Jas00555
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I like this Stephen Hawkings quote - 'Science will win because it works.'
I prefer Neil DeGrasse Tyson's quote -" the great thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not"
I like this Stephen Hawkings quote - 'Science will win because it works.'
You can try asking Cortana....
Dear Cortana, when will the talk about creationism and religion and beliefs and the big bang theory end?
Cortana: Sends up a Bing search =.=
One last thing before we wrap this up. Don't think that because a person believes in God and believes in creation that they are not intelligent. Throughout history many very intelligent people have also been believers. You can be both. Just like you can be a science nerd and dumb as a box of rocks at the same time. Peace out.
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Nothing wrong with talking about science. There wasn't much about religion. That would be troublesome.
Depends what you mean by intelligent.
People who don't accept science aren't dumb, just frightened.
Please stop using the word 'prove'. I have never heard anything in science that could be proven, unlike maths. Theories are there for a reason...
But can you prove that 1 + 1 = 2? You can, but only kind of. The best we can do is setup a framework that describes number theory, and then show that within that framework 1 + 1 is indeed 2, but this requires that you accept number theory to be correct... which itself is just another assumption.
If you want to see math get a little esoteric, then how about proving that 0.999 = 1? To the best of our knowledge that is true, but can you prove it? Again, you can, kind of, but only if you are willing to base it on yet more assumptions.
some examples. Is it equally reasonable to believe in all of them?
Anyway, during the last decades a huge amount of related evidence was collected and many discoveries were made, from all over the world, by people of different faiths and by scientists working independently and in different branches of science (biology, geology, physics, astronomy). The fact that all their findings (you can read about this all over the internet) point to the same conclusion, and that all their findings fit in with the model that pegs the earth at 4.5 billion years, does make that proposal sound very reasonable and very probable.
In comparison, the opposition has no evidence beyond what is written in the Bible, and requires me to do a lot of mental backflips to make their proposal even halfway plausible. Just the fact that their proposal requires me to believe that some humans lived to be 600 years old pretty much kills it for me. The requirement for me to believe that the laws of physics worked differently a few thousand years ago is even worse, particularly since we know of no other instance where this would be true. It would also mean that a supernatural being is playing a cosmic joke on us, by attempting to trick us into believing the earth is older than it actually is, for no apparent reason. No, that is definitely not how a caring God that values the truth would act.
Given these two choices, I don't think it's much of a competition as to which version is more probable. At the end though, probabilities is all we have though. Never certainty. That is my main point.
Close mindedness isn't a sign of intelligence. Understanding isn't a sign of fear.
I think you have a weird perception of what closed minded means. No good scientist is closed minded and neither am I.
I don't know what your second point is. I understand what agreeing with science means and I have no fear of it.
0.999 DOES NOT equal to 1, my humble opinions.
My view is, so what if nothing could be proven?
Surely you know this, surely you don't believe that you are simply bone, tissue, blood, etc. Does the physical body love, does it have dreams, does it aspire to be more, to accomplish?
I absolutely believe that I am "simply" bone, tissue and blood. That my behaviour, the need to love, dreams and aspirations are a result of my DNA, natural instinct, and the way my brain perceives the world I live in.
I'm sorry.
Science has undeniable proof. People like you don't want to and will not accept it no matter how undeniable. I would say more but like to keep it pleasant.Prove the earth is 4.5 billion years old and while you're at it prove how it came to be. I don't want your theories. I want undeniable proof. Ready, set, go....
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Does the physical body love, does it have dreams, does it aspire to be more, to accomplish?
Science has undeniable proof. People like you don't want to and will not accept it no matter how undeniable. I would say more but like to keep it pleasant.