09-03-2012 09:29 PM
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  1. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    One issue I always had with WP7.

    The Zune music player. It always showed the wrong artist. It was very very annoying. To people who are listening to Madonna or MJ, its cool. But to someone like me who listens to anything but mainstream artists its a curse.
    Like, some of my fav artists are Black Sun Empire, NOISIA or even Dom&Roland, Phace and Misanthrop have completely different artist pictures
    :eek:

    This was extremely annoying. And add to that the low res images...that was it. Couldn't take it anymore.

    On a giant 4.3" screen, a low res image of 3 unknown guys isn't the best site in the world.

    Sent from my RaZr Nexus.
    08-19-2012 10:23 PM
  2. DavidinCT's Avatar
    WP has a good marketplace, depending on what you want, it should have what you need...
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    08-19-2012 10:40 PM
  3. scottcraft's Avatar
    WP has a good marketplace, depending on what you want, it should have what you need...
    I agree. WP may be missing some of the big cross-platform apps such as instagram, but there are usually other apps with similar functionality.
    08-19-2012 10:56 PM
  4. eric12341's Avatar
    Of course a big marketplace is not the same as many quality apps. In the beginning I thought most WP apps were serious, now more and more of the new apps is versions of "Super Fart Machine Deluxe" and "1000 sexy almost nude Russian girls" . (Like Android market).

    It maybe different in the US, but where I live WP is missing a lot of official and local apps. I did know that when I bought my WP, and I thought it would change, but to my disappointment it hasn't.

    I don't need many apps every day, it is more often the apps I rarely use but in certain situations that I find more important/handy.

    And while the WP versions of an apps is more good looking, better designed, they almost always have less options and features and are updates can be very rare compared to the Android version. Like Spotify...

    Rare updates can be good as that means that there isn't much to be fixed. It will also eventually change once Win8 and WP8 are released.
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    08-19-2012 10:59 PM
  5. nokia4life's Avatar
    I agree. WP may be missing some of the big cross-platform apps such as instagram, but there are usually other apps with similar functionality.
    That's the main problem for me I want the real app not third party there is no telling when api will not be available to third parties I would rather have the real instagram than instacam they can't even get chase bank app and that's on pretty much every platform

    Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
    08-19-2012 11:24 PM
  6. TaliZorah's Avatar
    That's the main problem for me I want the real app not third party there is no telling when api will not be available to third parties I would rather have the real instagram than instacam they can't even get chase bank app and that's on pretty much every platform

    Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

    It's not necissarily that the apps are 3rd party but that there are apps that do the same thing. For instance do you HAVE to use instagram? I know there are apps on the WP7 marketplace that do exactly what instagram does and the app is developed by the websites that origionally use it - not third party.

    I guess if you just "want the most popular apps" then yeah, you may or may not have a WP7 version of it. But if you are the kind of person who has to have the most popular of anything then there is no reason to have a WP7. It's a nitch market and it has some very cool nitch apps and games for people who either dont like android or apple or want something different.

    I hear you with the chase bank app but that's completely up to the developers unless microsoft gives them money and pleads for them to bring it to their OS like they did with Angry Birds. The Chase app is free so there is no reason to for MS to push them to make it. Besides, you have to login to the app every time anyways and their mobile website is completely functional and offers a great interface for mobile devices. Like I said, you have to actually login to the app every time anyways so it's virtually the same thing.

    You are just tapping the Internet Explorer icon instead of a Chase App icon. That's pretty much the only difference.
    08-21-2012 03:22 AM
  7. mb-dape's Avatar
    It's not necissarily that the apps are 3rd party but that there are apps that do the same thing. For instance do you HAVE to use instagram? I know there are apps on the WP7 marketplace that do exactly what instagram does and the app is developed by the websites that origionally use it - not third party.

    I guess if you just "want the most popular apps" then yeah, you may or may not have a WP7 version of it. But if you are the kind of person who has to have the most popular of anything then there is no reason to have a WP7. It's a nitch market and it has some very cool nitch apps and games for people who either dont like android or apple or want something different.
    There is one problem with being a nitch market; lack of interest and support.

    One of the reasons I even considered WP was that Spotify got released. Even developed by MS themselfes, I thought the app would be at least as good as on the other platforms. The nice design even raised my expectations.
    Well, it is buggy as something can be. Just look at the Spotify forums, there are tons of threads with problems with the WP version. People there have lost faith in WP because of MS non existant support! One year now without one single update! Meanwhile Android/iOS have got regular updates with new functions and better sound quality. Maybe there will be a new Spotify app for WP8... anyway it is an mockery of us early WP7 believers.

    Even though WP was/is considered to be so easy to develop for so is IMHO at least 8/10 apps and games more functional and reliable on iOS and Android.

    I hope MS will gain some real developer interest with Windows Phone 8 and Win 8!
    08-21-2012 05:44 PM
  8. scottcraft's Avatar
    There is one problem with being a nitch market; lack of interest and support.

    One of the reasons I even considered WP was that Spotify got released. Even developed by MS themselfes, I thought the app would be at least as good as on the other platforms. The nice design even raised my expectations.
    Well, it is buggy as something can be. Just look at the Spotify forums, there are tons of threads with problems with the WP version. People there have lost faith in WP because of MS non existant support! One year now without one single update! Meanwhile Android/iOS have got regular updates with new functions and better sound quality. Maybe there will be a new Spotify app for WP8... anyway it is an mockery of us early WP7 believers.

    Even though WP was/is considered to be so easy to develop for so is IMHO at least 8/10 apps and games more functional and reliable on iOS and Android.

    I hope MS will gain some real developer interest with Windows Phone 8 and Win 8!
    When you say one year without a single update are you referring to the phone or the Spotify app? If it's the phone within the past year my WP has received several updates. If it's the Spotify app you are referring to, how it it Microsoft's fault that the developers for Spotify don't update their app?
    08-21-2012 05:50 PM
  9. rightontime's Avatar
    I don't really base purchase of a phone/tablet based on the marketplace apps, but the stock apps. Stock apps are what most people will be using the majority of the time anyway. I really like WP messaging, zune, and xbox apps.
    08-21-2012 06:48 PM
  10. GoodThings2Life's Avatar
    I never have been into "apps". I use my phone for communications, music, and pictures... and very little else. I don't even surf the web on it except in a pinch if I'm desperate or bored.

    There's a few apps I install because I feel like I should-- Facebook, WPCentral, Pictures Lab, Translator, YouTube-- but I really don't use them very often and I actually find the Me tile/People hub to be sufficient for my Facebook needs.

    There's also a few apps I install because I use them as utilities-- Adobe Reader for PDF attachments in email, Amazing Weather (my favorite weather app), Amazon Mobile and NewEgg (for price lookups and purchases on the go, faster than web sites), Flashlight-X (obvious), and SkyDrive for document access.

    And there's a few apps that I actually use frequently-- ConnectMe (Remote Desktop client), Network Tools (for network diagnostic needs), and IMDb (entertainment lookups), and I plan to use Lync 2010 frequently for work by year end.

    I have a handful of games for when I'm super bored, but maybe once a month I will play ONE of them.

    I'm not your average consumer though. I'm not using it as an entertainment device except for using it as my MP3 player. My phone is a productivity tool to get something done, so I know my needs aren't what others care about, and I think that's important for any user to consider when buying any gadget.

    I think the Windows Phone market is simultaneously well-stocked and famished at the same time. Well-stocked for someone like me that doesn't care about apps and just needs a handful of utility apps.... famished, but improving for the app-lovers. I wish Microsoft would push for more banking apps is my only request.
    08-21-2012 10:20 PM
  11. cckgz4's Avatar
    Tbh, it's really depending on the user. If they feel like they need a lot of apps, we can't fault them for it and for their decision for sticking with another platform. But I think people here over exaggerate about our app selections.

    To add, I have an android tablet and only use a handful of apps. Same for my blackberry. It really just depends on what works best for that person
    08-21-2012 10:51 PM
  12. MrBurrrns's Avatar
    When you say one year without a single update are you referring to the phone or the Spotify app? If it's the phone within the past year my WP has received several updates. If it's the Spotify app you are referring to, how it it Microsoft's fault that the developers for Spotify don't update their app?
    Microsoft worked very closely with the Spotify developers to bring it to WP. They cared enough to bring it to WP, but it seems they do not care anymore about the updates. It's like a checkbox they had to check and then moved on.

    And the problem is this is not a single case. There are lots of apps that suffer from the same problem. Gorram, even the WP OS has tons of stuff that needs fixing. But with WP8 coming they never will and we have no guarantee that WP8 will be better in that regard.

    One example: The SMS exploit was discovered in December 2011. It took Microsoft 7 months to release a fix that was included in Tango. A critical exploit and it took 7 MONTHS! That's an unspeakable eternity in the mobile world.

    Microsoft is too slow and they are leaving too much on the line. And with the approach they are currently taking they don't even deserve to be successful. I hope they get their sh*t together, because they do not have the luxury to be this ignorant. Right now, WP is walking the line of WebOS. An OS with great potential, that was never fully realized.
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    08-22-2012 04:24 AM
  13. Big Supes's Avatar
    ^^ Microsoft is a cash cow. They will build their own mobile OS at their own pace - like it or not. WebOS isn't really comparable. I agree that things could be quicker, but only because I'm impatient. :D
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    08-22-2012 04:54 AM
  14. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    Microsoft worked very closely with the Spotify developers to bring it to WP. They cared enough to bring it to WP, but it seems they do not care anymore about the updates. It's like a checkbox they had to check and then moved on.

    And the problem is this is not a single case. There are lots of apps that suffer from the same problem. Gorram, even the WP OS has tons of stuff that needs fixing. But with WP8 coming they never will and we have no guarantee that WP8 will be better in that regard.

    One example: The SMS exploit was discovered in December 2011. It took Microsoft 7 months to release a fix that was included in Tango. A critical exploit and it took 7 MONTHS! That's an unspeakable eternity in the mobile world.

    Microsoft is too slow and they are leaving too much on the line. And with the approach they are currently taking they don't even deserve to be successful. I hope they get their sh*t together, because they do not have the luxury to be this ignorant. Right now, WP is walking the line of WebOS. An OS with great potential, that was never fully realized.
    Nice one. Somewhere, those were the reasons I left WP7 behind. Took Android up and now I am back again. I trust them, and believe in them.

    Sent from my RaZr Nexus.
    08-22-2012 05:34 AM
  15. 4hab's Avatar
    Compared to Android (or iOS) I miss nothing, that would make me move to one of these two eco systems. I'm so, so pleased with Windows Phone, but also I'm not such an app hoarder, I mostly have apps that I also use regularly.

    In my eyes Windows Phone does not need such an amount of apps, but what it needs is a better reputation to make it more attractive to popular developers. There are lots of cool games for example, that dont come to WP, or much, much later. But the most essential apps for everyday use (Evernote, dictionaries, maps, tools for project management) are present in the Marketplace and developers are increasingly involving Windows Phone in their portfolio.

    The store does not need a higher quantity, but a static, or even rising quality.
    08-22-2012 05:57 AM
  16. Shantek's Avatar
    I think you need to give credit to the dev's who are doing their best to fill the gaps for the big name companies who haven't committed to the platform yet. Without the smaller dev's, the platform would have no apps at all!

    In saying that, me personally there isn't really any apps or games these days that I don't have that I want. All the big banks in Australia are starting to get on board and some of the big name developers are slowly coming over.

    But from your original post, you make it sound like we have nothing good on the market at all, and that's far from the case.
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    08-23-2012 12:17 AM
  17. aimango's Avatar
    I agree that it really depends on their user. for me, i used to think that i would be fine with how the WP Marketplace is, but really, I'm not, at least right now I'm not. I am starting to carry around both my WP and my iPod touch simply because the social apps that I enjoy using are faster on iOS =X ie. foursquare, facebook, instagram. i'm hoping that once wp8 is released, more developers look towards developing WP versions of their apps, or at least improving them.
    08-31-2012 02:12 PM
  18. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    I think you need to give credit to the dev's who are doing their best to fill the gaps for the big name companies who haven't committed to the platform yet. Without the smaller dev's, the platform would have no apps at all!

    In saying that, me personally there isn't really any apps or games these days that I don't have that I want. All the big banks in Australia are starting to get on board and some of the big name developers are slowly coming over.

    But from your original post, you make it sound like we have nothing good on the market at all, and that's far from the case.
    Firstly excellent reply. Thanks. Secondly , no km misunderstood.. and I apologize. The mind frame i had written it with has changed.

    Yes..my wallet will Be a lot lighter after I buy a WP8...but its not like right now also I'm having it all.I'm toooo saturated with Android.

    Sent from my RaZr NeXus.
    08-31-2012 02:22 PM
  19. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    In fact, ask anyone under 25yo who own an iPhone if he would get a Windows Phone over his iPhone and he would probably ask "Does it have Instagram?" BOOM you lost him. See? Then if he is still not sure he could ask show me the official facebook and twitter apps and again the iPhone would win... I know that this is not an issue for everybody here... but seriously the WP app store is VERY poor... almost useless...
    Last edited by Simon Tupper; 08-31-2012 at 03:21 PM.
    08-31-2012 03:05 PM
  20. wolf1891's Avatar
    In fact, ask anyone under 25yo who own an iPhone if he would get a Windows Phone over his iPhone and he would probably ask "Does it have Instagram?" BOOM you lost him. See? Then if he is still not sure he could ask show me the official facebook and twitter apps and again the iPhone would win... I know that this is not an issue for everybody here... but seriously the WP app store is VERY poor... almost useless...
    speak for yourself there pal... everyone I know who has an iPhone (including more than a few in that "under 25" group you are referring to) that I've had a chance to sit down and do a side-by-side comparison of their Facebook app versus the WP Facebook app, they've all agreed that they like the WP version MUCH MORE than the iPhone version.

    Just because YOU don't care much for the WP Marketplace doesn't mean there aren't plenty of us who are quite pleased with the offerings within.
    08-31-2012 03:47 PM
  21. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    speak for yourself there pal... everyone I know who has an iPhone (including more than a few in that "under 25" group you are referring to) that I've had a chance to sit down and do a side-by-side comparison of their Facebook app versus the WP Facebook app, they've all agreed that they like the WP version MUCH MORE than the iPhone version.

    Just because YOU don't care much for the WP Marketplace doesn't mean there aren't plenty of us who are quite pleased with the offerings within.
    You are taking it pretty personal arent you? I am not pointing you in any way, but let's just talk about Twitter, the official app for iPhone is gorgeous and on Windows phone... it's plain ugly and no twitter client compares to the official app of the iPhone. You also didn't mention Instagram. Honestly, I have been comparing my Windows Phone with many other Android phone and iPhone 4 and 4s... the only good points about Windows Phone was Bing functionalities(not because they are better than what apps can do, but because they are easier to reach and use) AND facebook integration(that wont be an argument went iOS 6 is out tho) You gotta be objective about your phone...
    Last edited by Simon Tupper; 08-31-2012 at 04:09 PM.
    08-31-2012 03:59 PM
  22. power5's Avatar
    Bank app is the only one I really miss from iPhone. My bank is PNC which covers most of the mississippi river and east but no WP app. IPhone and android have one though. I have to use the dumb mobile web version.

    Have come across a few others but can't think of them at the moment. Again, I hope wp8 fixes this deficiency.
    08-31-2012 05:11 PM
  23. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    You are taking it pretty personal arent you? I am not pointing you in any way, but let's just talk about Twitter, the official app for iPhone is gorgeous and on Windows phone... it's plain ugly and no twitter client compares to the official app of the iPhone. You also didn't mention Instagram. Honestly, I have been comparing my Windows Phone with many other Android phone and iPhone 4 and 4s... the only good points about Windows Phone was Bing functionalities(not because they are better than what apps can do, but because they are easier to reach and use) AND facebook integration(that wont be an argument went iOS 6 is out tho) You gotta be objective about your phone...
    Ok, not everyone under 25 cares about Instagram. I've got several under-25s interested in the phone despite the fact it doesn't have Instagram. It all depends on what the person wants. I was one of the early adopters in the university but I honestly don't regret it. Instagram? I don't actually use it and I'm 21. Even though I have access to it on both my tablet and my iPod. So no instagram doesn't mean an under-25 is definitely lost.

    As for the Twitter client, that's purely subjective mate. I have an iPod Touch and a Windows Phone and have Twitter (fully updated) on both, and personally, I find the Twitter client for WP better. You think the WP client for iPhone is ugly. See, subjective? Same with the Facebook client on an earlier post. I think the iPhone/iPod client is butt-ugly, and the WP one beautiful. Again, it's subjective.
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    08-31-2012 06:48 PM
  24. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    Sorry, but why would u need FB and Twitter app on a phone that already has a "deeply integrated" social networking.

    The Me Tile has all of that doesn't it?



    Sent from my RaZr NeXus.
    09-01-2012 12:53 AM
  25. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    Sorry, but why would u need FB and Twitter app on a phone that already has a "deeply integrated" social networking.

    The Me Tile has all of that doesn't it?



    Sent from my RaZr NeXus.
    The Me tile is usefull... but it is laking and it does not show all your notifications...
    09-01-2012 12:55 AM
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