08-19-2014 06:56 PM
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  1. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    As some of you might know, Microsoft has been making many mistakes lately. It got to the point where I was about to leave all of Microsoft all together, except my Xbox. I wanted to leave WP and leave Windows. Now that I've vented out, and more calm, I think I can apologize. I was angry with what Microsoft was doing and how they had nothing against other OSes.

    But since I'm better now, I think I can fully decide. First, I've decided I'm switching back to Mac. I had a Mac originally, then got the SP2 on launch. When my brother got the new 13" MBP with retina a month ago, I like it again. Now with Yosemite, Mac OS X I even prettier and better. Yesterday, I went to BOTH Microsoft and Apple stores, checked out the SP3 and 13" & 15" MBP retina versions, and I've decided I'm going to sell my EXCELLENT condition SP2 and get the MBP. And if I ever need windows, I can always use Boot Camp. On a PC, Hackintosh doesn't work very well, just saying.

    Now for WP. I'm going to stay, IF Microsoft or another OEM releases a flagship high end device before the end of the year. If not, then I'm leaving WP too. I'm tired of WAITING AND WAITING. I want the HTC One M8 WP version, but I'm on AT&T. I hope they will release a version for ATT too, even if it is a few months after Verizon. Or maybe, the Android M8's can boot WP as well. :D

    So, long story short, I think I found what's best for me.
    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 using Tapatalk
    08-03-2014 12:20 PM
  2. tgp's Avatar
    First, I've decided I'm switching back to Mac. I had a Mac originally, then got the SP2 on launch. When my brother got the new 13" MBP with retina a month ago, I like it again. Now with Yosemite, Mac OS X I even prettier and better. Yesterday, I went to BOTH Microsoft and Apple stores, checked out the SP3 and 13" & 15" MBP retina versions, and I've decided I'm going to sell my EXCELLENT condition SP2 and get the MBP. And if I ever need windows, I can always use Boot Camp.
    <snip>
    Now for WP. I'm going to stay, IF Microsoft or another OEM releases a flagship high end device before the end of the year. If not, then I'm leaving WP too.
    Fair enough.
    08-03-2014 12:42 PM
  3. Coreldan's Avatar
    Sad to hear. I suppose I can understand it from WP standpoint, but I still fail to see what MacBooks have on Surfaces. Well, perhaps if you specifically need/want laptop rather than a hybrid.

    I was just thinking today how nice it is to have every device in the same ecosystem. Be it MS, Google or Apple, but at least the same ecosystem, so I can understand switching all together more or less.

    I'm personally just pondering between SP3 and SP2. SP3 would obviously be sweeter in almost every fashion except price and the color. It's a bit silly but the color is a big deal for me. I just dont want an aluminium colored Surface. I need mine in the dark titanium. I'm hoping that when the SP3 launches here and perhaps near christmas the SP2s will be cleared from the stock for cheaper and I could pick one up. I totally 100% love everything the Surface is, does and stands for as an ideology and I think for me it's the perfect formfactor in a mobile device bigger than a phone. That's why I'd want the "latest and greatest" but the color is holding me off. Well, so is the budget :D
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    08-03-2014 12:48 PM
  4. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    Sad to hear. I suppose I can understand it from WP standpoint, but I still fail to see what MacBooks have on Surfaces. Well, perhaps if you specifically need/want laptop rather than a hybrid.

    I was just thinking today how nice it is to have every device in the same ecosystem. Be it MS, Google or Apple, but at least the same ecosystem, so I can understand switching all together more or less.

    I'm personally just pondering between SP3 and SP2. SP3 would obviously be sweeter in almost every fashion except price and the color. It's a bit silly but the color is a big deal for me. I just dont want an aluminium colored Surface. I need mine in the dark titanium. I'm hoping that when the SP3 launches here and perhaps near christmas the SP2s will be cleared from the stock for cheaper and I could pick one up. I totally 100% love everything the Surface is, does and stands for as an ideology and I think for me it's the perfect formfactor in a mobile device bigger than a phone. That's why I'd want the "latest and greatest" but the color is holding me off. Well, so is the budget :D

    Because Macs can run both Oses, so I'm not missing out, plus I need Mac OS, as I use a lot of Mac apps, like Final Cut Pro and XCode.
    08-03-2014 02:02 PM
  5. Coreldan's Avatar
    Can you also use the Mac as a touch enabled laptop and when need be take out or fold back the keyboard to make it into a tablet? :D

    That said, I fail to see what good/better the actual OS offers either in comparison, outside preference I guess
    08-03-2014 02:14 PM
  6. JamesPTao's Avatar
    Because Macs can run both Oses, so I'm not missing out, plus I need Mac OS, as I use a lot of Mac apps, like Final Cut Pro and XCode.
    Are you talking about dual boot or running windows through vm ware?
    08-03-2014 02:14 PM
  7. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    Can you also use the Mac as a touch enabled laptop and when need be take out or fold back the keyboard to make it into a tablet? :D

    That said, I fail to see what good/better the actual OS offers either in comparison, outside preference I guess

    For the time I've had the SP2, I haven't used it as a tablet. So I think I'll be fine.
    08-03-2014 02:35 PM
  8. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    Are you talking about dual boot or running windows through vm ware?

    Boot camp. :)
    08-03-2014 02:35 PM
  9. Jas00555's Avatar
    For the time I've had the SP2, I haven't used it as a tablet. So I think I'll be fine.
    Just out of curiosity.... If you've never used the thing as a tablet, why did you buy it in the first place? I personally my SP3 as a tablet a decent amount. There are many high-quality Windows laptops that are arguably better laptops than the SP line.

    If you really need Mac software, fair enough, you need it and should buy it. I personally do not and I would find the modern apps to be more cumbersome to use on a non-touch screen and would thus prefer the Surface hardware.
    08-03-2014 02:48 PM
  10. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    Just out of curiosity.... If you've never used the thing as a tablet, why did you buy it in the first place? I personally my SP3 as a tablet a decent amount. There are many high-quality Windows laptops that are arguably better laptops than the SP line.

    If you really need Mac software, fair enough, you need it and should buy it. I personally do not and I would find the modern apps to be more cumbersome to use on a non-touch screen and would thus prefer the Surface hardware.

    I've actually used it a few times, but it was too weird to hold and use as a tablet.
    08-03-2014 02:53 PM
  11. rdubmu's Avatar
    I think the thing you will miss the most is the touch screen. I just got a SP3 and love it, bigger screen. I also own an iMac which is a great OS, but I hate how slow office and other apps run on it. If I put Windows on it, the computer would fly. But I find windows is much better with touch. Mac's done offer this.

    Either way, I am not sure why you feel Microsoft is messing up, Windows 8.1 is a joy to use and it runs very well. I love the upgrade in size from the SP1 to the SP3. Its great to use.

    I have gone the opposite and I have abandoned Windows Phone because of the apps. It is frustrating not be able to use the apps I needed for work. It actually put me behind on several projected verses my peers. I am currently using an IPhone 5s and SP3, they work great together and I love how Icloud syncs to Outlook 2013.

    Sent from my Surface Pro 3 using Tapatalk
    08-03-2014 04:00 PM
  12. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I think the thing you will miss the most is the touch screen. I just got a SP3 and love it, bigger screen. I also own an iMac which is a great OS, but I hate how slow office and other apps run on it. If I put Windows on it, the computer would fly. But I find windows is much better with touch. Mac's done offer this.

    Either way, I am not sure why you feel Microsoft is messing up, Windows 8.1 is a joy to use and it runs very well. I love the upgrade in size from the SP1 to the SP3. Its great to use.

    I have gone the opposite and I have abandoned Windows Phone because of the apps. It is frustrating not be able to use the apps I needed for work. It actually put me behind on several projected verses my peers. I am currently using an IPhone 5s and SP3, they work great together and I love how Icloud syncs to Outlook 2013.

    Sent from my Surface Pro 3 using Tapatalk
    I actually went to Best Buy today, and AGAIN saw both the SP3 and the 13" MBP Retina, and a billion other PCs with touch, and I liked the MBP more.

    And actually, if there is no WP for AT&T by September, or I can't get the M8 WP for AT&T (unlocked or locked), I'm leaving WP too, as I can't keep waiting for the next WP. If they make a 1030 or 935, I'll get it, but it has to come out soon. If not, I'm getting the iPhone 6 or Moto X+1 (64GB model).
    08-07-2014 02:12 AM
  13. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    Aye, I feel that a lot of Nokia fans (such as myself) feel the same, about the waiting game.

    One of the things that sucked about Symbian was how it turned out to be a waiting game. And, Maemo was a project that never really got off the ground.
    The people who weren't burnt out by the "Burning Platforms" announcement then hoped that it wouldn't turn into a waiting game. Well, we all know what happened after that.

    I'm stuck on Microsoft platforms for the next year or two, but where Nokia goes, I may follow. If they go Android, I'll retaliate by buying a Jolla, assuming they don't fold by then. Oh, and Windows on my PCs. Always.
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    08-07-2014 07:28 AM
  14. tgp's Avatar
    If not, I'm getting the iPhone 6 or Moto X+1 (64GB model).
    If you do that, will you change your avatar to a picture of Steve Ballmer holding an iPhone 6 or Moto X+1 (whichever applies)?
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    08-07-2014 08:23 AM
  15. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    If you do that, will you change your avatar to a picture of Steve Ballmer holding an iPhone 6 or Moto X+1 (whichever applies)?
    That's actually a great idea. It will probably be Jobs though. ;)
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    08-07-2014 12:43 PM
  16. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    By the way, will you stay an ambassador if you switch platforms?
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    08-08-2014 08:03 AM
  17. jmshub's Avatar
    As an enthusiast, we tend to overthink these things a lot. I will continue to use Windows PCs for the immediate future. They serve my purposes better than any competing platform.

    I really would like to see a new flagship Windows Phone in the US before the year is out, but again, the lure of new and shiny doesn't take away from the fact that my 920 is still serving my needs quite well.
    08-08-2014 10:40 AM
  18. worldspy99's Avatar
    To not be in this boat I just recently upgraded to the 925, that way if at all it will be sour grapes for me some time next year. My trusty 810 will be a good backup, especially for international trips. I also use N7 as my tablet. I just cannot see myself going to iOS, something about it just turns me off and I do have an iPad running the latest version of iOS 7.

    I also am getting a bit active over on a sister site (AC) and use the Moto X and N5. I am intrigued by the OnePlus One as well.
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    08-08-2014 11:46 AM
  19. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I mean, I have every eye of getting a burnt orange! 930. But I'm waiting for the price to drop into my wheelhouse. In the intern, I'll use my 925 to compliment my N5. The moto x is impressive but I may pass on it. I think contrary to my username MSFT has a solid base in 8.0, to 8.1, but they need to add more stuff during the GDR updates. GDR 1 looks to be a good start, but more is needed. I'll continue to use both WP and Android as iOS ain't my cup of tea.

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    08-08-2014 11:04 PM
  20. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    By the way, will you stay an ambassador if you switch platforms?
    Yes, for sure. :)
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    08-09-2014 02:22 AM
  21. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I mean, I have every eye of getting a burnt orange! 930. But I'm waiting for the price to drop into my wheelhouse. In the intern, I'll use my 925 to compliment my N5. The moto x is impressive but I may pass on it. I think contrary to my username MSFT has a solid base in 8.0, to 8.1, but they need to add more stuff during the GDR updates. GDR 1 looks to be a good start, but more is needed. I'll continue to use both WP and Android as iOS ain't my cup of tea.

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    I'm confused, you like the Moto X and have it and the N5, but you don't like it? Because your signature says you have the Moto X.

    ​I like Android L a lot, and thinking of getting the Moto X+1 if they have a 64GB model, as the rumors said base model is 32GB no microSD.
    08-09-2014 02:26 AM
  22. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm confused, you like the Moto X and have it and the N5, but you don't like it? Because your signature says you have the Moto X.

    ​I like Android L a lot, and thinking of getting the Moto X+1 if they have a 64GB model, as the rumors said base model is 32GB no microSD.
    I had a moto x (AT&T model i unlocked) for the past week. Used it for an extended test run yesterday. I enjoyed using it. If i wasnt in a position to get a great condition Nexus 5 without spending much cash, i would have bought a brand new moto x during the sale that ended on thursday. At the end of the day, the newer processor and better screen won out over the "glance"/active notifications and more ergonomically friendly moto X. I rooted and Xperia-fied my N5 today by adding Sony's Walkman app, keyboard and other OEM apps. So i basically am running a Sony style look on my N5, which i really like.

    That was the true reason for getting a Nexus - the development options are better supported and you can more easily find ported over stuff. Some of is have to be creative when upgrading on a budget. I wanted to potentially get the X+1, but i am keeping my N5 and buying a 930 brand new instead - when the price comes down to my liking.

    The N5 has at least another year (arguably two from a XDA perspective) of support so this will serve me well.

    I've used so many phones over the year i am not liked into one OS. Whole i with Android and WP played nicer, i can still manipulate Android enough where if i use one as a daily driver, my drop off from WP from a personal UI usage perspective isn't as bad as says, going to iOS.

    Posted Approved by Nexus 5
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    08-09-2014 07:56 PM
  23. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I had a moto x (AT&T model i unlocked) for the past week. Used it for an extended test run yesterday. I enjoyed using it. If i wasnt in a position to get a great condition Nexus 5 without spending much cash, i would have bought a brand new moto x during the sale that ended on thursday. At the end of the day, the newer processor and better screen won out over the "glance"/active notifications and more ergonomically friendly moto X. I rooted and Xperia-fied my N5 today by adding Sony's Walkman app, keyboard and other OEM apps. So i basically am running a Sony style look on my N5, which i really like.

    That was the true reason for getting a Nexus - the development options are better supported and you can more easily find ported over stuff. Some of is have to be creative when upgrading on a budget. I wanted to potentially get the X+1, but i am keeping my N5 and buying a 930 brand new instead - when the price comes down to my liking.

    The N5 has at least another year (arguably two from a XDA perspective) of support so this will serve me well.

    I've used so many phones over the year i am not liked into one OS. Whole i with Android and WP played nicer, i can still manipulate Android enough where if i use one as a daily driver, my drop off from WP from a personal UI usage perspective isn't as bad as says, going to iOS.

    Posted Approved by Nexus 5

    Appreciate the feedback. :)
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    08-09-2014 08:16 PM
  24. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Appreciate the feedback. :)
    No problem. Using the moto x confirmed my thoughts...based on my needs, I'd go Sony and Motorola, then Nexus for my Android needs. HTC has the best OEM skin around, and Samsung is still a joke. No one in Android has a camera I'd use over Nokia at this point.

    If I were still running my 810 only and were upgrading to 2 phones (and keeping only 2) right now, I'd buy a G3 and a 930. G3 is the best all around device out, even though the UI is still messy for my taste. Still, there are many choices and if one is willing to be creative, you can find good stuff. For me, my minimum requirements now are: S800 processor or better, 16GB + SD slot or 32GB internal storage or better, 2GB of RAM or better. In my stable, the Z Ultra, N5 and eventually the 930 meet that. I'll keep my 925 as a back up WP, as it is still the best looking model out there (8X a close second).

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    08-09-2014 09:02 PM
  25. worldspy99's Avatar
    Just sold my G2 which was rooted and running SlimKat with Google Now launcher and very close to the N5. But the camera is woeful. I agree that Android has a long way to go in terms of camera performance.
    08-10-2014 10:30 AM
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