1. Oliver Newell's Avatar
    I made a thread a few months ago now about the announcement that Motorola were going to make their new flagship phone, the X in Texas. Now I was sceptical and at best I thought "yeah but that wont be for a year or two" but I was wrong. It's 2 o'clock in the morning here in the UK and I had BBC News 24 on and they must have some sort of partnership with CNN because every time at this hour CNN report from the US for the UK and they reported on it and I learnt a few things.

    1- It really is made in America. Like the guy said its one thing being "assembled" In the US but what about the internal components such as the semi conductors, wire, circuit boards and so on, and with that this factory worker bring a map of the US and says that about 80% or the phone is US made (Maine, Texas, Utah and several others).

    2 - They are still hiring. They are predicting 2,000 jobs by the end of August and 3,000 by the end of the year.

    3 - The cost of the phone should be as expensive, or as cheap (which ever way you want to put it) as their Chinese made counterparts. Some rumours have emerged that it is going to be priced slightly lower than them, Motorola, or Google commenting on challenging the likes of Apple and Samsung profit margins, however Motorola will be saving money with shipping costs, especially for the smartphones sold within the US and western hemisphere, if you could say that. Also that Chinese manufacturing could soon come to a slow down or stand still as companies may not be able to exploit cheap labour costs as wages are increasing in China (a good thing never the less) making their phones less attractive price wise, or narrowing the profits margins) Very good point.

    And 4. I will be buying one. I know to a lot of people they won't care for this sort of thing but I think it is a step in the right direction and could possibly lead to other companies doing the same. Apple have said they plan to make some Macs in the US as well as HP.

    Like eating a steak, knowing where it comes from and how its made can change the experience you get from it. And with increasing reports of unfortunate fatalities and poor working conditions by Apple contractors (not just Foxconn) its nicer to know that this move may cause for OEM's to think differently. I have long argued that Nokia should make their handsets in Finland where they used to be built but that asking too much I guess. Motorola are going to use the "Made in US" as a way of promoting, Nokia could do the same?

    Other than this the X looks really nice, comes in several colours and has really neat tricks like when you grab the phone out of your pocket and sake it, it turns on the camera. That's quite cool.

    So yeah what are you guys' opinions on this? You as excited or not as me about this?
    sandelius likes this.
    08-01-2013 08:09 PM
  2. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    It's not for me, since I do not use Verizon.
    08-01-2013 10:35 PM
  3. mase123987's Avatar
    It's not for me, since I do not use Verizon.
    It will be on the other carriers as well.
    08-01-2013 10:39 PM
  4. falconeight's Avatar
    I never liked moto but I have to give it to them for making a very nice product in the USA.
    Gurggles likes this.
    08-02-2013 11:31 AM
  5. mase123987's Avatar
    I never liked moto but I have to give it to them for making a very nice product in the USA.
    Really we should be saying Google, not Motorola.
    08-02-2013 11:42 AM
  6. falconeight's Avatar
    Really we should be saying Google, not Motorola.
    True but I would hate to give google any props.
    Oliver Newell likes this.
    08-03-2013 11:42 AM
  7. jgbstetson's Avatar
    I sorta question the 80% figure and the cost competitiveness. If it was cost competitive, why is the on contract price for a mid range (android) device so high?

    But you are correct about price pressure in China. The world has relied on their labor force so much that there is upward pressure on labor. Suddenly it's not so cheap to do business there (or secure). I think you'll start to see some production move to other, more undeveloped countries or home countries to save on shipping.
    08-03-2013 11:53 AM
  8. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I was actually excited for this phone, for my friend who loves Android. But I'm very disappointed in the specs. The HTC one with better specs and more storage is cheaper...
    08-03-2013 11:59 AM
  9. Gurggles's Avatar
    I think this is an amazing device for the manufacturing side. The consumer wins because they can make a phone that they feel represents them, however its too expensive. I do not mean cost, I mean time wise. I design a phone that I like now but what about in a year? How about the resale value?
    08-03-2013 12:01 PM
  10. falconeight's Avatar
    Whats with the all the spec talk. Its not like a windows pc where you have to have the latest processor, maxed ram to run a game. Its android and all apps/games will run on this phone. The problem with android is that the S4 and htc one will always be outdated. The stock android version will be updated and bloat free but you have to pay $650 and up for those. This is bloat free and $199 on contract. The specs are fine and it will sell tons.
    Oliver Newell likes this.
    08-03-2013 04:00 PM
  11. falconeight's Avatar
    I think this is an amazing device for the manufacturing side. The consumer wins because they can make a phone that they feel represents them, however its too expensive. I do not mean cost, I mean time wise. I design a phone that I like now but what about in a year? How about the resale value?
    As long as android produces a new phone monthly the resale value will always be bad.
    08-03-2013 04:01 PM
  12. mase123987's Avatar
    Whats with the all the spec talk. Its not like a windows pc where you have to have the latest processor, maxed ram to run a game. Its android and all apps/games will run on this phone. The problem with android is that the S4 and htc one will always be outdated. The stock android version will be updated and bloat free but you have to pay $650 and up for those. This is bloat free and $199 on contract. The specs are fine and it will sell tons.
    You do want phones to have higher specs so game/app makers will be interested in bringing the highest end games. You never want a dev to think "I don't want to bring my game over because it won't look or operate as well without (fill in the blank)."

    Another thing with Android: 4.3 actively uses TRIM for the first time. This could really help keep devices from slowing down over time.
    08-03-2013 10:14 PM
  13. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Its a nice looking phone especially from Motorola but it is androjd so I will definitely pass.
    08-03-2013 10:40 PM
  14. falconeight's Avatar
    You do want phones to have higher specs so game/app makers will be interested in bringing the highest end games. You never want a dev to think "I don't want to bring my game over because it won't look or operate as well without (fill in the blank)."

    Another thing with Android: 4.3 actively uses TRIM for the first time. This could really help keep devices from slowing down over time.
    As a app developer you want your app to meet the requirements of more phones. Its how they make money. Right now the quad core high end androids are nothing more than big ***** waving. They really serve no use.
    08-04-2013 10:57 AM
  15. mase123987's Avatar
    As a app developer you want your app to meet the requirements of more phones. Its how they make money. Right now the quad core high end androids are nothing more than big ***** waving. They really serve no use.
    Games can run at different resolutions, details, etc. They don't have to max out at the lowest common denominator.
    08-04-2013 07:34 PM
  16. Oliver Newell's Avatar
    I sorta question the 80% figure and the cost competitiveness. If it was cost competitive, why is the on contract price for a mid range (android) device so high?

    But you are correct about price pressure in China. The world has relied on their labor force so much that there is upward pressure on labor. Suddenly it's not so cheap to do business there (or secure). I think you'll start to see some production move to other, more undeveloped countries or home countries to save on shipping.
    Maybe carriers are taking advantage of the core purchasing price of the phone when they buy them from Motorola, maybe thinking that the phone will sell by ship loads and putting a higher profit margin on it? I am not quite sure, but never the less, its not exactly cheap for what you get, but its not a rip of really, either, especially considering you can't really compare this phone to any others, purely based on the country of origin. Maybe if Apple made their phone in the US, or Sony made their comparable Xperia in Japan we'd get a better idea of how it stacks up.

    Yes, this will surely persuade other manufactures to reconsider their manufacturing plants. Sony has planned to shift some of its production for future tablet and smartphones and possibly vaio products back to Japan amid the anti-Japanese protests in China last September. Also it might be something to do with Shinzo Abe (PM of Japan) policy on economic growth and so on. Other Jap companies like Panasonic and Toshiba have planned similar movements.
    08-08-2013 03:19 PM
  17. AlexanderJJJ's Avatar
    If I was ever to get an Android phone it would be the Moto X or a Nexus device. Hate bloatware on phones. That's one reason I like Windows Phone. Also like things stock and a similar experience on all devices. So many Android devices that are different.
    08-08-2013 03:24 PM
  18. lancepr's Avatar
    After what Samsung has done to Apple, I think more companies will look to get their devices made outside of China to help keep their trade secrets internal.
    08-11-2013 12:59 PM

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