08-20-2011 11:45 PM
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  1. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    HP kills webOS
    And then there were 4 – HP kills webOS | WMPoweruser

    Strange, many people thought that WebOS was the best OS out there, just never caught fire. I don't think this will happen to WP7, MS is known to stick by it's products much longer.
    08-18-2011 03:30 PM
  2. Bballbenb's Avatar
    I think it could be good as in people who use webos might switch to windows phone 7 now.

    I think it could be bad as in those people will go to droid or iphone even more distancing the 3. I think windows phone will surpass blackberry though. As far as tablets go thats stupid to even enter in. Nobody will pass the ipad for a while. HP has celeberties and commercials endorsing it and it still didnt succeed.
    08-18-2011 03:49 PM
  3. threed61's Avatar
    what they actually said is theyre ending support for webOS devices. This should definitely spur webOS to look at other systems, and wp7 has always been liked by a lot of palm fans. Including this one, which is why I got a trophy a few weeks ago.
    08-18-2011 03:49 PM
  4. Dr.Phil's Avatar
    Yeah, plus Microsoft is apparently already working on Windows Phone 8, so you can guarantee it will be around for AT LEAST the next two years (guesstimation). With WebOS, there was no guarantee at all. They failed to bring the phones to the market before being swamped by better phones with better specifications. I mean they were planning to launch their new Pre in September....psh as if they could compete with Mango.
    08-18-2011 03:51 PM
  5. thed's Avatar
    I think people who are willing to try a less popular OS like webOS will also be willing to try WP. So it probably won't hurt, may even help WP.
    08-18-2011 03:52 PM
  6. tiny's Avatar
    Excellent for Windows Phone.


    It is crazy, because I was thinking about this earlier today, about how if HP continues to push WebOS, it could be the death of HP. And then I read this news. It looks like they had the same realization I had.
    08-18-2011 03:53 PM
  7. Bballbenb's Avatar
    Tiny why do you say that it is excellent?
    08-18-2011 03:59 PM
  8. selfcreation's Avatar
    WP will never die , even it it stays at its 9% iish, or even if it drops ...

    sells might not be going up much BUT allot of Positive things growing around WP witch is giving it hope for the future.

    WEBOS failed on so many levels its not even Funny.

    first official WEB OS FAIL!! = BELL had the EXCLUSIVE Palm Pre (here in canada when it first came out ) the problem is , it came out as a CDMA phone 2 weeks before BELL came out with HSPA .. i can tell you that NO ONE wanted a CDMA phone even if it was good. so basically we dint push it or sell it ,,, so they gave the contract for the PIXI and PRE 2 to Telus , witch ALSO faileD!! Lol

    and im pretty sure we are alredy outselling WEBOS ( we = WP )


    Tiny why do you say that it is excellent?
    one less OS to compet with.
    08-18-2011 04:02 PM
  9. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    I don't think it'll matter much, besides what Se1fcr3ation said, one less competitor. I think Windows 8 and Windows 8 tablets will be big in pushing WP7 over the top.
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    08-18-2011 04:16 PM
  10. Greyfish7's Avatar
    I think it's probably good for WP7

    I've been a loyal precentral member and preplus meta-doctor-er, and eagerly awaiting news if the pre3 was gonna be on verizon

    and today I registered over here @wpcentral

    already have an xbox, love metro (I keep finding new deviantart themes for my desktop), and am excited for the future of windows. this seems like an obvious place to jump to.

    I'm still reeling, but when my verizon upgrade date hits at the end of september I reckon I'll be back lookin for the best wp7 phone on big red
    08-18-2011 04:20 PM
  11. Bballbenb's Avatar
    Welcome Greyfish! I am with verizon also. Only one (HTC Trophy) verizon phone right now but i am HOPING here in the next month or two they will release another or have news of another coming. The Trophy is a great phone though not dissing it at all and not bad of a price, but if something new is coming its obviously going to be wanted more.
    08-18-2011 04:34 PM
  12. theefman's Avatar
    WP will never die ,...
    That much you can count on, Microsoft is going Metro in everything, WP is one of their foundational Metro products. It will evolve, integrate with the desktop and live for a long time, no matter what the marketshare numbers turn out to be.
    08-18-2011 04:43 PM
  13. smartpatrol's Avatar
    It could be bad for WP7. It's a possibility that HTC or Samsung could buy webOS and make it their own OS.

    Otherwise, it's obviously good because it means one less competitor.
    08-18-2011 04:54 PM
  14. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Yikes, didn't even think about that! That would suck completely, and it seems that's the way OEMs are going.
    It could be bad for WP7. It's a possibility that HTC or Samsung could buy webOS and make it their own OS.

    Otherwise, it's obviously good because it means one less competitor.
    08-18-2011 05:04 PM
  15. theefman's Avatar
    One point that's maybe missed, if HP hadnt bought WebOS and gone with WP7 as planned they would be dumping WP7 right about now, and you know how that would have been protrayed in the apple loving tech press. That would have been negative press WP7 could do without.
    08-18-2011 05:28 PM
  16. Reflexx's Avatar
    If HTC or Samsung buy webOS, I think it hurts Android MUCH MORE than it hurts Windows Phone.

    Microsoft's main Windows Phone partner knows how to do HUGE volume. They also know how to do many different form factors. And if for some reason Samsung of HTC dropped WP, then Nokia could pick up the slack.

    Though I don't think that HTC or Samsung would go 100% webOS. At least not in the next year or two.
    08-18-2011 05:35 PM
  17. threed61's Avatar
    It could be bad for WP7. It's a possibility that HTC or Samsung could buy webOS and make it their own OS.

    Otherwise, it's obviously good because it means one less competitor.
    Also consider that HTC and Samsung were less than thrilled to be sued by MS, and have not been happy with the restrictions put on phone development by MS. One of the hp big shots already tweeted that they would look for a great hardware partner.
    08-18-2011 05:36 PM
  18. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    I don't think they would have dumped WP7 so quickly. They would have only been responsible for the hardware, not the OS. SO less pressure on them I also think that their tablets failing is another reason why they "killed" off webOS. No way is W8 tablets going to fail.
    One point that's maybe missed, if HP hadnt bought WebOS and gone with WP7 as planned they would be dumping WP7 right about now, and you know how that would have been protrayed in the apple loving tech press. That would have been negative press WP7 could do without.
    08-18-2011 05:38 PM
  19. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    I don't think so. Android makes both of these companies way too much money. I don't see either dropping Android. HTC has reported back to back to back record profits. Also, I know I'm going to get hammered for this, but Nokia is not popular in the US. HTC and Samsung is.
    If HTC or Samsung buy webOS, I think it hurts Android MUCH MORE than it hurts Windows Phone.

    Microsoft's main Windows Phone partner knows how to do HUGE volume. They also know how to do many different form factors. And if for some reason Samsung of HTC dropped WP, then Nokia could pick up the slack.

    Though I don't think that HTC or Samsung would go 100% webOS. At least not in the next year or two.
    08-18-2011 05:40 PM
  20. threed61's Avatar
    I don't think they would have dumped WP7 so quickly. They would have only been responsible for the hardware, not the OS. SO less pressure on them I also think that their tablets failing is another reason why they "killed" off webOS. No way is W8 tablets going to fail.
    Android tabs have failed, bb tab failed, hp tab failed. wp7 phones have not sold well. No way?
    08-18-2011 05:46 PM
  21. 3migo's Avatar
    I think it will be a good thing. Once Pre users are eligible for upgrade, they could start coming in masses to WP7. Microsoft could really take advantage of the fall of webOS if they play their cards right.

    Also, the Zune was never the most successful product, but Microsoft stuck by it until they developed WP7. Microsoft has too much pride to let this OS fail.
    08-18-2011 05:46 PM
  22. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Compared to what? WP7 hasn't been out a year, go bing Android phones first year sales. I say again, no way.
    Android tabs have failed, bb tab failed, hp tab failed. wp7 phones have not sold well. No way?
    08-18-2011 05:48 PM
  23. threed61's Avatar
    Compared to what? WP7 hasn't been out a year, go bing Android phones first year sales. I say again, no way.
    Windows phone market share declined from 5% to 3.8% in a recent survey.
    08-18-2011 05:50 PM
  24. Bballbenb's Avatar
    The biggest thing IMO that Microsoft and WP has to do is to sell and advertise this phone. They have got to get commercials and internet ads to sell the product. We all agree that it is a GREAT product. just not many people know about it and it's seen as a risk to leave your iphone or droid for it.

    I was browsing around twitter today and found this. If Blake Griffin would support WP then that could help a ton. Celebrity endorsements would be great. WP needs to attack the social world, twitter, facebook , etc. I think all of the producers are and have twitter accounts and it helps. Check this link to see the tweets to blake and check other windows phone twitter accounts out!

    Twitter (person who is talking to blake griffin about wp7)

    Twitter
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    08-18-2011 05:52 PM
  25. Reflexx's Avatar
    I don't think so. Android makes both of these companies way too much money. I don't see either dropping Android. HTC has reported back to back to back record profits. Also, I know I'm going to get hammered for this, but Nokia is not popular in the US. HTC and Samsung is.
    Because of the licensing costs associated with Android (due to lawsuits), it might be beneficial for some of these hardware makers to look at another OS. HTC more-so than Samsung (since Samsung has Bada).

    While Android does make them a lot of money, there's also something to be said for diversification. Otherwise, neither of these companies would have really given WP7 the time of day.

    As for Nokia not being popular here... that's mainly due to their crappy OS. Mobile operators weren't willing to subsidize their devices as much because they didn't believe that they'd be competitive. So for the most part, Nokia has been selling their smartphones directly to the public. Not through carriers. And most people in the US don't buy smartphones directly.

    But Nokia still sells a decent amount of feature phones in the US. And they did dominate here before because of the high quality of their hardware.

    If Nokia offers a good quality product here in the US, people will buy it.
    08-18-2011 05:52 PM
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