12-27-2013 07:13 PM
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  1. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    Why isn't filtering out contacts not an option that the OP wants to take? I understand he doesn't want Facebook lot in the "Phonebook" right? So how about untick in filters? Isn't that you want? That's what I've done. I've got 560 FB contacts - don't see a single one in my "Phonebook".
    It then also filters them out of People Hub, which he doesn't want. He wants them to be filtered ONLY when he goes to Phone Hub, then clicks phonebook from there.
    12-07-2012 10:13 AM
  2. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    It then also filters them out of People Hub, which he doesn't want. He wants them to be filtered ONLY when he goes to Phone Hub, then clicks phonebook from there.
    I might have to check that. I thought filters for People hub were on top in What's New page where you select what feed we want.
    12-07-2012 10:20 AM
  3. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    I might have to check that. I thought filters for People hub were on top in What's New page where you select what feed we want.
    I mean it filters out the contacts from People Hub. They still appear in What's New, but the contact cards don't appear for them. He wants them all to show in People Hub, but not in the phonebook accessed from Phone Hub, if you catch my drift.
    12-07-2012 10:23 AM
  4. manicottiK's Avatar
    Why isn't filtering out contacts not an option that the OP wants to take?
    I think that the OP wants both a People hub and a Phonebook (or smart dialer) app.
    12-07-2012 04:36 PM
  5. blehblehbleh's Avatar
    Should have seen that coming...
    Indeed.

    Yep! When I meet people in real life though and we're talking using voice, it's even worse... near enough EVERYONE mistakes me for Harry Potter. Heh, if I get to meet my favourite artist (Miss FD) then hopefully she'll make a wisecrack about that too to her fans.
    Interesting. You ever try to use it to your advantage?
    12-08-2012 01:30 AM
  6. Selfdestructo Bust's Avatar
    Why isn't filtering out contacts not an option that the OP wants to take? I understand he doesn't want Facebook lot in the "Phonebook" right? So how about untick in filters? Isn't that you want? That's what I've done. I've got 560 FB contacts - don't see a single one in my "Phonebook".
    If I tick off FB then People Hub loses a networking feature. I don't want to lose features.

    What I did for now is merge the Hotmail contacts (phone contacts) with the Facebook ones and use the RapDialer app to have a contact list with just the people with phone numbers (also speed dial and smart dial). Only downside is that it doesn't display incoming calls in the history, just calls made from the app. So now I have a medium tile for RapDialer to call people and below it a small Phone tile to see incoming and missed call history. It's annoying to need 2 call apps because Microsoft made the native one crappy. Hopefully it gets fixed.
    12-08-2012 03:01 AM
  7. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    Ah! I get it now. You want People Hub to be separate thing and you want Phonebook to be a separate thing, right?

    So when you press "Phone" - you see phone book, dialer and recent history.

    Then a separate tile of "People" - you see only all people and what's new feed.

    Then a separate ME tile - you see only what you've been up to and your notifications.

    It might not be "integration" that WP is built around. The way I see it is keeping in mind what they said during 2010 launch. "You don't have to leave, open an app or exit an app to do something different". Contact cards for example, once they are linked, they have all the ways you can ever contact that person. In case you change your mind once you are in phonebook and you think, "Ah, I might just tweet him, he checks it more often", then you have that facility in current situation.

    In your scenario, you would exit phonebook. Go to people's hub, find him again and then tweet. Same scenario, now you are in People's hub and think, "You know what, this is SO unprofessional. I should just rather drop him an email". In this case, you have to exit your People's hub, go to email app or phonebook, find him, email him. But in current set up, all you do is, hit back button, tap on email and voila!

    I do understand the frustration of seeing those useless peeps you don't want to see, but such are our social lives!

    I see this as a feature that really helps me. Those scenarios I discussed above, have actually happened in my real life and I found it so convenient to be able to just tap around and do stuff without opening an email app or separate social networking app.

    I only see a single disadvantage for someone like me who saves people with weirdest nick names in phonebook. So my phone NEVER automatically links my contacts with their facebook etc like everyone else always talks about.
    12-08-2012 04:55 AM
  8. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    I feel like this is such a first world problems complaint. This is easily one of the top 5 best features of windows phone, the people hub integration.
    12-08-2012 10:38 AM
  9. manicottiK's Avatar
    I just tripped over another first-world problem related to this integration. The time it takes my car to sync with me phone has increased and the time it takes to scroll through my car's contacts has increased because the car now has many entries for people who have no actionable information (i.e., not phone number). Even turning off a data source in the People hub doesn't fix the problem because those data source checkboxes are used only to control which names display -- all of the names are still in the directory. The only way to get the car to sync quickly is to break the connection to the other data sources (twitter, linkedin, etc).
    12-08-2012 02:48 PM
  10. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    The only way to get the car to sync quickly is to break the connection to the other data sources (twitter, linkedin, etc).
    Or upgrade your car to be able to tweet and update linkedin with voice recognition ;)
    12-08-2012 05:27 PM
  11. Selfdestructo Bust's Avatar
    Ah! I get it now. You want People Hub to be separate thing and you want Phonebook to be a separate thing, right?

    So when you press "Phone" - you see phone book, dialer and recent history.

    Then a separate tile of "People" - you see only all people and what's new feed.

    Then a separate ME tile - you see only what you've been up to and your notifications.
    That is EXACTLY what I mean. :)

    It might not be "integration" that WP is built around. The way I see it is keeping in mind what they said during 2010 launch. "You don't have to leave, open an app or exit an app to do something different". Contact cards for example, once they are linked, they have all the ways you can ever contact that person. In case you change your mind once you are in phonebook and you think, "Ah, I might just tweet him, he checks it more often", then you have that facility in current situation.

    In your scenario, you would exit phonebook. Go to people's hub, find him again and then tweet. Same scenario, now you are in People's hub and think, "You know what, this is SO unprofessional. I should just rather drop him an email". In this case, you have to exit your People's hub, go to email app or phonebook, find him, email him. But in current set up, all you do is, hit back button, tap on email and voila!
    Actually, by merging the phone contacts with their corresponding networking profile you can be in a phonebook and still decide to send the person an email or tweet. You don't need to be in the People Hub to do those things. For example, as I mentioned, I'm now using the RapDialer app where I have access to a phonebook list and it just lists the contacts that have a phone number attached. But I still have them merged with FB and email so I just tap and hold (to open a menu with actions and shortcuts), then tap Profile and there is the email.

    I only see a single disadvantage for someone like me who saves people with weirdest nick names in phonebook. So my phone NEVER automatically links my contacts with their facebook etc like everyone else always talks about.
    That's weird, mine retains the Hotmail (phone contact) name after merging with FB.

    I feel like this is such a first world problems complaint. This is easily one of the top 5 best features of windows phone, the people hub integration.
    ANY problem involving a smartphone is a first world problem. You know, like your "Gmail ExchangeActiveSync Problem" thread. So please, get off your high horse.

    The People Hub is great, I love the merged contacts with all their info in one place. But the People Hub should be just that and not get recycled as the phone's phonebook. It muddles up the phonebook with useless FB contacts that you can't call.
    12-08-2012 06:41 PM
  12. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    That is EXACTLY what I mean. :)

    ANY problem involving a smartphone is a first world problem. You know, like your "Gmail ExchangeActiveSync Problem" thread. So please, get off your high horse.
    Let me rephrase that then; "This is such a whiny little b*tch problem. This would be like a lumberjack complaining about the noise that his neighbor's chainsaw makes. Put your big boy pants on Sally and man the **** up."

    Is that better Mr. Internet?

    Note that my question was asked without the connotation of "OMGSSS MY PHONE NO WORK, WOLRDS ENDINGSZ!!!!!". This complaint about the people hub integration is like a beach bum calling up American Eagle and complaining that the salmon colored polo shirt they ordered is really more of a pink.

    Look we get it, every form of technology has some problem or limitation. When you come up with the perfect idea, go ahead and implement it. See how someone finds a way to complain. This reminds me of "you're holding it wrong".
    12-08-2012 06:45 PM
  13. Selfdestructo Bust's Avatar
    Let me rephrase that then; "This is such a whiny little b*tch problem. This would be like a lumberjack complaining about the noise that his neighbor's chainsaw makes. Put your big boy pants on Sally and man the **** up."

    Is that better Mr. Internet?

    Note that my question was asked without the connotation of "OMGSSS MY PHONE NO WORK, WOLRDS ENDINGSZ!!!!!". This complaint about the people hub integration is like a beach bum calling up American Eagle and complaining that the salmon colored polo shirt they ordered is really more of a pink.

    Look we get it, every form of technology has some problem or limitation. When you come up with the perfect idea, go ahead and implement it. See how someone finds a way to complain. This reminds me of "you're holding it wrong".
    hahaha People be careful, we have an internet tough guy over here. It's funny that your don't even realize that you're the one acting like a little b*tch.
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    12-09-2012 05:59 PM
  14. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    hahaha People be careful, we have an internet tough guy over here. It's funny that your don't even realize that you're the one acting like a little b*tch.
    "ANY problem involving a smartphone is a first world problem. You know, like your "Gmail ExchangeActiveSync Problem" thread. So please, get off your high horse."

    You brought an ad hominem into this with that comment. Don't complain when you feed the bear.
    12-09-2012 07:59 PM
  15. anu anu's Avatar
    The problem is when You wan't to You Your WP Phone as a tool not a toy. If people hub contacts can be filtered for example only for Microsoft Account contact then other apps like mail, phone or sms should use filtered list. I've got many connections on linkedin and on facebook. Those people are not my close relatives. I don't wan't to see them while writing email address during composing the mail. This is problem for me. I just want to see only few people exactly from my contacts list. What's more - in Skype I want to see only my skype contacts like it was in skype client for android and ios. I'm using skype as a kind of instant messaging, I;m not using paid services in Skype. All those features without ability to filter contacts in apps makes WP8 very messy system. If MS would not change it I woul regret buying Lumia 920 :( Just let me give an option to filter people for other apps. same way I filter people in People app so that I can only see news feeds for the people I left filtered. I don't want M$ to change default behavior, I just want an option. I don't want to see all my FB contacts while searching for somebody's email in mail app.
    Last edited by anu anu; 01-07-2013 at 03:28 PM.
    01-07-2013 02:53 PM
  16. jhguth's Avatar
    You get to the contact you want to call by scrolling? Why? What a terrible waste of time.
    01-07-2013 03:06 PM
  17. philpeeps's Avatar
    You get to the contact you want to call by scrolling? Why? What a terrible waste of time.
    or tapping the letters to get to the area of the contact you want or by searching for the name you want...just like all other OS's.
    01-07-2013 03:11 PM
  18. jhguth's Avatar
    why not just type in who you want to call
    01-07-2013 03:12 PM
  19. philpeeps's Avatar
    why not just type in who you want to call
    tap magnifying glass and type away...you have to bring up the keyboard somehow anyways and the magnifying glass seems like the logical way, no?
    01-07-2013 03:21 PM
  20. jhguth's Avatar
    As an alternate, you could use RapDialer
    01-07-2013 03:23 PM
  21. GomzyRockz's Avatar
    I agree with most of the comments above. The idea behind the People's Hub is great, but sometimes I just wish the phonebook and the peoples hub are just separate. It sucks to have 300+ FB friends with no phone numbers. I can live with it for sure, and the advantages outweigh the minor inconvenience, but unless we strive for perfection we may not achieve it. Hoping MS can do something with this, and create a notification center, phuleeze. maybe swyping to the left brings the notification center ?
    01-07-2013 04:51 PM
  22. Janine B's Avatar
    I agree the contacts section sucks!
    I would like a normal phone book, the old fashioned type, one where you enter a name and a number and it forms a list in my phone.

    Why does every contact have to link to an email account or other?
    Yes, I want to be signed into my email addresses to check on emails from work and my home utility suppliers, but I want my contacts list to be separate, not people from work or British Gas.

    For example, THE MILKMAN... I occasionally like to send him a text to say 'no milk this weekend, thanks'.
    I don't want to save him to my works outlook account, and I don't want to add him to my personal outlook account, and I certainly don't want to see him on facebook.
    So where can I save the Milkman and his number???

    I'm considering creating another email account (not to ever be used), simply to save a normal phone book list. But surely this can't be the only solution.

    Is there a phone book App?
    04-17-2013 01:13 PM
  23. Kavu2's Avatar
    Why does every contact have to link to an email account or other?
    Yes, I want to be signed into my email addresses to check on emails from work and my home utility suppliers, but I want my contacts list to be separate, not people from work or British Gas.

    For example, THE MILKMAN... I occasionally like to send him a text to say 'no milk this weekend, thanks'.
    I don't want to save him to my works outlook account, and I don't want to add him to my personal outlook account, and I certainly don't want to see him on facebook.
    So where can I save the Milkman and his number???

    Is there a phone book App?
    Well there IS a new app call 'Temp Contacts' which addresses your specifics as well as possibly the OP of the thread as well.
    Here is a wpcentral thread about it

    Temp Contacts makes a separate phone/contact list which integrates with the People Hub...but can be filtered out in the People Hub settings. If you filter the Temp Contacts then they are gone from the People Hub live tile and invisible in the People Hub list (tho searchable). The Temp Contact list does not sync to your social apps or email accounts...unless you want them too and can be done on an individual basis.

    Disadvantage:
    - The contact info is stored in the app at the present time though a Skydrive backup might be a possible app update solution. So that is the obvious weak point in that a hard reset will delete your contact info.
    - There is no editing in the app, but it can be edited (and additional info added) via the People Hub entry

    Advantages:
    - Perfect for temp/throw-away contacts who you don't want to see in your home page People Hub Live Tile....or to muddle up your People Hub contact list with secondary contacts (if you filter out the Temp Contacts)
    - None of the Temp Contacts sync to your MS accounts/Facebook/email......unless you want them to. (Sync ability is in settings at each contact)....so you're not meshing these contacts with your facebook or other contact sync lists....unless you want to...and then are able to do it on a selective basis.
    - Cleans the clutter out of the People Hub list so you can actually find the person you want to call easily.
    - You will see a received/sent call from the Temp Contact list in your 'History' and 'Recent' pages of your People Hub. And you will see the incoming call info from the Temp Contacts.
    - No social texts/updates from these contacts...unless you want them.

    I'm going to use it for businesse services, general 'local scout'/'latitude' type stuff for frequent contacts(ie dentist/doctor/plumber/pizza order-out/car repair shop/etc), mainly to keep the People Hub about close friends and family so that the social syncing works for them and I don't get the clutter from the second tier contacts now stashed in Temp Contacts.

    The OP might use the Temp Contacts app in reverse fashion...eg turn it into their main contact/phone list and keep all their Facebook/Twitter contacts and social syncing going on in the People Hub as was stated as their desire.

    This app separates the social syncing from the contacts which is what was the original problem of the OP, no?
    04-17-2013 04:24 PM
  24. Ktysai's Avatar
    I hope MS adds some more filters to people hub, too many taps in order to call someone. After all it's a smartPHONE. Although I do not use it extensively as a phone and more as a PDA, I prefer to be able to call a contact faster and not to see FB, xyz contacts.
    09-21-2013 03:56 PM
  25. vipresh's Avatar
    I agree there should be clear SEPERATION of PHONE Contacts and SOCIAL-NETWORKING Contacts.
    This is the most annoying feature/BUG to be present in Windows 8, which should'nt have been FORCED upon every USER.
    Atleast they should have given users a choice to separate Phone Contact list.
    Because of this very same reason I m not able to use my new Lumia 822 after 2 weeks of Purchase.
    As the only possible work around that seemed reasonable to me was to create a New Outlook.com A/c and then import all my Phone book contacts in People Hub of new Ac and filter all the other Accounts except this New Ac on Phone.
    But Now the outlook.com doesn't allow adding more than 2 mobile numbers to any contacts and I am going crazy trying to change the import file column headers so that outlook.com picks up all the contact numbers.
    11-15-2013 06:16 AM
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