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The IT industry had nothing to do with the situation in the UK.
The problems in the UK started back in the early 80s when 'traditional' employment started to disappear from the northern areas of the country and industries shut down leaving thousands unemployed and given no means to develop new skills. Then add to the unattractive nature and poor infrastructure of the north for other industries and you have what can only be described as a recipe for disaster.
There are places in the north where people have been generally unemployed since their industry shut down. There are towns that are basically dead or dying. People lament about 'the good ol days'.
A lot of these towns have little to no employment opportunities to begin with, but then some industries go out of their way to employ workers from the EU who will work for less or specifically, got contracted from their own country to work in the UK. Not sure what news you get but there are EU truck drivers, as an example, who basically live to work. They get paid barely a living wage, let alone any ability to thrive. This is a perfect example of what is wrong with our 'cheap' economy.
The UK had implemented policies that allow this to happen. A lot of people blame the EU, thanks to the right wing media, but in truth a lot of the destructive policies are due to the UK. Because the EU doesn't have jurisdiction on what employment laws a country can bring in.
To add further fuel to the fire the right wing media constantly goes on about immigration and how immigrants are stealing jobs. The farming sector is big employer of EU citizens (A British person would never work in farming) and this unfortunately means that EU citizens live in small rural areas which can't handle the influx of immigration and put stress on the services. The UK government have done little to help. Lots of EU citizens also work in many of the industries that most UK workers wouldn't touch. Most are hard work and low paid.
It's the stress of the services that gets people angry and the lack of other employment in the area. If British citizens were employed in 'better' jobs and had good services than there would be no issue with EU citizens. British people need to have better opportunities of course... There will always be those who are anti-immigration but I don't think the EU referendum result would have been the same if things were handled differently.
I would also point out that EU citizens work in a lot of industries and without them those industries would not be thriving. They're high skilled and well paid.
The last thing out of all this of course was the refugee crisis and the right wing media constantly proclaiming that they were all coming to the UK. The referendum couldn't have been at a worse time. Because immigration has been such an issue for many years here in the UK, this just tipped it. OF course refuges have nothing to do with the EU again, but that didn't stop those who wanted to leave the EU using it to their advantage.
Out of all this I will say this much. The UK has a horrible immigration system to begin with. They did nothing to implement EU freedom of movement policies correctly, due to the cost of course, so in all reality they have no one to blame but themselves for the mess they created.
On top of that, the ability to contract EU workers directly from their country and the implementation of zero hour contracts (both policies pushed by the UK in the EU as well) has created an environment of uncertainty of workers in low paid, low skilled jobs. This is why the UK has the issues it does.
Don't even get me started on the so called 'Gig economy' and what that has done.
The IT industry had nothing to do with the situation in the UK.
The problems in the UK started back in the early 80s when 'traditional' employment started to disappear from the northern areas of the country and industries shut down leaving thousands unemployed and given no means to develop new skills. Then add to the unattractive nature and poor infrastructure of the north for other industries and you have what can only be described as a recipe for disaster.
There are places in the north where people have been generally unemployed since their industry shut down. There are towns that are basically dead or dying. People lament about 'the good ol days'.
A lot of these towns have little to no employment opportunities to begin with, but then some industries go out of their way to employ workers from the EU who will work for less or specifically, got contracted from their own country to work in the UK. Not sure what news you get but there are EU truck drivers, as an example, who basically live to work. They get paid barely a living wage, let alone any ability to thrive. This is a perfect example of what is wrong with our 'cheap' economy.
The UK had implemented policies that allow this to happen. A lot of people blame the EU, thanks to the right wing media, but in truth a lot of the destructive policies are due to the UK. Because the EU doesn't have jurisdiction on what employment laws a country can bring in.
To add further fuel to the fire the right wing media constantly goes on about immigration and how immigrants are stealing jobs. The farming sector is big employer of EU citizens (A British person would never work in farming) and this unfortunately means that EU citizens live in small rural areas which can't handle the influx of immigration and put stress on the services. The UK government have done little to help. Lots of EU citizens also work in many of the industries that most UK workers wouldn't touch. Most are hard work and low paid.
It's the stress of the services that gets people angry and the lack of other employment in the area. If British citizens were employed in 'better' jobs and had good services than there would be no issue with EU citizens. British people need to have better opportunities of course... There will always be those who are anti-immigration but I don't think the EU referendum result would have been the same if things were handled differently.
I would also point out that EU citizens work in a lot of industries and without them those industries would not be thriving. They're high skilled and well paid.
The last thing out of all this of course was the refugee crisis and the right wing media constantly proclaiming that they were all coming to the UK. The referendum couldn't have been at a worse time. Because immigration has been such an issue for many years here in the UK, this just tipped it. OF course refuges have nothing to do with the EU again, but that didn't stop those who wanted to leave the EU using it to their advantage.
Out of all this I will say this much. The UK has a horrible immigration system to begin with. They did nothing to implement EU freedom of movement policies correctly, due to the cost of course, so in all reality they have no one to blame but themselves for the mess they created.
On top of that, the ability to contract EU workers directly from their country and the implementation of zero hour contracts (both policies pushed by the UK in the EU as well) has created an environment of uncertainty of workers in low paid, low skilled jobs. This is why the UK has the issues it does.
Don't even get me started on the so called 'Gig economy' and what that has done.
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