this a while ago.

    My wife and I met online. She was in Australia and I was in Canada. We're both from low income families but both of us always had a desire to live overseas and travel. It was a lot more difficult to do that when I was younger.

    Anyway, Australia, even today, is not well known. Most people don't know much about it. Even those who lived there for a year on working tourists visa are not really aware of everything. For most Australia is a tourists destination of as lifetime.

    So when my wife and I got together originally the plan was for her to move to Canada. That changed and I moved to Australia instead. Because it was easier. We've since moved around a lot more and I think my moving to Australia was the better choice. It helped my mentality a lot.

    During the time of deciding about this I found out that my sister-in-law thought my wife was after Canadian citizenship and was the only reason she was interred in me... I'm not overly fond of my sister-in-law if you're wondering. Lots of other reasons as well bedsides this.

    My wife found that amusing though. It showed a clear misunderstanding of Australia.

    It's both sad and funny how ignorant some people can be.
    That's interesting and amazing that both of you were able to marry and travel so much at your ages.

    Most people who travel abroad frequently do so either when young and single on student visas, or once they are married but well-off retirees.

    I guess I misunderstood citizenship and residency in Commonwealth nations. I had thought that persons who were citizens of a Commonwealth nation could easily move to another Commonwealth nation or even to the UK easily. For example, I would have guessed that MIA could have moved to the UK and become a permanent resident or citizen there easier than moving to the USA and becoming a permanent resident or citizen here. I also thought that you would have been easily able to move from Canada to Australia.
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  20. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    That's interesting and amazing that both of you were able to marry and travel so much at your ages.

    Most people who travel abroad frequently do so either when young and single on student visas, or once they are married but well-off retirees.

    I guess I misunderstood citizenship and residency in Commonwealth nations. I had thought that persons who were citizens of a Commonwealth nation could easily move to another Commonwealth nation or even to the UK easily. For example, I would have guessed that MIA could have moved to the UK and become a permanent resident or citizen there easier than moving to the USA and becoming a permanent resident or citizen here. I also thought that you would have been easily able to move from Canada to Australia.
    Before 1970 I believe this was the case but as countries diverged more from the old British Empire and new immigration laws came in all this disappeared.

    For me to live anywhere other than Canada means going through immigration. Other than having a direct ancestor to a country I'm subjected to those laws.

    I did look into possible British ancestry citizenship but it's too far back and I don't think my mother is interested at her age to get hers so... Not sure it would pass down through my mother to me either.

    Also a British passport wouldn't help me now anyway with the EU. It would just complicate things.

    So in general, if you meet someone overseas and you want to be with them it means working out how to get at least a year together and show you're in a committed relationship before applying a partner visa. It's complicated the older you are. Also countries have age limits and medical requirements as well for this visa. Typically younger than 45 and in good health.

    Keep in mind this is a partner visa not a retirement visa or other type of visa. They all have other conditions.

    As for the EU. My wife got her Finnish citizenship and I as her partner gets to go with her. I do have to apply for residency still and there are conditions depending on the country. Being an EU citizen will make life a lot easier. Just need to work on the language thing.

    I should also point out we got together in our early 30s. Too old for working holiday visa but still young enough to work things out though still difficult.
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  21. Rose640's Avatar
    This is the part where I interject and state as that as a woman she may likely "prefer" to carry around half of Bosnia in a shoulder bag/tote vs lugging around a gaming laptop (even though they're plenty of women who like traveling light) . I think I remember hearing her state she doesn't want to carry around a heavy machine in her EDC (everyday carry) kit.
    They're no LG Gram, but some of them aren't that heavy. I mean, a dedicated GPU and a bigger battery are definitely going to add up to the mass. Even so, there are some on the list that aren't really that heavy.

    Half of Bosnia isn't all that much people to be honest, or the land as a matter of fact.
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    05-23-2020 05:29 AM
  22. Rose640's Avatar
    This is helpful, thank you! I appreciate the time you took to find these and tell me about them. I could do that with the webcam, as long as I have enough USB ports.
    There should be enough of them on those gaming ones. Honestly I think that's the best solution.

    Good luck.
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    05-23-2020 05:33 AM
  23. Rose640's Avatar
    I just realised how cheaper laptops on Amazon and Newegg (forgot to mention Newegg, they sometimes have cheaper prices than Amazon, so you can check them out too libra) are than in the shops in my country.

    On top of the all import taxes I have to pay, the dealers takes just too big of a cut. So instead of paying. So an 800€ laptoo would cost me around 1900BAM here. As you can see, huge difference.
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    05-23-2020 05:43 AM
  24. Rose640's Avatar
    What a show the US run for a president office has become. Just visit shop.donaldjtrump.com. Nothing else to say here.
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    05-23-2020 06:11 AM
  25. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I just realised how cheaper laptops on Amazon and Newegg (forgot to mention Newegg, they sometimes have cheaper prices than Amazon, so you can check them out too libra) are than in the shops in my country.

    On top of the all import taxes I have to pay, the dealers takes just too big of a cut. So instead of paying. So an 800€ laptoo would cost me around 1900BAM here. As you can see, huge difference.
    Taxes here in France are a bit high as well so things cost a bit more. It's the reason why a lot of British people here still buy things from the UK instead of France.

    Once brexit happens things may change but who knows.

    It's a bit frustrating. You see prices in the UK for the same item quite a bit cheaper than here and the Euro and Pound are not the different to make it that much cheaper so it's obviously taxes.

    As the UK is still in the EU there's no import tax currently. That may change. Especially if they go no deal which still a strong possibility.
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