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  1. Ludwig1976's Avatar
    I think everyone needs to remember that WP8 is still very very new. iOS and Android have had years to get to where they are and still do not have some of the features that WP8 has.It may be because I have been working IT for close to 20 years and I understand how it takes time to mature. A new product as complex as a operating system will never have everything everyone wants at release that's just impossible given the complexity of modern computing hardware. If WP8 does not suit your needs you have many options. I for one love the fresh approach MS has brought the mobile and desktop world.
    It isn't a question of IT or modern OS complexity. It's just business. If they give you the perfect phone, you'll never buy a new one.
    However, WP8 doesn't lack "everything everyone wants", it lacks basic features, there's a huge difference.
    krishna6233 likes this.
    03-14-2013 04:19 AM
  2. E Lizzle's Avatar
    I think everyone needs to remember that WP8 is still very very new. iOS and Android have had years to get to where they are and still do not have some of the features that WP8 has. It may be because I have been working IT for close to 20 years and I understand how it takes time to mature. A new product as complex as a operating system will never have everything everyone wants at release that's just impossible given the complexity of modern computing hardware. If WP8 does not suit your needs you have many options. I for one love the fresh approach MS has brought the mobile and desktop world.
    I see this argument from time to time and it doesn't really work. MS has been in the phone OS market far, far longer than any other OS vendor. They've had years and years and years to get this right. That they've had to completely rewrite the OS two times now is their own internal issue. And the fact that WP 7.8 and WP8 look and function virtually identical even though they are running two entirely different OSs furthers the idea that this isn't an OS issue, it's a suite of missing functionality that sits on top of the OS. MS has had years to develop this suite. Why didn't they do it? It's not an overall corporate priority. In order for WP8 to succeed, it has to be a real priority for MS at the highest levels of their organization.
    MikeSo likes this.
    03-14-2013 09:06 AM
  3. btgusto's Avatar
    Unified app store with w8 and a unified message center.
    revnout likes this.
    03-14-2013 04:36 PM
  4. truthsforme's Avatar
    All I ask for is at least Hulu plus app. That seriously can't be too much to ask for. And for goodness sake can they please update THEIR Sudoku app. That thing takes ages just to load a small grid with numbers.
    03-15-2013 03:00 PM
  5. MikeSo's Avatar
    I still don't understand how my old "dumb phone" LG Lotus (which is a freaking AWESOME phone, btw) had so much better BASIC cellphone functions than my Lumia 900 does.

    On that, I could change not only the ringers for each contact, but the VIBRATION type for each contact, so I knew who was calling just by the type of vibration it was (I rarely use the ringer). It did of course allow me to set the volume differently for ringer, talk volume and music.
    How is it even possible that the Lumia (and as I understand it all WP phones) have ONE volume control for all sounds. That's insane. You couldn't even sell a flip phone in 2003 that had that.

    Unless MS does something to steer the ship right, NOW, I will love to read the eventual book about how the decisions about Windows Phone brought the giant to its knees. I guarantee there is so much turmoil in MS over the future of the company regarding mobile vs PC that superstorm Sandy seems like a breeze in comparison.
    03-15-2013 03:29 PM
  6. jomarr's Avatar
    Playcounts, playcounts, playcounts!

    I may be a geek but I work on a weekly music chart and post it on a forum every week. My iPhone keeps track of what I listen to with iTunes. I can do that with last.fm on my Windows Phone but the scrobblers does not really scrobble every song. It has it's errors thus making my chart inaccurate which is not the case with syncing my iPhone with iTunes. It's a bummer they replaced Zune for Xbox Live.

    But, I will still be trading my iPhone to a 920. I have an iPod classic and I think it's better for that music player to be more active than being stuck in my room.
    dgr_874 likes this.
    03-16-2013 11:05 AM
  7. krishna6233's Avatar
    Custom ringtones
    Sound profiles
    File Manager
    Fm radio
    Installing apps in memory card
    notification center

    These re the things tat is holding me back to buy a Lumia
    03-16-2013 11:28 AM
  8. fjays's Avatar
    I absolutely can't believe this.. of course I could already write a considerably list of things my former symbian phone could do or do more easily that the Nokia 820 can't. I'm already an Akruto Sync user to sync without the cloud. Now Nokia Suite used to do a very nice job of syncing between the N82 symbian phone and a chosen directory on the PC. The latest "preview 3" of the WP Desktop App finds all the photos on my PC and tries to make me put them on the phone. Then, if I want to move the photos from phone to PC, it wants me to ..wait for it.. SELECT THE PHOTOS ONE BY ONE! Like what kind of ridiculous oversight is it to not have a "select all" checkbox?!?!

    The ongoing gaping holes in WP functionality is approaching tipping point, my days with the device are numbered.. damn pity the old Nokia Suite won't work with Windows Phone 8, sounds like that Zune was better too..

    The other highly annoying thing is it insists in invoking itunes every time I start it up. I'm only now and then wanting to sync the music too..

    Furthermore, it gives you now choice for the destination directory for your photos.. .
    caesar500 likes this.
    03-17-2013 05:55 PM
  9. Jupast's Avatar
    Yikes, almost as annoying as the size of that font fjays.

    But yes, having to select things one by one in the sync software is rather ridiculous. I gave up using it.
    03-17-2013 08:15 PM
  10. weareinfinite's Avatar
    I want a lot of the same things other people have mentioned:
    -Notification center of some kind
    -Faster access to WiFi/bluetooth/data/airplane mode/etc. settings (like swiping left from the home screen for notifications and one-touch toggles for settings)
    -Closing apps from the switcher
    -Separate volume controls
    -Universal search
    -Better voice commands (I would like at least some map/direction search functions and calendar entries... I would actually use those.)

    I also want some features from Android. I played around with a Nexus 4 the other day, and I started lusting over some of the things you can do with it.
    -For one thing, widgets are great. If live tiles had more functionality, I wouldn't be jealous of widgets. As an easy example, if the frickin' ESPN ScoreCenter app actually gave me accurate live scores for my favorite teams, that would be full of win. On the Nexus 4 I plopped an ESPN score widget on the home screen and was scrolling through the current NCAA basketball scores thinking, damn, I wish my 920 could do this.
    -Similarly, I would like a news tile that actually cycles through a bunch of headlines and snippets instead of just showing one or two headlines (maybe if the tiles could flip more than once or something.. I know that doesn't make total sense).
    (Here's an idea along these lines: what if you could double tap on a tile to activate/highlight it and then "scroll" through content on that tile, like headlines, scores, etc.?)
    -I also think it'd be nice to have at least the -option- for the medium-sized tiles for the phone, mail, and messaging to show me more content than a simple count. Scroll through the subjects of my new emails or flip over and tell me who messaged me or something. Why should the double-wide tiles have all the fun? The only double-wide I have pinned is CNN. They take up too much space for my taste.
    -I like the new ability to swipe over to a widget from the lock screen, like email, SMS, etc. Then I could swipe over and quickly glance at my new emails without having to open my mail app.
    -Swipe typing.. That seems like it can be handy.
    -I also think I would frequently use a one-tap Google search bar on my home screen. That seems like such a useful feature. I know we kind of have that with our dedicated search button, but I'd like it if the keyboard came up and my phone was ready to search with just one tap. (I know the Bing photos are beautiful and MS wants to show them off and all, but it seems silly to me to have to press the search button and then tap the search field.)

    All in all I really like my 920, and with some of these improvements (and Instagram, I guess.. Sigh) I think Windows Phone could really take off.
    caesar500 likes this.
    03-18-2013 12:16 AM
  11. dukrem's Avatar
    That's pretty much exactly what's on my mind.

    1. Notification centre
    2. Fix wallet so that it works like advertised - I want to be able to do NFC payments and for there to actually be deals in the deals section.
    3. Closing apps
    4. Separate vol controls
    5. Universal search
    6. Fix the oversized font in the UI!!! It is really annoying not being able to see the full title of emails, songs or apps. Shrink the text, add a couple of non text UI elements - just basic subtle lines would do - this would make it so much more usable


    I agree that the live tiles need to be a lloooot better. This includes greater flexibility for custom UI components, animations, etc, and I would like some degree of interaction. However I don't think widgets are the way to go. In the age of fast smartphones swiping to a second homescreen with a widget for email will take just as long as launching the email app, or looking in the notification centre.

    One tap search... meh. As long as they add universal search to the bing app then I don't mind pressing the search button first.

    There is one area you mentioned where I see an opportunity for WP to really leap ahead: voice commands. Interestingly the snapdragon 800 and (I think) 600 have the ability to constantly monitor the microphones for keywords. It would be brilliant to see Microsoft implement a system like the kinnect on the xbox where you initiate a voice command by saying 'xbox', rather than having to press (or long press) a button. For example you could say 'Lumia, play my music' and it would start, with no physical interaction with the phone. Integrate this sort of voice command system with the excellent Nokia drive navigation on WP, and a google now-like personal assistant and you would have the best driving phone on the market. It would make the recently announced in car app linking systems for iOS and android (let's face it, WP is never going to see any of that) just about irrelevant. All you need is a good phone mount and a Bluetooth link.

    There's also the matter of the integrated apps which are ageing. Skype needs to be integrated into messaging, calendar needs a UI overhall, etc.
    weareinfinite likes this.
    03-18-2013 07:30 AM
  12. runam0k's Avatar
    A couple of things just seem broken in WP8. For example, why are there no proper working music apps? Deezer, Spotify, Rdio and Xbox Music all have serious issues. I could blame poor third party support (they do fine on other platforms) but why would they all struggle with WP? Similarly, not one of the podcast apps works properly and consistently. They all have issues. Loosely related: WP8 seems to frequently forget what I was listening to (so when I hit the volume button to resume, there is nothing there - I don't recall having this issue with WP7. Anyway, lots of little issues that bug me. Which is a shame because I like the platform.
    03-18-2013 10:38 AM
  13. fjays's Avatar
    I just heard I can probably just access the drives on the phone without using that Desktop App so should be able to sync the photos manually. I've never had an iphone and only very briefly had and android phone so don't have too much to compare it to. Does seem that they're taking damn long time to bring skype out of beta given that they own it, it's not a third party app really. Many things very good on the phone, fantastic screen, Nokia City Lens is good, have dictionary and compass apps all doing what they're meant to, TuneIn radio okay.

    I'll forgive them for not having an FM radio - I think they don't really put them in any of the modern smartphones. A certain misleading marketing which I really want to out with is that the Lumia is available in a range of different colours - sure I can order another case, but the store I went to had only black and someone else posted that only black was available in their store too. Furthermore, the accessories such as induction charging pillow are nowhere to be seen.. Such great design and ideas yet they keep them away from the market..
    03-18-2013 04:14 PM
  14. d_abbatelli's Avatar
    Ok... After few days of using it...
    1- Better music & sync apps. Right now, they are just incredibly buggy. And there is no wireless sync.
    2- Somehow related to number one: make some API's that allow the apps to access the memory card and write on it. Right now, this is impossible, so third party app are not allowed to do a lot of nice things (like music syncing and metadata management, but there is a lot more).
    3- Profles, and API's to create automated profile management. I want my smartphone to be smart enough to shut up when I have a lecture in the calendar and go offline mode if I'm at home after midnight.
    4- Better Facebook, better Skype, better Whatsapp, better PDF reader, better calendar.
    03-18-2013 05:08 PM
  15. MCH123's Avatar
    Another one part of the 1% here too. My Nokia 920 is the first phone I have owned that doesn't have this feature. Still really miss it after three months.
    03-18-2013 06:31 PM
  16. congusano's Avatar
    What has been frustrating me lately is the "due to limitations of the OS".

    For example:

    1. My wifes phone can record slow motion video (which is quite cool actually). It records at a lower resolution, but much higher framerate...probably 60 or 120fps and then plays it back at 30fps. I am learning that windows phone 8 can't do this... because of limitations due to the OS (the hardware can CERTAINLY handle this)
    2. No MHL to HDMI. My lumia920 has fully capable hardware, but the OS doesn't support it? (have seen reports that the "device" doesn't support it, but according to the MHL standards, it can). Bummer.
    3. Live tiles updating quicker than every 30 minutes... I dont know how many apps i've installed that said they can't, because of "limitations of the OS".


    I can go on. /rant
    03-19-2013 10:12 AM
  17. ChMar's Avatar
    What has been frustrating me lately is the "due to limitations of the OS".

    3. Live tiles updating quicker than every 30 minutes... I dont know how many apps i've installed that said they can't, because of "limitations of the OS".
    Live tiles can be updated more frequently than 30 minutes. But consider what you are asking. You want apps roaming in the background and consuming trafic and battery? Do you really need tiles to update more than 30 minutes? It can anyway update more frequently than 30 mins but what do you need it for?
    03-19-2013 10:27 AM
  18. FinancialP's Avatar
    Live tiles can be updated more frequently than 30 minutes. But consider what you are asking. You want apps roaming in the background and consuming trafic and battery? Do you really need tiles to update more than 30 minutes? It can anyway update more frequently than 30 mins but what do you need it for?
    I never understood this misconception. The Basketball live app tile updates every 30 seconds.
    03-19-2013 10:45 AM
  19. ChMar's Avatar
    I never understood this misconception. The Basketball live app tile updates every 30 seconds.
    That's because they are obssesed with live tiles for battery. Which are the one that can't update faster than 30 minutes. You can have the tile update as fast as you want for a real app. And also live tiles are not widget. They have a different meaning, they are a window in the app without having the app running. Beside battery live tiles I can't think of any use for a tile that updates fast. You are a couple of seconds on the home screen and spend your time in an app. Why would you wan't faster tiles? To convey what information?
    FinancialP likes this.
    03-19-2013 10:55 AM
  20. HerronScott's Avatar
    Same issue here although just being able to use the alarm tone for a text alert would solve the issue for me! I was able to do this with my last Windows Mobile 6.5 phone and it worked great (change to the alarm tone when on call and change it back when not on call).

    Scott
    03-19-2013 01:12 PM
  21. Robert Carpenter's Avatar
    Am I the only one who finds it hilariously stupid that the form of communication for these highly critical on-call situations is a text message?

    Why isn't anyone complaining that 911 doesn't offer a text-message service?
    03-19-2013 03:18 PM
  22. E Lizzle's Avatar
    Am I the only one who finds it hilariously stupid that the form of communication for these highly critical on-call situations is a text message?

    Why isn't anyone complaining that 911 doesn't offer a text-message service?
    Stupid, yes, in a sense. The text messages are generated by systems monitoring software when it has detected an abnormality. It's not economically feasible (or normal) to install an automated voice dialing system.

    -E
    03-19-2013 03:24 PM
  23. Robert Carpenter's Avatar
    Stupid, yes, in a sense. The text messages are generated by systems monitoring software when it has detected an abnormality. It's not economically feasible (or normal) to install an automated voice dialing system.

    -E
    So then it's clearly the monitoring system that's lacking features, not the phone lol. Automated Voice dialing systems are actually very feasible with today's technology. They pretty much come standard now with VoIP systems...
    03-19-2013 03:34 PM
  24. teng_m's Avatar
    I wish MS could add this feature. Locking to your preferrerd signal of gsm/egde, 3g/hspda , 4g/LTE only just like my old e71. i know this sounds stupid to some but in my area, 2g signal is very strong and 3g/4g signal is really crappy. It keeps changing signal every second I'm using the internet connection. and that is so hellish
    03-19-2013 10:57 PM
  25. abel920's Avatar
    Yes you can, go check your settings again.
    03-19-2013 10:59 PM
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