WC 1M Post Challenge - You Ready?!

[Chregu]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

They also did so to accommodate larger devices in Update 3, though it was optional.

Besides, all they did add were small tiles, which can be just as informative given the right kind of app and live tile.

They did more than that. They were so proud of the negative space of the Windows Phone 7 home screen.

Why the Windows Phone 7 Start Page Has Blank Spots | Pocketnow

I don't find the Microsoft feature about it right now, but they explained this in detail. Only to forget everything about it for Windows Phone 8. They changed their design philosophy heavily with this switch.

 

[sd173]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

Having a notification centre went against the whole WP philosophy. People just complained continually and MS caved. As for the search button I find that annoying on WP and wish it was something I could turn off.

Both notifications and search should be turned off for games as an option.

This is why I wanted all new Windows Phones to have virtual buttons - if you didn't want the search button it works be easier to have add a way to just remove it - or add a quick setting instead like cellular data or Wi-Fi, but that would sort of do the same thing as the notification center so...

 

[WanderingTraveler]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

Okay, that's it. Let's call it a day for intense tech debate and let sahib into the thread again.

(And what happened to those pictures?)

 

[WanderingTraveler]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

Wait, keep going!

At this rate, we'll hit 75k by tomorrow!

 

[WanderingTraveler]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

This reminds me of a certain cryst-fairy who kept screaming "Keep going!", at least until her plan to please her master was complete.

 

[sd173]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

I didn't say take the settings away just the notifications. I was thinking more of a live tile that expands not opening an app or waiting for it flip. That's what I meant by special.

My point about WP is they are dammed if they do and dammed of they don't. They're in a no win situation. Devs still ignore WP. Major apps still missing. Still low take up in the USA and their services in other countries is subpar. So how long do you keep kicking a dread horse? Or drop it to a 3rd world market and forget about the USA? Where is the point of failure?

Well now that more developers are starting to develop for Windows Phone and helping it even more to become the fastest growing OS things might change in the near future, especially when they overtake iOS in 2017 like IDC predicted.

 

[WanderingTraveler]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

Well now that more developers are starting to develop for Windows Phone and helping it even more to become the fastest growing OS things might change in the near future, especially when they overtake iOS in 2017 like IDC predicted.

If there's one thing I learned during my time in the tech world, it's "don't trust analysts."
They rely on conditions remaining constant for their predictions to be accurate.

 

[Chregu]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

Well now that more developers are starting to develop for Windows Phone and helping it even more to become the fastest growing OS things might change in the near future, especially when they overtake iOS in 2017 like IDC predicted.

I wrote that before, when you have almost no marketshare it's very easy to have the fastest growing OS. Growth is relative. If you sell one phone in one month, and then two phones the next month, you have a growth of 100 %. When Apple sells a million phones in one month and a million and one phone the next phone, they have no growth at all.

Anyway, I'm off to dinner and a concert.

 

[sd173]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

If there's one thing I learned during my time in the tech world, it's "don't trust analysts."
They rely on conditions remaining constant for their predictions to be accurate.

Well I'm saying that mainly because I think it'll definitely happen in a few years - I never read their report or anything just their prediction.

 

[sd173]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

I wrote that before, when you have almost no marketshare it's very easy to have the fastest growing OS. Growth is relative. If you sell one phone in one month, and then two phones the next month, you have a growth of 100 %. When Apple sells a million phones in one month and a million and one phone the next phone, they have no growth at all.

Anyway, I'm off to dinner and a concert.

But some developers might not think that and seeing that might help to get them onboard with WP.

 

[WanderingTraveler]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

I wrote that before, when you have almost no marketshare it's very easy to have the fastest growing OS. Growth is relative. If you sell one phone in one month, and then two phones the next month, you have a growth of 100 %. When Apple sells a million phones in one month and a million and one phone the next phone, they have no growth at all.

Anyway, I'm off to dinner and a concert.

Good luck at your dinner and concert.

Break a leg! (Figuratively, of course.)

 

[WanderingTraveler]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

But some developers might not think that and seeing that might help to get them onboard with WP.

I don't know. The Wii U had an impressive sales bump lately, but I still don't see that third-party support.

Growth is irrelevant if you don't have a large installed base to begin with.

 

[N_LaRUE]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

Well now that more developers are starting to develop for Windows Phone and helping it even more to become the fastest growing OS things might change in the near future, especially when they overtake iOS in 2017 like IDC predicted.

When you're last any step you take looks large. So fastest growing OS in 3rd world countries. More devs but not the main players. So 3rd party apps which to some means 3rd class.

2017 is three years away. All it would take is Apple to make a good budget phone and WP would be screwed.

 

[WanderingTraveler]

I don't know. The Wii U had an impressive sales bump lately, but I still don't see that third-party support.

Growth is irrelevant if you don't have a large installed base to begin with.

And please don't tell me you see that kind of growth only in small markets.

The Wii U doubled its sales...in Japan. And they sold roughly 16-17k units. (Selling more than the PS3, PS4 and XBOX 360 combined.)

EDIT: I was trying to state a parallel example, since I have not hard numbers for WP as a whole.

 

[sahib lopez]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

I will say it again.... forget the US and work on other countries that are helping windows phone

 

[WanderingTraveler]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

I will say it again.... forget the US and work on other countries that are helping windows phone

Catch-22. A lot of prominent devs and studios are based in the US, and Ameeicans are their target audience.

 

[sahib lopez]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

Catch-22. A lot of prominent devs and studios are based in the US, and Ameeicans are their target audience.

yeah that are far up apples and googles ... behind

 

[N_LaRUE]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

Okay, that's it. Let's call it a day for intense tech debate and let sahib into the thread again.

(And what happened to those pictures?)

No pictures sorry. No time.

 

[WanderingTraveler]

re: WC 100K Post Challenge - You Ready?!

yeah that are far up apples and googles ... behind

You also have the fact that a lot of Microsoft services only work properly in the US.

 

[WanderingTraveler]

No pictures sorry. No time.

I see.

This reminds me of something.

A lot of game developers nowadays rely on false promises, false release dates, false trailers. I miss the good old days when developers would just shut up and ship (without bugs, of course.)