Time to shine Microsoft!!!!

[jjmurphy]

Quick question..... Did you intentionally skip what I wrote where I showed exactly what their ToS were or did you just read it and decided to write this anyways. Yes, you are allowed to keep nude photos on OneDrive, you're just not allowed to put them in your public folder and share them.

​I would guess they went with the bolded part. People talk out of their asses a lot.

 

[DavidinCT]

Strong password and two step authentication make it easier to prevent these hacking incidents.

As I could not agree more but, after about 2 weeks of doing this every day, I am sure it will be disabled for most people....

Yea, I have the 2 level security, esp on private stuff, so I log into my live account, then wait for MS to send a text with a number, type it in, then I can access my content....

Dam, I could not or would not do that every day ! The fact of the matter is, Nothing is unhackable, if someone with the skill set wanted to get in, guess what? they will.

It's like people in high crime areas always leaving lights on around their house, it will not stop a crime but, it will der them from actually doing it. So a stronger password at least would be the best bet for most of these people....

You live in and learn....

I have not seen them, where are all these "stolen" images anyway ?

 

[Rodrigo Pereira Teixeira]

With the news that more than 100 icloud accounts belonging to actors and singers have been hacked using the brute force attack, shouldn't Microsoft make a campaign around the fact that OneDrive is a much safer/securer option for users. I'm not saying give these people free windows phones.... Just steer them towards OneDrive....

Never marketing over a disaster. First rule of business.

 

[lerimer]

You can't keep nudity on OneDrive and most of those celebs had nudes on their iCloud. Also, Microsoft actually checks your mail/cloud to see if you have anything "morally unsuitable" (You know, these corporations are all very morally upright and you should be the same),



That said...there is no safe cloud in general, even less if it's in the US. Cloud is not safe. Full stop. It will never be. Something residing in someone else's device (in this case a server) whose safety is based on shaky promises and as shaky encryption in a country where spying and technocontrol has become accepted and standardized is an empty promise.

That's not entirely true. I have a ton of nude pics and videos in my OneDrive. "Remember how they get synched automatically from my phone," as long as they don't end up in a public folder your ok. Microsoft tends to scan the public folders since they are.... Well...... Public.

 

[realwarder]

Enable two-factor authentication on any/all of these accounts and you'd be much safer...

 

[herbertsnow]

Enable two-factor authentication on any/all of these accounts and you'd be much safer...

But two-factor authentication is such a pain in the ***. I had to turn it off since it was driving me crazy.

 

[Benito Sifuentes]

OneDrive allows it just not in public.. Microsoft knows everyone wants access to their nudes any where any time....

 

[EC Translating Services]

Quick question..... Did you intentionally skip what I wrote where I showed exactly what their ToS were or did you just read it and decided to write this anyways. Yes, you are allowed to keep nude photos on OneDrive, you're just not allowed to put them in your public folder and share them.

Hi Jas,
First of all my apologies as it's not my habit to ignore people. I hadn't seen your post. But the core point is that i simply don't accept anyone (including non human scanning robots) scanning my folders (as Google does and as Microsoft does and not only) to see if i am complying to any arbitrary corporate law generated by a country that's not mine. I do translations but i am also specializing in another non-translation field and what the US are doing in this way is enforcing domestic legislation on a global scale. This is simply illegal, but it's also ill-directed.

So while you may have a point in what you say, my point takes the issue at a different level (for which a wider discussion would be required and WP Central is not the place, since here we talk technology and not security, international law and international relations). Put simply, (In a dimension suited for WP Central), nobody has any right to stick nose in my content. It used to be so only till a few years ago. If you allow your kids to be born in a controlled society and make them think it's all fine just because everyone complies then you're losing your freedom. + as an adult i don't tolerate someone up above (except God in the flesh) checking on my life till i do something really bad. What these companies are doing is stealing your life, crumble by crumble and since it happens very slowly you don't feel how are you being chocked!
Leaving these items aside, who grants you that part of your non-nude content can't be reused by a corporation to take advantage of a competitor?

Let's say i translate UIs for Nokia and Nokia is launching an innovative WP device and the UI is a mystery except for a few ones including those translating it (which it happens). I put all my stuff in GDrive.......even encrypted with PGP (which is weak by now), and a few months later the UI somewhat leaks.....nobody knows how.......i had it safe in my Gdrive, even encrypted. Who grants me someone (corporate side, not hackers) didn't scan my contents and found my work in there and took a copy?

Bear in mind that the US stole at least 3 huge contracts to EU much before Snowden in this very way. Spying on companies and spoiling contracts.

I hope this explains where i am coming from.

My content is mine. You as a company sell me your storage and what i put it in is none of your business. This includes shared folders.

That's my take.

 

[ams963]

As I could not agree more but, after about 2 weeks of doing this every day, I am sure it will be disabled for most people....

Yea, I have the 2 level security, esp on private stuff, so I log into my live account, then wait for MS to send a text with a number, type it in, then I can access my content....

Dam, I could not or would not do that every day ! The fact of the matter is, Nothing is unhackable, if someone with the skill set wanted to get in, guess what? they will.

It's like people in high crime areas always leaving lights on around their house, it will not stop a crime but, it will der them from actually doing it. So a stronger password at least would be the best bet for most of these people....

You live in and learn....

I have not seen them, where are all these "stolen" images anyway ?

I totally agree. The only foolproof plan is to remain an uninteresting, non-celebrity average Joe. Hackers simply wouldn't care to waste their time getting your grumpy pics. LOL.

 

[ams963]

I have not seen them, where are all these "stolen" images anyway ?

I couldn't find them either. Maybe the sites took them down for fear of legal actions.

 

[YanivC]

SportDriver. 100% correct. People always go for the big boy. Why are there so many windows hacks? Because it has by far the largest user base and therefore people attack it most. Why did they go for iCloud? Because by far iPhone has the largest user base (shut up Fandroids this is not a discussion) so iCloud got hacked. Why are there so many Android viruses.... because by far it is the worst OS out there lolol. Honestly theres a fine line between "open" and "*****" lol

 

[ams963]

SportDriver. 100% correct. People always go for the big boy. Why are there so many windows hacks? Because it has by far the largest user base and therefore people attack it most. Why did they go for iCloud? Because by far iPhone has the largest user base (shut up Fandroids this is not a discussion) so iCloud got hacked. Why are there so many Android viruses.... because by far it is the worst OS out there lolol. Honestly theres a fine line between "open" and "*****" lol

Couldn't agree more.

 

[EC Translating Services]

That's not entirely true. I have a ton of nude pics and videos in my OneDrive. "Remember how they get synched automatically from my phone," as long as they don't end up in a public folder your ok. Microsoft tends to scan the public folders since they are.... Well...... Public.

Go read section 3 of the OneDrive terms of use and you'll see you're not right. Doesn't take much. They scan ALL content with software applications and If they only suspect (SUSPECT) that you may have something infringing their rules they then rely on human operators to dig into the issue (it means checking on your data). It may be right or you may end up digging my wive pics dressing like a really dirty nurse OR something else you're not supposed to see.
Leaving this aside, i explained that treating adults like little children (and next generations are growing already trained like this so they don't know what freedom is) is not a wise path to take. You may realize this in the future; it won't take long for you to understand.

 

[herbertsnow]

As I could not agree more but, after about 2 weeks of doing this every day, I am sure it will be disabled for most people....

Yea, I have the 2 level security, esp on private stuff, so I log into my live account, then wait for MS to send a text with a number, type it in, then I can access my content....

Dam, I could not or would not do that every day ! The fact of the matter is, Nothing is unhackable, if someone with the skill set wanted to get in, guess what? they will.

It's like people in high crime areas always leaving lights on around their house, it will not stop a crime but, it will der them from actually doing it. So a stronger password at least would be the best bet for most of these people....

You live in and learn....

I have not seen them, where are all these "stolen" images anyway ?

You should be using the Microsoft Authenticator app. Then you don't have to wait for the text.

 

[Pete]

Go read section 3 of the OneDrive terms of use and you'll see you're not right. Doesn't take much. They scan ALL content with software applications and If they only suspect (SUSPECT) that you may have something infringing their rules they then rely on human operators to dig into the issue (it means checking on your data). It may be right or you may end up digging my wive pics dressing like a really dirty nurse OR something else you're not supposed to see.
Leaving this aside, i explained that treating adults like little children (and next generations are growing already trained like this so they don't know what freedom is) is not a wise path to take. You may realize this in the future; it won't take long for you to understand.

Well, you're mis-interpreting the clause here, or misunderstanding the technology.

The clause in question here is at the end of section 3

In many cases Microsoft is alerted to violations of the Code of Conduct through customer complaints, but we also deploy automated technologies to detect child pornography or abusive behavior that might harm the system, our customers, or others. When investigating these matters, Microsoft or its agents will review Content in order to resolve the issue. This is in addition to the uses we describe in this Agreement and the Privacy Statements.

I've emboldened the part in question. Microsoft has an automated system that scans peoples content (private or public) for content with a known signature, created from a database of known child pornography/abuse images. This is done to combat the sharing of images by "rings" of abusers. There's nothing here to indicate that Microsoft or anyone else has algorithms to detect nudity.

Microsoft is at pains to tell you that your data belongs to you. The will inspect your content in the same way that they would do as part of a virus scan, but this doesn't mean that they have the right to take your data as an when they please. There's been cases in the news where Microsoft have point blank refused to release emails to law enforcement agencies, they've also had to work extremely hard in bringing to justice one of their own ex-employees who leaked early Azure builds (and this was a Hotmail account, Microsoft had to work within it's own privacy rules).

Your data belongs to you, no one else.

 

[Pete]

Be aware that discussion regarding the location for the leaked images is off-topic and people should not be asking for the location (in the same way that people shouldn't ask for pirated software etc).

 

[heickelrrx]

Still if you didn't have anything to steal you don't have to worry about anything.

I'm a collage student at some private university. And I don't see anything that worth get hacked (except my game account lol).

If you got some such important files like company paperwork I doubt your company competitor goes that far to steal data. As far as I know if company have a secret they didn't upload it to cloud service but create backup somewhere else.

The thing is why those celebrity upload those photo. I don't know about they reason but I don't see any good reason to upload those hacked photo to iCloud at the first place.

PS: Any hacker who read this please don't try hack m game account I I'm so poor don't make me ever poorer

 

[Richard Culverhouse]

That's not entirely true. I have a ton of nude pics and videos in my OneDrive.

Why not upload it all to iCloud, just to be super safe...? / S

And to those saying it was hacked because of popularity: There are surely many more OneDrive accounts. Think of all the phones and tablets combined, the Windows 8* accounts, the office subscriptions that include the storage....
Anyone know the numbers for iCloud vs OneDrive?

And Apple says it was brute force attacks used, not the iCloud vulnerability, and are instantly believed. Yeah, I am sure they'd have admitted that and opened themselves up to a ****load of lawsuits lol.

 

[Jas00555]

Why not upload it all to iCloud, just to be super safe...? / S

And to those saying it was hacked because of popularity: There are surely many more OneDrive accounts. Think of all the phones and tablets combined, the Windows 8* accounts, the office subscriptions that include the storage....
Anyone know the numbers for iCloud vs OneDrive?

And Apple says it was brute force attacks used, not the iCloud vulnerability, and are instantly believed. Yeah, I am sure they'd have admitted that and opened themselves up to a ****load of lawsuits lol.

I think they're very close, but iCloud has a few more. Last reports were that Apple has 300 million "active" accounts while Microsoft has 285 "active" accounts (for the record, I think that Apple, Microsoft, and Google all fudge their numbers a little bit).

Even then, it still only happened because Apple had a huge security flaw. It doesn't make any sense to target iCloud when OneDrive has a lot of business people (who I would argue are worth a lot more than some of these celebrities).

 

[Richard Culverhouse]

...It doesn't make any sense to target iCloud when OneDrive has a lot of business people (who I would argue are worth a lot more than some of these celebrities).

Ah, but do the business people store nude selfies on OneDrive...? lol