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  1. cotras's Avatar
    It doesn't make any sense that MS doesn't provide a convenient way to quit apps. Nobody would be forced to use that functionality anyway? And clearly a lot of people are (and will always be) annoyed by the lack of it. When I open the task switcher, I don't want to be reminded about things I did ages ago - that stuff is now history/obsolete/just a distraction.
    06-01-2013 05:49 AM
  2. poddie's Avatar
    As far as I can tell, the ability to kill tasks easier is entirely based on people's poor experience with other phone os. I never kill apps, and I never have problems. I think the point is they don't make it super easy because then people would assume they need to do it based on previous experience.

    I am also convinced that all the "when app xxx runs in the background my battery drains faster" comments we get are based on fundamental misunderstandings of how WP task switching works, again mostly based on poor prior experience with other os.

    There may be a few rare exceptions (for apps that truly can do some things things in the background, like a few early Skype bugs), but for the most part it's just not possible. Thing is, for those early Skype bugs it still wouldn't have helped to "close" Skype, because it was running as a background agent. Closing the ap merely makes it look like it's not running.
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    06-01-2013 06:01 AM
  3. hopmedic's Avatar
    It doesn't make any sense that MS doesn't provide a convenient way to quit apps. Nobody would be forced to use that functionality anyway? And clearly a lot of people are (and will always be) annoyed by the lack of it. When I open the task switcher, I don't want to be reminded about things I did ages ago - that stuff is now history/obsolete/just a distraction.
    Why build in functionality that isn't needed? That's a waste of valuable developer time.

    As far as I can tell, the ability to kill tasks easier is entirely based on people's poor experience with other phone os. I never kill apps, and I never have problems. I think the point is they don't make it super easy because then people would assume they need to do it based on previous experience.

    I am also convinced that all the "when app xxx runs in the background my battery drains faster" comments we get are based on fundamental misunderstandings of how WP task switching works, again mostly based on poor prior experience with other os.

    There may be a few rare exceptions (for apps that truly can do some things things in the background, like a few early Skype bugs), but for the most part it's just not possible. Thing is, for those early Skype bugs it still wouldn't have helped to "close" Skype, because it was running as a background agent. Closing the ap merely makes it look like it's not running.
    This. If it weren't for poor task management in Android, and to a lesser extent Windows Mobile before it (lesser extent because there were fewer users), people whould even KNOW that there was no task management in Windows Phone. Why? Because it just works.
    Last edited by hopmedic; 06-02-2013 at 09:20 AM.
    06-02-2013 12:08 AM
  4. John Dark's Avatar
    I have just been using the "Music + Videos" app to play music and the back button didn't kill that process......

    However I did download another app that kills the music and shuts down the music app.

    Why isn't an app killing function considered unnecessary?
    06-09-2013 12:42 AM
  5. hopmedic's Avatar
    I have just been using the "Music + Videos" app to play music and the back button didn't kill that process......

    However I did download another app that kills the music and shuts down the music app.

    Why isn't an app killing function considered unnecessary?
    Music is an exception, because when WP7 came out, there were complaints that it couldn't play music at the same time as doing something else. WP7.1 (Mango) introduced background music playing. So now there are two steps to stop music - one is to pause the music play, and the other would be to close the app (though this step is not a "necessary" step).

    Windows 8 introduced what I would call a bug, but Microsoft did it intentionally for some reason. If you stop music now, then disconnect or reconnect bluetooth, the music will start again, either through the speaker or the newly-connected BT device. Why? Who knows? I sure don't. Bugs me each time I get in and out of my car. But I use Stop Music to stop it from happening.
    06-09-2013 07:29 PM
  6. vaweaver's Avatar
    has anyone had the problem with something running in the background after i've closed an app that uses up the battery very quickly? i had been using dropbox, thought i had closed it and within a few minutes my battery was used up.
    thanks
    09-03-2013 03:54 PM
  7. TMavC5's Avatar
    I hardly ever kill my app. It runs fine. I do get over heated from time to time. When that happens, I just reboot. :P
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    09-03-2013 03:58 PM
  8. a5cent's Avatar
    has anyone had the problem with something running in the background after i've closed an app that uses up the battery very quickly? i had been using dropbox, thought i had closed it and within a few minutes my battery was used up.
    thanks
    There is a WP bug that seems to cause spontaneous battery drain. It seems that some apps are more likely to do it than others, but so far nobody here has been able to pin it down exactly.
    09-03-2013 05:35 PM
  9. hopmedic's Avatar
    has anyone had the problem with something running in the background after i've closed an app that uses up the battery very quickly? i had been using dropbox, thought i had closed it and within a few minutes my battery was used up.
    thanks
    I left one of the Angry Birds games in the foreground once, and turned off the screen to do something for my wife. When I came back to it 30 minutes later, it was in battery saver mode, where it had more than 50% when I put it down.

    I don't know if this is the cause or not, but apps do not need to get your permission to run under lock screen (screen off). It used to be a requirement that they notify you / ask permission, but now it is recommended. I'm not sure why the change in certification requirements. For this reason, I never leave an app in the foreground if I turn off the screen. I always hit either back or start before turning it off.
    09-04-2013 10:22 AM
  10. tk-093's Avatar
    I left one of the Angry Birds games in the foreground once, and turned off the screen to do something for my wife. When I came back to it 30 minutes later, it was in battery saver mode, where it had more than 50% when I put it down.
    I've noticed some apps will "resume" when you launch them from that "running" app list, and some just load right up from where they left off. Angry Birds just loads right back up. Also the Physi Nibbler and Physi Blocks do that too. So are they actually running full bore in the background if you don't actually quit them? When I resume Angry Birds it actually resumes to the pause screen, but those other two games pop right in where I left off. Since they are ad supported I wonder if they are still pulling down junk in the background?
    09-04-2013 12:26 PM
  11. hopmedic's Avatar
    I've noticed some apps will "resume" when you launch them from that "running" app list, and some just load right up from where they left off. Angry Birds just loads right back up. Also the Physi Nibbler and Physi Blocks do that too. So are they actually running full bore in the background if you don't actually quit them? When I resume Angry Birds it actually resumes to the pause screen, but those other two games pop right in where I left off. Since they are ad supported I wonder if they are still pulling down junk in the background?
    It depends. If the developer wrote it to run under lock, then it's running. If not, then it's suspending and recovering. Part of the fast resume (don't remember off hand what it's called - maybe it is fast resume) the dev can choose whether an app starts from the start each time, starts where it was last, or something in between. But if it's running under lock, it's using processor time when you think it's not.
    09-04-2013 01:31 PM
  12. gorc23's Avatar
    It is possible to close all open apps at once. Only few quick clicks on back button are needed.
    11-28-2013 02:21 AM
  13. Ben Lemieux's Avatar
    With the new update you should be able to do this.
    02-20-2014 04:19 AM
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