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  1. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    .I can understand them no longer offering unlimited storage but cutting back to 5GB and removing the 15GB camera roll option for existing users?!

    I am guessing the reason they did this to current users, is that there are a large number of people who have likely exceeded the original 5GB by now. Most people would find it a hassle to move that amount of data elsewhere so there is a good chance they will pay to keep it.
    11-03-2015 02:23 PM
  2. Demian Mioc's Avatar
    When I bought Lumia, there was OneDrive offer bundled with it. MSFT showed untrustworthy and inconsistent. Today I've removed all my stuff from OneDrive and put to other cloud service and on external hard drive.

    Idem tamo gdje je sve po mom.
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    11-03-2015 02:48 PM
  3. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    .I can understand them no longer offering unlimited storage but cutting back to 5GB and removing the 15GB camera roll option for existing users?!

    I am guessing the reason they did this to current users, is that there are a large number of people who have likely exceeded the original 5GB by now. Most people would find it a hassle to move that amount of data elsewhere so there is a good chance they will pay to keep it.
    I probably would pay 2$, but just because I decided to develop little apps and I do not want to have both android and lumias so I will stick to lumia BUT if I didn't develop for MS I would probably have gone and bought a super uber android phone and call it a day. And I really don't like android UI....
    11-03-2015 02:50 PM
  4. Great deal's Avatar
    When all is said and done I feel 10TB upper limit is justifiable and would offer good value as part of Office 365. This would stop those trying to put everything from everywhere onto OneDrive, especially the education institutions whoe are the guilty ones of 75TB+.
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    11-03-2015 03:00 PM
  5. mikepalma's Avatar
    When all is said and done I feel 10TB upper limit is justifiable and would offer good value as part of Office 365. This would stop those trying to put everything from everywhere onto OneDrive, especially the education institutions whoe are the guilty ones of 75TB+.
    It's freakin called ONEDrive!
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    11-03-2015 03:23 PM
  6. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    When all is said and done I feel 10TB upper limit is justifiable and would offer good value as part of Office 365. This would stop those trying to put everything from everywhere onto OneDrive, especially the education institutions whoe are the guilty ones of 75TB+.
    I don't think most users are having a problem with them deciding not to offer unlimited anymore, but more the fact that existing users at the low end have had their feet cut off. I am guessing most users fall into the low end and Microsoft needed to find a way to make them pay. A lot of people I know mainly take photos and not much video and even 15GB would last them quite a while before needing to pay otherwise!
    11-03-2015 03:32 PM
  7. agd87's Avatar
    I can't believe they've done this. It's completely out of order. I'm not going to run off and join another cloud; It's going to cause such an inconvenience to download and delete files.

    I understand it's a free service but they've tempted us to increase our GB by doing this and that and now they've taken it away.
    11-03-2015 03:59 PM
  8. Finchee's Avatar
    Wow the people in the comments section of the OneDrive blog post are livid. I must say that this is a dumb move by Microsoft.

    BTW, after the changes are done in 2016, the $1.99 plan is only going to get you 50GB, instead of 100GB.
    11-03-2015 04:06 PM
  9. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    I can't believe they've done this. It's completely out of order. I'm not going to run off and join another cloud; It's going to cause such an inconvenience to download and delete files.
    Now that's what they like to hear lol
    11-03-2015 04:07 PM
  10. rocketboy's Avatar
    I've been on this since it was LiveMesh.

    Not happy.

    I've accumulated a lot of legacy, phone, surface purchase, bing rewards, credits over the years. After much hesitancy about depending on OneDrive space for this very reason I've been finally going more cloud store this year. I was almost tempted to even move my photos over and sunset my flickr account (giving away 1TB for all users, but I've been a paying user since 2008). Now this.

    This has taught me now to never trust one provider for all your needs (a good policy that takes some will to execute). Maybe my songs should go to the amazon cloud, the photos and videos to flickr, and random general files stay on OneDrive.
    11-03-2015 05:03 PM
  11. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    I don't have any problem with reneging on unlimited. It clearly is not even physically possible, so should never have been taken literally. But they do end up looking bad to anyone who didn't realize that.

    I don't have a problem changing the amount of space you get for free or the price they charge for space in the future. They are selling something; they have the right to change the price to whatever they want. I think they may have chosen prices that hurt them more than help, but that's another topic.

    But telling anyone that they had to do these things and cut back reasonable usage because a few people did something "bad" is unacceptable. It's unacceptable because its a lie. Its like telling someone they had no choice but to blow up an apartment building because a tenant was playing music too loud. It's so obviously a lie that even a politician couldn't say it without blushing.
    L Beezy, a5cent, Uta Hiro and 6 others like this.
    11-03-2015 06:16 PM
  12. mileRunner's Avatar
    Someone's got a petition going at change.org
    https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-g...edium=copylink
    Great deal and AlliGe like this.
    11-03-2015 07:30 PM
  13. DJCBS's Avatar
    There's already talks about MS doing something similar with Windows 10. Giving it away for free and then once it has a large user base start making changes. See it's changes like that that create paranoia in people about a company. It's a trust issue.
    The moment they try to charge any sort of subscription for Windows 10 after saying "it's free, forever" is the moment they'll simply shoot Windows in the head and give an immense boost to OS X, ChromeOS (which I am betting by then will be unified with Android, despite Google's current denial), Linux and Pirated versions of Windows.
    I have a Windows 7 and Windows 8 disk. One of the advantages Windows 10 offered me that Windows 7 didn't was the integration with OneDrive. But since OneDrive will become - come 2016 and unless they reverse this - useless, the appeal of Windows 10 to me is basically gone. If they try to charge me for it I'll simply pick up the Windows 7 disk, format the PC and go back to Windows 7.

    As for cloud solutions, I'm currently moving everything to Google Drive (which, what do you know, just offered me 100GB extra for 2 years when I opened their Android app which I had never done since moving to Android because I kept using OneDrive) and I'll just get myself a WD My Cloud, set up a personal cloud and be done with it.
    And honestly, even if Microsoft reverses these decisions, my confidence is already broken. I won't use OneDrive as my main cloud solution ever again because I simply don't trust Microsoft anymore to upheld their part of the bargain. Now they say Office 365 users will still get 1TB...but who's to tell me that in 6 months they won't change their minds and reduce that to 500GB?
    11-03-2015 07:51 PM
  14. Bradleykinz's Avatar
    I have only used just over 3gb of space out of the 30gb I have available, not to thrilled that it will get downgraded to only 5gb. I loved using onedrive on my computer, phone, and xbox one. I understand they save money on this move but I would rather have them only downgrade it to 10gb for free users, it would make me happier if that was the case.
    11-03-2015 09:11 PM
  15. djeire84's Avatar
    Are you actually serious? My phone only has 8GB internal storage and without my class 10 32GB card helps but with older photos and other media its great to have access to my files on OneDrive. This dramatic reduction in storage means ill have to either pay extra for more storage or get a bigger sd card, I already pay for storage and im super peeved!!! Disgraceful!!!
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    11-03-2015 09:21 PM
  16. Angry_Mushroom's Avatar
    Well. I guess it's time to buy an SD card and start manually uploading my photos via USB. No huge deal since I tend to use OneDrive almost exclusively for word docs. Still kinda sucks they're taking away the 30 gigs of free storage from previous users. It's not like I can abuse 30 gigs.
    Krystianpants likes this.
    11-03-2015 10:00 PM
  17. CygnusOrion's Avatar
    I bet Microsoft realizes how bad they ****ed up with this and comes back with a tiered-approach on Friday.
    11-03-2015 10:10 PM
  18. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Well it should be much cheaper.

    Cloud is more flexible, reachable and safe; it works automatically that's why people love it. Just sayng!
    I think for the majority of lumia users worldwide, flash storage or pc storage is more accessible than cloud storage. Internet isn't available everywhere all the time you know. I have to go hunting for wifi so I can update my pc and phone every week.
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    11-03-2015 11:03 PM
  19. kmalone43's Avatar
    For everyone complaining about losing their 15-30 free GBs, wah. It's $2 a month or get it for further for free for an entire year when checking out office 365. This is an industry norm and a service that you should have not been expecting to get for free your entire life considering the quality of the application.
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    11-03-2015 11:20 PM
  20. Penny_1's Avatar
    For everyone complaining about losing their 15-30 free GBs, wah. It's $2 a month or get it for further for free for an entire year when checking out office 365. This is an industry norm and a service that you should have not been expecting to get for free your entire life considering the quality of the application.
    This is not about the money. Can everybody on this forum afford the $2 per month for additional storage? I would venture to guess yes.

    This is about Microsoft's continuing tradition of ineptitude. OneDrive was one of the most solid features across Windows devices. It is probably the best example of what a universal platform could mean on Windows. It drove usage by being both extremely convenient and extremely accessible. This move makes it far less convenient, and slightly less accessible. What this change means to me, as a user, is that I can no longer sync my pertinent documents and photos to the cloud in a worry-free manner.

    I'm not the biggest user at about 15GB used so far, but I've been a long time Windows Phone and Windows user who has a ton of documents and the camera rolls from all of my WP devices on it. You know who this affecting most? Regular Windows and Windows Phone users who actually relied on OneDrive for this type of syncing and cloud storage accessibility. You know who it affects least? People who want to store masses of data in the cloud, and would likely be willing to jump to any cloud storage solution that offers the space.

    So Microsoft's statement in all of this is that they are doing this because the latter type of user was abusing the unlimited storage. But what they are really doing is enraging Windows Phone, Windows 8, and Windows 10 users above all else -- their most supportive customers.

    There is no way to paint this announcement in a good light. It was simply one of the stupidest things they could do as a company. My trust issues with Microsoft are not about data and utility; they are about Microsoft's continued ineptitude.
    Last edited by a5cent; 11-04-2015 at 01:48 AM. Reason: language edit
    11-04-2015 01:04 AM
  21. a5cent's Avatar
    This is not about the money. Can everybody on this forum afford the $2 per month for additional storage? I would venture to guess yes.

    This is about Microsoft's continuing tradition of ineptitude. OneDrive was one of the most solid features across Windows devices.
    Up until now, it was MS' marketing department that payed for the bandwidth, the online storage, and their geographically distributed replication and failover infrastructure that ensures our data remains safe and accessible.

    The fact that we're now being asked to pitch in doesn't make OneDrive any less solid. OneDrive is still just as solid as it ever was. Since we can all afford $2 it's also just as accessible, and then possibly even more useful, as that gets us 3x the online storage.

    The galling part is only in how the changes were communicated. Nobody believes the changes are being made because of a few abuses. This was (unsurprisingly) always the plan. They should just have been honest and stated that OneDrive's success and rapid growth can no longer be financed purely as a promotional effort, and that they hope those who use it extensively will be willing to pitch in their fair share.

    I agree that MS should probably not have changed the quotas for those using the online camera roll, at least not for Lumia users. It seems that's an area where they need more promotional efforts, not less, but that's a different topic.
    Last edited by a5cent; 11-04-2015 at 01:52 AM. Reason: last scentence
    11-04-2015 01:41 AM
  22. Sagar Limaye's Avatar
    This is not about the money. Can everybody on this forum afford the $2 per month for additional storage? I would venture to guess yes.

    This is about Microsoft's continuing tradition of ineptitude. ent documents and photos to the cloud in a worry-free manner.
    Spot on.

    I'm going to tell everyone who I convinced to start using OneDrive to switch. I'm never defending Microsoft's services again.

    I'm uninstalling my insider build as a sign of protest.
    11-04-2015 01:42 AM
  23. Arunabha Goswami's Avatar
    MS logic - if we continue to provide free users with 30GB storage, people with unlimited storage will abuse the system.

    What do you say to something like that?
    11-04-2015 01:59 AM
  24. Great deal's Avatar
    The moment they try to charge any sort of subscription for Windows 10 after saying "it's free, forever" is the moment they'll simply shoot Windows in the head and give an immense boost to OS X, ChromeOS (which I am betting by then will be unified with Android, despite Google's current denial), Linux and Pirated versions of Windows.
    I have a Windows 7 and Windows 8 disk. One of the advantages Windows 10 offered me that Windows 7 didn't was the integration with OneDrive. But since OneDrive will become - come 2016 and unless they reverse this - useless, the appeal of Windows 10 to me is basically gone. If they try to charge me for it I'll simply pick up the Windows 7 disk, format the PC and go back to Windows 7.

    As for cloud solutions, I'm currently moving everything to Google Drive (which, what do you know, just offered me 100GB extra for 2 years when I opened their Android app which I had never done since moving to Android because I kept using OneDrive) and I'll just get myself a WD My Cloud, set up a personal cloud and be done with it.
    And honestly, even if Microsoft reverses these decisions, my confidence is already broken. I won't use OneDrive as my main cloud solution ever again because I simply don't trust Microsoft anymore to upheld their part of the bargain. Now they say Office 365 users will still get 1TB...but who's to tell me that in 6 months they won't change their minds and reduce that to 500GB?
    This! - Its all about trust. People configure thier systems for the lives they live. Onedrive is a central digital cog in peoples machines and the mere fact they can renege and change the size of the cog means a lot of inconvenience to people, also to never trust the company that did it.
    11-04-2015 02:11 AM
  25. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Here's an interesting scenario that happened in my university last year.

    Our university and every other university in Kenya has google apps for education (GAFE). We get email, drive, calendar, docs, groups and other apps for free as student users. The added benefit was, initially we were getting 25GB drive storage which got bumped to unlimited storage. I mean truly unlimited storage. This was done worldwide for all GAFE accounts in all universities where Google apps are being used for education.

    When did Google change from 25GB to unlimited? Around the same time Onedrive offered unlimited storage for office 365 users (which was actually reserve 10TB and get more later)

    Now as far as I know, GAFE accounts are still having unlimited storage while office 365 users have 1TB. The difference in this case is that in my university, when you leave the college, your google email and services still work. But the office 365 for students account expires the moment you leave the college. So who has the better offer?

    The only reason I don't use Google drive is because it cannot recognise that I'm uploading the same file again and hence will keep multiple copies of my files. This is a very irritating issue and I cannot have several copies of all my photos. Hence my being one onedrive
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    11-04-2015 02:35 AM
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