03-29-2013 01:51 PM
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  1. Kevin N Smith's Avatar
    She didn't talk about the fact that a new major app was released every day last week? That's impressive.
    03-28-2013 07:33 AM
  2. WinFan1's Avatar
    i just wish microsoft came to the party in 07/08 because then people wouldnt bash so much on windows because practically everyone would be on an even footing when it came to applications.
    03-28-2013 08:44 AM
  3. ammarmalik2011's Avatar
    I chuckled at the part where the writer mentions Joe Belfiore's tweets. The guy announces a couple of apps and calls it a 'great week'.
    03-28-2013 09:01 AM
  4. lipper2000's Avatar
    Dude he receives paycheck from the biggest troll site. I soon learn to give him a break.

    I like Tom and at the end of the day it's about ad revenue and it's his paycheck...he seems personally like a great guy and I enjoy most of his twitter comments...it's his articles that have taken a dive.
    There doesn't seem to be any real tech news on theverge other than regurgitated copies of other sites or themselves...
    03-28-2013 09:03 AM
  5. lipper2000's Avatar
    In my opinion, whether or not her article is true or not doesn't really matter. The reason that people are calling it click-bait is because of its overly-dramatic title and then fails to bring anything new to the table. Her article pretty much only states what is already common knowledge and is thus largely unnecessary. Worst of all she not only flat out dismisses some of the strides the platform has made in the roughly 5 months it has been out, but she also completely overlooks others. Microsoft has to start somewhere and well-established products are as good a place as any.

    Statements like those by the developer of Evernote that WP8 users spend more money than Android users are a pretty big deal. Those are the kind of statements that will make developers take notice. One of the major reasons that the big name apps are typically released on iOS before Android is due to the fact that iOS users typically are willing to spend more money. If that trend continues it could prove to be a huge part of WP8's success. The fact that more and more big name developers are starting to release apps on the platform, even if they are older apps, shows that developers are beginning to gain confidence in the platform.

    In terms of gaming, I think WP8 recently took one of its most important steps, yet it has gone largely unnoticed by people like the article's author simply because it is not as flashy as a brand new game. That step was gaining support for the Unity game engine. The last statistic I saw said that 53% of all iOS/Android games are powered by the Unity engine. If true that means that prior to gaining support for Unity, even if all other deciding factors for a developer to port a game to WP8 were taken care of, over half the games available on iOS/Android could not be ported over to WP8 without redesigning them to work on a completely different game engine. Porting games over to another platform is already hassle enough, and redesigning a game to run on another engine only adds to the cost of development. Now start to add back in the other issues with the platform such as a lack of marketshare and it is pretty easy to see why WP8 has been slow to add new titles. Unity only officially added WP8 support yesterday and even then it is only in beta. It will take some time for us to see the effects of this, but it has laid the foundation for more efficient development of games both new and old alike.

    Contrary to popular belief, Microsoft has made some important strides with the platform. These improvements combined with the recent influx of big name apps tend to point to growing confidence in the platform and that can only lead to bigger and better things. I think the biggest threat at this point is whether or not WP8 can sustain/improve its momentum after all of the hype for the galaxy S4 and whatever Apple brings to the table later this year. As long as WP8 can grow its marketshare we will eventually reach a point where developers cannot so easily dismiss us.
    You said it far better than I did/could.
    Kudos.
    03-28-2013 09:06 AM
  6. lipper2000's Avatar
    i just wish microsoft came to the party in 07/08 because then people wouldnt bash so much on windows because practically everyone would be on an even footing when it came to applications.
    No doubt...they are years too late and thus is the reason for them really having to scramble...at the same time, the justice department in the US really killed off the integration they are now doing in the late 1990's and that only ended a couple of years ago.
    I'm not so sure in 2007 the government would have allowed them to release Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 that would have the same core and eventually have the ability to run the exact same apps...
    03-28-2013 09:07 AM
  7. WinFan1's Avatar
    No doubt...they are years too late and thus is the reason for them really having to scramble...at the same time, the justice department in the US really killed off the integration they are now doing in the late 1990's and that only ended a couple of years ago.
    I'm not so sure in 2007 the government would have allowed them to release Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 that would have the same core and eventually have the ability to run the exact same apps...
    i agree with you just wishful thinking on my part. I just feel that currently all the hate that microsoft is getting is really unjustified, sure they released a few things half baked but at the end of the day they are just moving in a forward direction. How? I'll tell you, they are taking design philosophy completely seriously, they are sticking to their guns regardless of criticism, they are to some extent heeding the communities pleas, working with OEMS to bring some completely unique looking devices that call out to the attention of multiple people while hitting multiple price points (especially 520/720) and above all bringing speed reliability and fluidity with their products. i commend microsoft because they are different then when i was growing up, are they perfect? no..not by any means, but they are seriously trying to win back some of the trust they lost in the 90's.
    03-28-2013 09:42 AM
  8. Nick Archambault1's Avatar
    I still do not get everyone's infatuation with Instagram.

    The only app I was missing was Pandora which is now available. Otherwise a revamped Facebook and a few other apps being updated to Win 8 is all the platform really needs.
    03-28-2013 12:11 PM
  9. HeyCori's Avatar
    I still do not get everyone's infatuation with Instagram.
    It makes fauxtographers feel better about themselves.
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    03-28-2013 12:13 PM
  10. JerseySal's Avatar
    Who gives a flying f what a few asshat bloggers say about a mobile telephone that they obviously don't use? There's too many J. Riveras in the tech blogosphere. They can all fall down an empty elevator shaft into a pile of infected syringes for all I care. Eff em!
    WavingReds likes this.
    03-28-2013 12:42 PM
  11. Spicymikey's Avatar
    No WP8 is not that bad at all. In fact, their pretty damn good. I owned an iPhone for 4 years, had an Android (briefly) and tried a Nokia 920 this January. I'm not 17 so I don't care about games that much anymore. I'm an adult looking for a productivity tool. I'm extremely happy with this. It integrates with by backend servers better than the iPhone. Not nearly as quirky as the Android was, and is on some fantastic hardware from Nokia. I plan to stay with this and don't understand this article. The author sounds like she has an axe to grind
    03-28-2013 12:46 PM
  12. WavingReds's Avatar
    It makes fauxtographers feel better about themselves.
    not only that but it causes a higher spike in obesity by posting lots of food pictures.

    Man I'm on a diet but I sure do get heckla hungry looking at these new notifications of foods.
    HeyCori and Laura Knotek like this.
    03-28-2013 01:18 PM
  13. red grenadine's Avatar
    I mean look, she is right. The article is harsh but accurate. We've had some recent momentum but that doesn't excuse the 4 intervening months since launch with basically jack.

    There are a multitude of apps we don't have and many are dealbreakers for people. It's been 2.5 years since WP7 launched and Microsoft has been unbelievably slow in getting key apps on the platform.

    As to the writers and click bait headlines - these people get paid on view counts. Headlines that incite and create controversy generate clicks and comments. Places like The Verge want to create as much controversy and stir up as much crap as possible, as that's what brings home the bacon
    03-28-2013 01:22 PM
  14. falconrap's Avatar
    The SDK was released just a few months ago and it takes months, typically, to knock at programs. I don't think it's any coincidence that all of these apps are starting to come out. Quite frankly, I expect the flood to continue. A lull might happen here or there, but every time I turn around another app is released. Give it another 3-4 months and I don't think anyone will really be able to run with the app argument anymore. Let's not forget that WP8 is also getting some unique and exclusive apps on top of all these ports.
    03-28-2013 01:45 PM
  15. BobR1908's Avatar
    To be honest, this article and any other review or opinion article means absolutely nothing to me.

    All that matters to me is that my phone provides me with what I need and that I enjoy having it.
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    03-28-2013 04:11 PM
  16. Dave Blake's Avatar
    Sensational read defiantly written by someone who needs you to read it and will say what ever it takes to hold your interest.

    Cue sad trombone. Wamp wamp
    03-28-2013 04:53 PM
  17. waazzupppp's Avatar
    I love articles like this because they usually ignore the core functionality of the OS. Everyone complains that WP's Facebook App is terrible, yet they forget that they use the People and Me Tiles for most of their updates. The complain because the Twitter Apps are weak, yet, the OS integrates so well with it as well. People get hung up on Apps so easily and everyone is right... It's the quality, not the quantity of them. Of course, the quality is something that is in question when many are missing - especially from transfers...

    Here is my list of Apps that need to make an appearance soon...

    Blogger - The number one Android blogging program and staple to those that used Picasa and Google for their daily lives. Yes, you can blog by email, but should you have to?
    Instagram - Sure we throw out the "We don't need it" line, but we have these great cameras and we don't have the most popular camera app in the world?
    Video Sharing - The lackluster options for sharing videos off Windows Phone stinks... Get me a YouTube app that will upload directly or Qik or anything...

    Other than that, the core functions and a few Apps get me through the day just fine. Sometimes people just need to realize what a phone OS can do before they start asking for Apps.
    03-28-2013 07:09 PM
  18. lipper2000's Avatar
    I still do not get everyone's infatuation with Instagram.

    The only app I was missing was Pandora which is now available. Otherwise a revamped Facebook and a few other apps being updated to Win 8 is all the platform really needs.
    It doesn't matter...Instagram is used by a lot of people.
    You have to be realistic, this is an app that can really sell a phone to some people in western countries
    03-29-2013 01:40 AM
  19. anon(123856)'s Avatar
    It doesn't matter...Instagram is used by a lot of people.
    You have to be realistic, this is an app that can really sell a phone to some people in western countries
    And that is sad...
    03-29-2013 05:43 AM
  20. JMBasquiat's Avatar
    It makes fauxtographers feel better about themselves.
    Or, it makes it possible to connect to great photographers and other visual artists on the go in a way that was nearly impossible a few years back.

    You do realize that a lot of professional photographers have their profiles up on Instagram now, don't you? Let's not be dismissive of something just because you don't understand it.
    03-29-2013 05:54 AM
  21. ohgood's Avatar
    lots of points for improvement are listed, if you can see past the negative.

    the convenience store coffee, damn, that was harsh. ill agree on click bait for that one.
    03-29-2013 06:38 AM
  22. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    Or, it makes it possible to connect to great photographers and other visual artists on the go in a way that was nearly impossible a few years back.

    You do realize that a lot of professional photographers have their profiles up on Instagram now, don't you? Let's not be dismissive of something just because you don't understand it.
    If it's about connecting to "real" great photographers - Flickr has been around for long. There has been ways to access blogs of your favourite photographer since ages. So even few years back it was possible. What these photosharing apps do is - give a chance for any Tom, **** or Harry to put his pictures on by adding filters and just push it out on the net, because he can. As much as I love seeing some excellent photos from people, you have to understand that probably 10,000 out of 10 millions users on Instagram are doing real photography, the rest are just adding filters to their noodles.
    03-29-2013 07:46 AM
  23. TonyDedrick's Avatar
    If it's about connecting to "real" great photographers - Flickr has been around for long. There has been ways to access blogs of your favourite photographer since ages. So even few years back it was possible. What these photosharing apps do is - give a chance for any Tom, **** or Harry to put his pictures on by adding filters and just push it out on the net, because he can. As much as I love seeing some excellent photos from people, you have to understand that probably 10,000 out of 10 millions users on Instagram are doing real photography, the rest are just adding filters to their noodles.
    Not really sure what your point is.
    03-29-2013 08:00 AM
  24. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    Not really sure what your point is.
    That before Instagram we had real photographers and we could discover new ones too and that Instagram isn't a holy grail for finding awesome photographers. It's an app to add filters and share it on internet, because in this day and age, we can absolutely chuck anything on internet!
    03-29-2013 08:19 AM
  25. TonyDedrick's Avatar
    It makes fauxtographers feel better about themselves.
    As much as a myopic view this article is, don't you think?
    03-29-2013 08:27 AM
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