07-11-2014 02:20 AM
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  1. k0de's Avatar
    We have seen a round of assault from official apps developers with in the last two weeks here at the Windows Phone store. So why are third party apps dev's even bothering deploying third party apps into the Windows Phone store?

    Is it the end of third party apps on Windows Phone. And what do you prefer? Third party apps or official?

    For me official apps are best.

    Your thoughts?
    Last edited by k0de; 07-02-2014 at 11:39 PM.
    07-02-2014 11:28 PM
  2. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I think 3rd party and official apps can coexist. There are still a lot of 3rd party apps for iOS/Android, for example Twitter apps, other than official Twitter.
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    07-02-2014 11:36 PM
  3. k0de's Avatar
    I think 3rd party and official apps can coexist. There are still a lot of 3rd party apps for iOS/Android, for example Twitter apps, other than official Twitter.
    True indeed. Third Party apps are great. But many not all interfere with copy right infringement. So why bother?

    Windows Phone has a platform. And a programming language now.

    Why copy the work on other platforms?

    Dev's on this platform have to take the programming language seriously and begin to innovate with their apps.

    What are we waiting for?

    There is nothing better than authentic.

    Let Disney make Disney apps, Let your favorite tv show make their apps. Let Google make their apps.

    But new dev's here on Windows phone be authentic make your own app and trade marks.

    It is time for other platforms to start to copy Windows Phone apps. Windows Phone is ready for this.
    07-03-2014 12:05 AM
  4. altafmahmood's Avatar
    Sometimes the official app makers don't provide official app or the support they show on other platforms hence we need those third party app to fill the gap
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    07-03-2014 12:25 AM
  5. k0de's Avatar
    Sometimes the official app makers don't provide official app or the support they show on other platforms hence we need those third party app to fill the gap
    Oh well that is their lost. Rip rip....

    We don't need third part app dev's anymore. Third party apps dev's are mega talented.

    Why should these mega talented dev's waste their time, energy and talent creating another Google app? Or creating another app that exist on other platforms?

    Burn that mega energy of talent of code on a new product, on a new innovation, on a new idea for Windows Phone.

    The app gap will close with official apps. Not by third party apps,,,,
    Last edited by k0de; 07-03-2014 at 08:18 PM.
    07-03-2014 08:08 PM
  6. bozza72's Avatar
    Speak for yourself, many official apps have come about because 3rd party ones did so well, you've just goto look at the work Rudi has done with 3rd party apps and how he now works with the official ones. If fact this whole post looks more like an exercise for trolling & not a real forum question.
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    07-03-2014 08:19 PM
  7. k0de's Avatar
    Speak for yourself, many official apps have come about because 3rd party ones did so well, you've just goto look at the work Rudi has done with 3rd party apps and how he now works with the official ones. If fact this whole post looks more like an exercise for trolling & not a real forum question.
    Rudy is good.

    But Rudy would be excellent if he had an app concept that he created.

    I love Rudy and respect Rudy for his work. In fact i think he is an excellent developer that is burning his excellent talent and energy all in the wrong places., And I believe that because of this Rudy falls short of gold.

    Trolling? haha. Because I say to stop copyright infringement and innovate?

    elaborate?

    I believe Windows is in a new phase now. Forget market shares. MSFT is doing just fine.
    Last edited by k0de; 07-03-2014 at 08:51 PM.
    07-03-2014 08:24 PM
  8. k0de's Avatar
    Like the title states. Third party apps. Why bother? Innovate Windows Phones dev's.

    Show the World your work. No more third party apps.

    Please....

    Lets go. Programming language and programming design language is there.,,

    Stop comparing platforms.....,,

    And create....,
    07-03-2014 08:47 PM
  9. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    Like the title states. Third party apps? Why bother.

    Innovate Windows Phones dev's.

    Show the World your work. No more third party apps.

    Please....

    Lets go. Programming language and programming design language is there.,,

    Stop comparing platforms.....,,
    So with regards to Google that actively block Microsoft from making apps for them and won't release them either, who do we rely on? 3rd party devs. Would you rather we have no access to Google services and therefore have to leave the platform as work (yes my workplace uses Google Docs) can't be accessed without these third party apps? I don't think that's the right approach to take. I think a mix of third party apps (or first party if the companies/developers wish to really commit to Windows Phone) and new exciting apps are what we need.
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    07-03-2014 08:52 PM
  10. lizziej's Avatar
    Third party apps used when there is no official app available show that there is demand for such an app, and thus can motivate the production of official apps.
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    07-03-2014 08:53 PM
  11. k0de's Avatar
    So with regards to Google that actively block Microsoft from making apps for them and won't release them either, who do we rely on? 3rd party devs. Would you rather we have no access to Google services and therefore have to leave the platform as work (yes my workplace uses Google Docs) can't be accessed without these third party apps? I don't think that's the right approach to take. I think a mix of third party apps (or first party if the companies/developers wish to really commit to Windows Phone) and new exciting apps are what we need.
    Yes no Google. Since I left iOS.

    But I will welcome Google when it lands on Windows Phones.

    Name an excellent Google third party app with no frustration on WP?
    07-03-2014 08:59 PM
  12. k0de's Avatar
    Third party apps used when there is no official app available show that there is demand for such an app, and thus can motivate the production of official apps.
    Not necessarily. Tinder wants nothing with WP.

    So why you want tinder?

    Why give these sites extra usage, ratings, exposure through API's when they don't want nothing to do with Windows phones?

    Put it this way. Tinder saids: We don't care about these people, But their third party apps dev will created an app for us. And then shut it down when popular. Lol.

    Lol, lol

    F that, No more third party apps please.

    Windows Phone devs. Be Authentic. Innovate surpass iOS and Droids developers,

    Or don't develop at all for real.
    Last edited by k0de; 07-03-2014 at 09:24 PM.
    07-03-2014 09:09 PM
  13. Ed Boland's Avatar

    Name an excellent Google third party app with no frustration on WP?
    Metrotube? :)
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    07-03-2014 09:24 PM
  14. k0de's Avatar
    Try again
    07-03-2014 09:25 PM
  15. k0de's Avatar
    Metrotube? :)
    Bye far iOS and Droid,.
    Is best.

    Thanks
    .
    Try again.

    Again. API's handicap the dev's

    Not good. Any dev will tell you this.....

    Access is limited no good.

    F the whole thing.
    Last edited by k0de; 07-03-2014 at 09:39 PM.
    07-03-2014 09:25 PM
  16. k0de's Avatar
    Garbage
    07-03-2014 09:35 PM
  17. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    Not necessarily. Tinder wants nothing with WP.

    So why you want tinder?

    Why give these sites extra usage, ratings, exposure through API's when they don't want nothing to do with Windows phones?

    Put it this way. Tinder saids: We don't care about these people, But their third party apps dev will created an app for us. And then shut it down when popular. Lol.

    Lol, lol

    F that, No more third party apps please.

    Windows Phone devs. Be Authentic. Innovate surpass iOS and Droids developers,

    Or don't develop at all for real.
    Because without these third party apps there's no way we can persuade most people to join. "Oh there's no YouTube app, well then I'm not getting a Windows Phone" the very fact is that without these third party apps for core things like Google services, there is no chance of really increasing market share. Because as you said before, they would just copy it on Android and iOS. And they would also have the core services like Google services. And therefore Windows Phone stays in the rut it was in before.
    07-03-2014 10:33 PM
  18. bionicgt's Avatar
    I sometimes prefer 3rd party apps such as 6tag ... The official instagram app sucks big time!!!
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    07-04-2014 09:37 AM
  19. k0de's Avatar
    I sometimes prefer 3rd party apps such as 6tag ... The official instagram app sucks big time!!!
    Again. Small time dev's are highly appreciated. But only when their work is consider a breakthrough.

    6tag is not a breakthrough. But instead a replica of some else hard earned time work and effort.

    I don't support it, :-).

    What I am saying. And please hear me out everyone. To clarify things. Is that I believe Rudy and not only Rudy but all third party apps dev's on the Windows phone platform are very talented and skilled developers.

    So why are this dev's wasting their talents and skills on third party apps?

    And what are we trying to create? Another Android or iOS platform. Lol

    For that ill stick to buying Androids and Apple phones.

    But Windows Phone has to be unique. And different from the bunch.

    Why don't this dev's innovate and focus on creating a breakthrough for Windows phone? Rather than creating apps that exist on other platforms.

    Would that be best for the platform?

    Perhaps their innovated apps become great Windows Phones exclusives.

    Thus catapulting the OS over the competition. :-)
    Last edited by k0de; 07-04-2014 at 09:47 PM.
    07-04-2014 09:19 PM
  20. Nerdy Woman's Avatar
    Rudy is good.

    But Rudy would be excellent if he had an app concept that he created.
    Rudy may not have created the RSS Reader concept, but he has hit it out of the park with Fuse.

    There are a lot of utilities for which there is no "official" app. There are lots of devs who offer up simple apps. The true genius and challenge in that is demonstrated when devs do it better than anyone else.
    07-05-2014 06:36 AM
  21. k0de's Avatar
    Rudy may not have created the RSS Reader concept, but he has hit it out of the park with Fuse.

    There are a lot of utilities for which there is no "official" app. There are lots of devs who offer up simple apps. The true genius and challenge in that is demonstrated when devs do it better than anyone else.
    Outstanding artist and programmer is Rudy, With his talent 4 years in the making I believe instead of creating clients for companies that don't care for Windows Phones. With that talent putting myself in his shoes. I would have had created apps that are exclusive to Windows Phone.

    I am not knocking his work. And Thank you Rudy. But I wish that you will soon start to develop Windows Phone exclusive apps. :-).

    Windows Phones is in need of dev's talented like Rudy to concentrate on the platform. Not some client,
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    07-05-2014 09:39 PM
  22. Nerdy Woman's Avatar
    Outstanding artist and programmer is Rudy, With his talent 4 years in the making I believe instead of creating clients for companies that don't care for Windows Phones. With that talent putting myself in his shoes. I would have had created apps that are exclusive to Windows Phone.

    I am not knocking his work. And Thank you Rudy. But I wish that you will soon start to develop Windows Phone exclusive apps. :-).

    Windows Phones is in need of dev's talented like Rudy to concentrate on the platform. Not some client,
    Can't argue that, k0de. But how many times do we read complaints about apps that cost 99 cents or a $1.99. Consumers don't want to pay for the pizza and even devs gotta eat. I suspect that Rudy would churn out dozens of great WP apps if he could make a living doing so. An hour after installing Fuse, I was buying it. Getting rid of the ads was cool, but primarily, I believe good work should be rewarded and good devs encouraged.
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    07-07-2014 03:42 AM
  23. k0de's Avatar
    Can't argue that, k0de. But how many times do we read complaints about apps that cost 99 cents or a $1.99. Consumers don't want to pay for the pizza and even devs gotta eat. I suspect that Rudy would churn out dozens of great WP apps if he could make a living doing so. An hour after installing Fuse, I was buying it. Getting rid of the ads was cool, but primarily, I believe good work should be rewarded and good devs encouraged.
    Agree. And a good valid point Nerdy Woman.

    But primarily Rudy campaign is "Don't forget your own apps" to streamline developers.

    What good is that?

    Another Android or iOS app camouflage under the MSFT design language?

    Yuck. Help me please. Lol

    In contrast third party app dev's like Rudy have forgotten their own apps for the Windows Phone and Windows 8,1 platforms.
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    07-10-2014 10:55 PM
  24. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Sometimes 3rd party apps are less buggy than official apps.

    Since the latest official Twitter update, I'm getting duplicates of every notification in my action center.

    I also have MeTweets and Twabbit, and those apps do not have the duplicate notification bug.
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    07-10-2014 11:45 PM
  25. salmanahmad's Avatar
    I like using 3rd party clients because often people like Rudy Huyn provide a more refined experience than the official apps.

    However 3rd party clients and developers have their limitations and Rudy has been unable to implement video recording in 6snap because he finds it difficult and time consuming.

    There are limits of what 3rd party clients can do but in many places on Windows Phone they do more than what the official apps do.
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    07-10-2014 11:51 PM
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