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  1. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    normally i have only couple of docs maybe some pics on one drive usualy less than 2gb, but im going to fill it with crap while i can just so i can get one year of free office 365
    What? Did MS do something really dumb like give Office 365 to anyone who is using more than the "new" lower free space as a consolation? Usually only our government can come up with schemes that have such bad unintended consequences. LoL
    ven07 likes this.
    11-04-2015 05:31 PM
  2. Demian Mioc's Avatar
    I'm reading about Tencent Weiyun, Chinese tech company which has 1B users, owns QQ IM app etc, they offer 10TB of free cloud storage!!!! It's insane.
    ven07 likes this.
    11-04-2015 05:39 PM
  3. Nokia5110's Avatar
    OneDrive NO, lack of progress in the OS yes! Contacts is a nightmare, attach excel file, lack of OTG ......
    11-04-2015 05:39 PM
  4. rafal soboczynski's Avatar
    apparently so, if you have more than 5gb on your onedrive when switch is being made you will be notified that you cab claim one year membership for office 365 for free
    ven07 likes this.
    11-04-2015 06:08 PM
  5. Witness's Avatar
    Considering the next chapter of wp is just round the corner, their timing sucks a little to say the least! This is going to put a lot of people off who might be getting into windows phone for the first time.
    This could have the same effect as the XBOX One launch debacle.
    ven07 and xandros9 like this.
    11-04-2015 06:09 PM
  6. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    If I leave Windows Phone/Mobile/Whatever it will be because of the OS and the lack of support, not anything to do with OneDrive. That being said MS is on a roll with the dumb decisions and this latest one isn't helping them one bit.
    Tom Snyder and xandros9 like this.
    11-04-2015 06:17 PM
  7. Iain_S's Avatar
    Windows Phone market share in Europe and china actually increased last Q, and that's pretty good seeing that is the @ the new iphones were released. WP overtook ios in Russia. Both android and ios share went down.
    11-04-2015 06:38 PM
  8. erzhik's Avatar
    Pre-orders of what? As I've said, OneDrive has never been given or sold with or for a device. OneDrive space is ALWAYS linked to a Microsoft Account which you can have without owning or using any Microsoft hardware, software or other service. One Drive is "free" or bundled with software like Office 365, or purchased with money or Bing or some other "rewards".

    It might make some sense to boycott Office 365 or not otherwise buy OneDrive space but it makes ZERO sense to single out phones which NEVER came with a single byte of OneDrive space.

    Boycotting Windows Phones is as silly as MS trying to blame unlimited OneDrive abusers for cutting other user's available storage.
    Because majority of people used One Drive because of the automatic back up from their phones. On top of that, many people got their 15GB free camera roll storage. And people are angry not because they are punishing Office 365 and unlimited storage. Many people do not have unlimited storage and most of us have what I assume 140GB plans, and people are pissed that they are taking away FREE plans, not 365 plans. Boycotting WPs forces Microsoft to realize that OneDrive is ultimately tied to success or failure of Windows Phones (WMs). On top of that, boycotting windows phones is the only way Microsoft will realize that people are pissed. If not boycott WPs, what else is there to boycott?
    ven07, Tom Snyder and libra89 like this.
    11-04-2015 08:52 PM
  9. realwarder's Avatar
    I pay for Office 365 to get 1TB of storage and will continue to pay them for it. Still a bargain and I get Office for the family too! I am not considering and change.

    I guess if they took away free storage I'd be annoyed, but they're giving users a year to work out what they want to do. For most users, paying $1.99/month will be the simplest and most convenient option.
    a5cent, jlzimmerman and Kevin Rush like this.
    11-04-2015 09:13 PM
  10. aXross's Avatar
    Boycotting Windows Phones is as silly as MS trying to blame unlimited OneDrive abusers for cutting other user's available storage.
    Its indeed silly but I think this is their form of protest, to give back same silly excuse from OneDrive team by boycotting Windows phone pre-orders. Its indirect but maybe one way to show their dissatisfaction from OneDrive changes. Its really a protest and if Microsoft won't change their stance, then they lost some customers. Most OneDrive users are quite Microsoft supporters, alot of people on Android and iOS platforms are Google Drive, Dropbox or iCloud (for iOS) users. OneDrive isn't that yet an household name for cloud storage.

    Also Windows phone devices are tied to Microsoft account, you can't basically use Windows phone beyond basic mobile phone by not registering or signing-in Microsoft account. Also OneDrive as far as I know is the only service that is integrated to the OS, others can do some but not all. Other services can only backup photos and videos automatically maybe but no backup for other things and other features.

    In my case I'm still going for W10M devices but this news even affects my buying decision a bit.
    11-04-2015 10:35 PM
  11. tangledW's Avatar
    People are crazy.

    Especially people here apparently.
    PepperdotNet likes this.
    11-04-2015 11:07 PM
  12. BobLobIaw's Avatar
    And everyone should be thinking like you :p but like I said earlier, not everyone is in that position... Either financially, personally or depending on where they live, it just isn't possible for everyone. I think "people" forget sometimes that WP is most popular outside of the US
    That's a decent point, but realistically people who can't afford a cup of coffee per month probably don't need more than 5GB free cloud storage.
    a5cent and ven07 like this.
    11-05-2015 12:07 AM
  13. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    Its indeed silly but I think this is their form of protest, to give back same silly excuse from OneDrive team by boycotting Windows phone pre-orders. Its indirect but maybe one way to show their dissatisfaction from OneDrive changes. Its really a protest and if Microsoft won't change their stance, then they lost some customers.
    Here's what's wrong with that: The idiots who came up with this plan won't even notice the protest and won't suffer any consequences. It will be the phone department who suffers. A much better protest would be for everyone to max out all their OneDrive space. If everyone did that, the costs to MS would wipe out years of the extra income the idiots hoped to enjoy. And the hits would be to those idiots and THEIR department with no chance of blaming it on some other factor such as phone sales are down due to bad phones not some protest.

    People are crazy.

    Especially people here apparently.
    It's the same everywhere. Trust me. I've been everywhere.

    Hmmmm. Hope I'm not the one infecting everyone.
    Last edited by HoosierDaddy; 11-05-2015 at 07:21 AM.
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    11-05-2015 06:45 AM
  14. AndyCalling's Avatar
    What we need is a Protest App that keeps a person's OneDrive topped up with spacer data automatically, and contracts it as space is needed. I think it would get a lot of downloads.
    ven07 and aXross like this.
    11-05-2015 06:54 AM
  15. a5cent's Avatar
    And everyone should be thinking like you :p but like I said earlier, not everyone is in that position... Either financially, personally or depending on where they live, it just isn't possible for everyone. I think "people" forget sometimes that WP is most popular outside of the US

    IMHO this makes no sense.

    Either people live in a place where cloud storage isn't viable at all, in which case these changes are completely irrelevant (didn't use OneDrive before, and won't use it now), or they own a smartphone or other computing device proving they can certainly afford $2 / month. Any mobile phone contract in the world will cost more than that.

    The issue is not the inability to pay, but not wanting to. That's where most of the outrage is coming from. MS has only themselves to blame for that though, as they have conditioned a lot of people to believe cloud storage (an insanely expensive service to setup and run professionally for millions of people) should be free.

    Of course many people here also have other gripes than an online storage service with a decent amount of space actually costing something (what a shocker), and those I largely agree with.
    11-05-2015 08:10 AM
  16. Ten Four's Avatar
    The thing that is so upsetting is that it was the classic bait-and-switch technique that leaves you feeling like you've just been swindled. The classic mantra of good service companies is to under promise and over deliver. Instead, we all feel duped into believing that when we purchased a device like a phone that offered 30gb of free storage we would actually get 30gb of free storage. It is that simple. I stopped purchasing new cars decades ago because of schenanigans like this that were pulled on me by new car dealerships. Why should we believe now that Windows 10 or Outlook.com will remain free? When are they going to reduce the storage of Outlook.com to 1gb, with a subscription fee required to get more? As a business decision this is just dumb, dumb, dumb. There are cheaper alternatives and many free alternatives that offer more. Why pay anything for something that is inferior? That is just stupid.
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    xandros9 and rkrams like this.
    11-05-2015 08:46 AM
  17. 920Walker's Avatar
    My parents fed me growing up. My taste for more and finer cuisine didn't come free.
    11-05-2015 08:50 AM
  18. oufc_gav's Avatar
    The contents may be encrypted but the system has to know who has access to the file and how big it is....basic file system stuff.
    11-05-2015 08:54 AM
  19. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    It begs the question, how did ms know certain people where using so much storage?? I thought one drive was secure. Does this mean they are snooping through everyone's stored items???
    No. System and server admins for years have been able to run tools which scan for directory properties in the aggregate which show zero personal or private details. They only care about things like size and frequency of usage.
    11-05-2015 09:08 AM
  20. Kevin Hill2's Avatar
    For me it is about loyalty and trust. They out right lied to everyone who uses OneDrive. It is not that I don't like OneDrive or Windows products, I do, but they now have lost my trust and my loyalty, and I will start looking for a replacement for OneDrive and unless something changes I'm sure I will be looking into a new OS for my next phone and Tablet. I really get the feeling they don't care about Mobile any more.
    11-05-2015 09:53 AM
  21. jdballard's Avatar
    It begs the question, how did ms know certain people where using so much storage?? I thought one drive was secure. Does this mean they are snooping through everyone's stored items???
    I would hardly call it snooping. As an analogy, I can look at Explorer on my co-workers PC and tell how much storage they're using without actually knowing what's being stored. I could even break out files by file extension and determine how many photo, video and music files they have without knowing anything about the contents of those files.

    They need to have something in place for those people who have always had limits (i.e., not Office 365 subscribers) to make sure they don't go over. I'm sure it's all automated anyway - not like there's a room full of people sitting around scanning people's files.
    a5cent, xandros9 and libra89 like this.
    11-05-2015 10:44 AM
  22. ven07's Avatar
    Either people live in a place where cloud storage isn't viable at all, in which case these changes are completely irrelevant (didn't use OneDrive before, and won't use it now), or they own a smartphone or other computing device proving they can certainly afford $2 / month. Any mobile phone contract in the world will cost more than that.
    But won't everybody be using onedrive now that we have w10? even those who previously didn't and also live in countries where cloud storage wasn't relevant? and wouldn't it make a lot more sense to have a bit more than 5gb of free space available so that those people would want to buy a wp, just because it's easier to have onedrive on both the phone and pc and the automatic sync?

    Obviously there are a ton of solutions for this problem like use sth else or just backup what you can on your pc, but should we take away people's right to complain just because they didn't pay or couldn't pay for the service but came to wp because they knew beforehand that they would have access to 15gb so that hit a certain sweet spot for many of them?

    And weren't we moving away from phone contracts and just buying them outright? and, obviously, there are still countries in which phone contracts aren't even a thing :/
    techiez likes this.
    11-05-2015 10:46 AM
  23. jdballard's Avatar
    So it's obviously a bad move for Microsoft to offer "unlimited" storage with Office 365 and then take it away - especially how it was handled. They've create PR problems, a loss of trust, etc. I get that and it could have and should have been done a lot better.

    But...the numbers they gave are interesting. They specifically said 75TB, over 14,000 times the average. That means the average is about 5.35GB per user if my math is right. So now, they're basically giving away (i.e., free) a little less than what is used by the average user (5GB). And their 1TB of storage with an Office 365 subscription is actually cheaper than what Google Drive (and DropBox and Apple) charges for 1TB ($120), plus you get Office. Not really a bad deal. You can get unlimited on Amazon for less, but for my $, I'd rather go with MS. Others may disagree. Ultimately, though, from a business point of view, what MS did actually makes sense.

    Of course, from a trust & consumer relations point of view, it's a bad, bad move.

    Out of curiosity, who has more than 1TB of files? I personally am at 800GB but I have all the source videos from my church's services going back to September of last year which I've kept simply because I could. I realistically need about the last three months. So it'll be a long, long time before I hit 1TB.
    11-05-2015 11:02 AM
  24. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    As I have said before, I don't much mind them reducing the free storage or changing the price of storage. Its a free market. If they honestly think they will increase their overall company profits by doing this, go for it. I think they are wrong about that because of the backlash, but I'm not in charge.

    But blaming it on 75TB abusers is a grade A lie and I won't tolerate that. They could only have thought their customers are such fools they would believe that had anything to do with the decision. Might as well have blamed it on a YouTube video.

    Or if they really did do it in response to 75TB abusers, they are even bigger idiots. It would be like a landlord bulldozing their own apartment building because a tenant played music too loud.
    11-05-2015 11:09 AM
  25. AndyCalling's Avatar
    IMHO this makes no sense.

    Either people live in a place where cloud storage isn't viable at all, in which case these changes are completely irrelevant (didn't use OneDrive before, and won't use it now), or they own a smartphone or other computing device proving they can certainly afford $2 / month. Any mobile phone contract in the world will cost more than that.

    The issue is not the inability to pay, but not wanting to. That's where most of the outrage is coming from. MS has only themselves to blame for that though, as they have conditioned a lot of people to believe cloud storage (an insanely expensive service to setup and run professionally for millions of people) should be free.

    Of course many people here also have other gripes than an online storage service with a decent amount of space actually costing something (what a shocker), and those I largely agree with.
    Agreed. I have not seen this as a big issue for me as Onedrive has been so neutered as to be nothing more than a sync mechanism anyway. I can do that over my lan without Onedrive. For the old Onedrive 5gig would be way too small. For the new Onesync, it's more than I care to use. NAS is the way. My personal cloud is under my control, so is infinitely better than something that is beholden to the whims of Nadela. I pay way less per year for my storage, and have none of the restrictions. Problem solved.
    a5cent and ven07 like this.
    11-05-2015 11:53 AM
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