04-24-2013 04:31 AM
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  1. AngryNil's Avatar
    [UPDATE] I ruled out the 520 (too few features) and the 720 (at the price, I'd want 1GB of RAM). Members brought up some higher end devices which I did not realise had dropped in price so drastically, so I'm now looking at those against the 620! To see the original comparison of 520 vs 620 vs 720, you can check the post history.

    So, my Omnia 7 seems to be nearing the end of its life. The battery randomly gets shot, the microUSB port is jacked up, I can't develop on it because there's no native code support, and it's just slow by today's standards. I'm not particularly drawn to any current Windows Phone flagship, so I intend to purchase a relatively inexpensive device for now. I hope to keep whatever I buy until late 2014, when I'll reevaluate and hopefully find a flagship that suits me better.

    I'm looking for the best bang for my buck, so I'm balancing feature set with affordability. This is going to be an unlocked device purchased at full price. I've included the Australian pricing for the devices in the bottom graph, so you get some perspective in that regard. I'm considering the Lumia 620, Lumia 820 and HTC 8X. I've researched this fairly thoroughly, but can't make my mind up. I'd appreciate any and all opinions, especially from owners of these devices.


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    Ideals

    Design: Good looking, but at some point function overrules form.
    Screen: Nice blacks and sunlight readability.
    Imaging: Decent front and rear shooters (price dependent).
    Battery: The bigger the better, but as long as it can last a day.
    [B]Internals:[/B lower-tier S4 and 512MB of RAM.
    Sensors: I'd love wireless charging, but it isn't a deal breaker.
    Software: Some form of Nokia mapping. Nokia hasn't opened Drive to all devices in Australia.
    Price: $200-$300 is ideal, but I'd stretch for $400 for a much better phone.
    Biggest fears: Microsoft discontinues Windows Phone.


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    620

    Design: Many will disagree, but I consider it the ugly duckling of the WP8 Lumia range. Thick, disproportionate and I don't care for the dual-shot cover.
    Screen: Good. Finer pixel density than the 820, contrast and blacks look fine.
    Imaging: 5MP rear shooter + LED flash. Front facing camera is VGA, but at least it's there.
    Battery: Seems unspectacular, roughly on par with the 520.
    Internals: lower-tier S4 and 512MB of RAM. 8GB + microSD for storage.
    Sensors: Necessities are there.
    Software: Everything is there and just works.
    Price: $248 for local stock. Well priced, in my opinion.
    Biggest fears: I'll lose out on future multitasking features and the best apps due to 512MB of RAM.


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    820

    Design: Relatively compact design from Nokia, but pays for it in thickness. Not too shabby.
    Screen: RGB stripe AMOLED at 4.3". Will be nice, but is shadowed by the 720p of the 8X.
    Imaging: Punches below the mark for launch pricing, but current pricing makes it passable.
    Battery: Haven't heard much, I'm assuming it lasts well enough. If I decide to go crazy, there's that Mugen extended battery.
    Internals: higher-tier S4 with 1GB of RAM. 8GB + microSD for storage.
    Sensors: Gyroscope! Wireless charging cover + pad should come free with local stock.
    Software: Everything is there and everything just works.
    Price: $414 for local stock, $318 for grey import. 8X is a better deal looking at hardware, but 820 may be the better choice due to ecosystem.
    Biggest fears: Next generation mid-range Lumias will make $400 seem poorly spent.


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    8X

    Design: Crap buttons + top mounted power button (HTC, please pay Nokia for double-tap to wake). Looks gorgeous.
    Screen: 4.3" 1280x720? Yes please.
    Imaging: Competitive front and rear shooters. Processes images real fast.
    Battery: Seems to have been panned in review for poor battery life. Makes sense with the HD screen.
    Internals: higher-tier S4 with 1GB of RAM. 16GB non-expandable storage, shouldn't be a problem if Microsoft patches "Other".
    Sensors: Necessities are there.
    Software: No Nokia mapping. HTC could EOL this device any day. The deal breaker could be here.
    Price: $383 for local stock. Highly competitive if one is confident in HTC.
    Biggest fears: HTC doesn't update the device and Nokia doesn't release mapping soon.


    Ranking table thing

    620 820 8X
    Design 2 1 1
    Screen 3 2 1
    Imaging 3 2 1
    Battery 2 1 2
    Internals 2 1 1
    Sensors 2 1 2
    Software 1 1 3
    Price $248 $414 ($318 grey import) $383
    Last edited by AngryNil; 04-23-2013 at 08:13 AM.
    04-22-2013 11:41 AM
  2. AUCLABruin's Avatar
    What is your carrier? It may help decide which model, and if you're in the U.S, you could go for the Lumia 8XX series, depending on the carrier.
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    04-22-2013 12:00 PM
  3. ttsoldier's Avatar
    I don't get these threads. I never will.

    How are we supposed to help YOU pick a phone for you. You have already listed the pros and cons for each device. Weigh them yourself.

    How am I supposed to know what matters the most to you? Only you will know and you've already done the hard work.
    04-22-2013 12:03 PM
  4. squire777's Avatar
    I think the 520 is too bare-boned so I would only get that if it was going to be a temporary device until getting something better down the road.

    It would be down to the 620 and 720 for me but I would end up going with the 720 due to the screen size. Aside from the RAM the 720 is a very good deal for that price.
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    04-22-2013 12:07 PM
  5. AngryNil's Avatar
    What is your carrier? It may help decide which model, and if you're in the U.S, you could go for the Lumia 8XX series, depending on the carrier.
    Buying outright to go on a prepaid mobile operator. It seems that if I consider grey imports, I can get the 820 for a reasonable price. Thanks for that thought.
    04-22-2013 12:11 PM
  6. svenhassel's Avatar
    I have a 620. I really wanted the Drive Plus option, and the price was just right for me. If you really care about using it with gloves, just buy special gloves. They are cheap.
    Until now, I never noticed any problem with 512 of RAM, but I just donīt care about games. I hate playing in cell phone screens.

    I never had problems with the battery, but Iīm not a heavy user playing games and using facebook all day. My battery always lasts the whole day.

    The screen is the same size as my previous phone, but I guess that nowadays is in the small side. Again, I use it mainly to work, to have my contacts and calendar in perfect sync, so I donīt care. Iīm not a road warrior, and I normally have the laptop or iPad close for other tasks that are more enjoyable in a bigger screen, like reading the news.

    I donīt understand why the 720 doesnīt have Drive Plus, that detail killed it as an option for me.
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    04-22-2013 08:26 PM
  7. AngryNil's Avatar
    Until now, I never noticed any problem with 512 of RAM, but I just donīt care about games. I hate playing in cell phone screens.

    I never had problems with the battery, but Iīm not a heavy user playing games and using facebook all day. My battery always lasts the whole day.

    The screen is the same size as my previous phone, but I guess that nowadays is in the small side. Again, I use it mainly to work, to have my contacts and calendar in perfect sync, so I donīt care. Iīm not a road warrior, and I normally have the laptop or iPad close for other tasks that are more enjoyable in a bigger screen, like reading the news.
    I'm less concerned about games and more worried that any future multitasking or background task enhancements will be restricted on 512MB devices. 1GB really gives Microsoft a lot more wiggle room in this aspect. Good to hear the battery life is working out for you, I think the general consensus is all non-defective Windows Phones can last a day. I currently use a 4.0" phone, so 3.8" probably won't be too bad for me. However, I currently don't have a tablet so I end up consuming a lot of content on my phone.

    It's looking like the Lumia 620 will be the one, unless I hold out for a discount on the 820, or maybe even the 8X (though I'm not too sure I'd want to go with HTC on the software side).
    04-22-2013 10:26 PM
  8. alllies's Avatar
    Here maps/drive is still beta same goes with maps/drive+. Once they exit beta 720 can have the plus. Do you have international driver's licence? I thought here maps have navigation..
    04-22-2013 11:17 PM
  9. raccoon210's Avatar
    I would pick the 620. I think it offers the perfect balance between affordability and functionality. However if the design is very important to you and you can't seem to love the 620, I think the 520 is designed gorgeously but the ffc and flash turned me off of it.
    04-22-2013 11:31 PM
  10. Jay_wpcentral's Avatar
    Either pick up the 620 or go higher, like an 820 and above.

    520 is too low on features and 720 is asking for way too much on price for a 512 MB device
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    04-22-2013 11:55 PM
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    04-23-2013 12:04 AM
  12. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    If you want a 512 MB WP8 Lumia, get a 620 or 720, depending on your needs.

    If you want a device that will last you a long time hardware-wise, get the 620. The phone is perfect for one-handed use and should be enough for day-to-day use.
    If you want a longer lasting battery (something that won't run out by the end of the day), get the 720. It has stuff that makes its $350 price worth it, such as a camera better that the 820's, a design that's better than the 920's and every feature on the high-end Lumias (bar PureView Phase II and PureMotion HD+ display)

    I wouldn't recommend the 520 due to its lack of the CBD technology, which is too glaring an omission on a Lumia.

    Excuse the pun, ClearBlack prevents glare.
    04-23-2013 12:08 AM
  13. Dustin Hodges's Avatar
    Buying outright to go on a prepaid mobile operator. It seems that if I consider grey imports, I can get the 820 for a reasonable price. Thanks for that thought.
    Be careful buying outright phones (imported and where you live). I don't know where you live, but if you are in the US, than not all phones work on all carriers. TMobile phones require an extra band to get the best coverage and speed (because not very many places have 3G running on the bands non-tmobile phones use, so choose wisely.), and ive read about devices not connecting properly to certain features (mms, web) with ATT and ATT-based carriers.

    So keep carrier in consideration all the same (unless you're outside the US. than it probably wouldn't matter)

    My suggestion: Don't even consider the 620 or 720 if you don't live in areas where T-Mobile has great coverage or compatible bands. 521 (upon release) would be best bet (or a refurbished 810 {T-Mobiles ver. 820} if you can afford it {$240 online}). If you go Non-tmobile, id shoot for the 620. 820 is probably too pricy new, and 720, as others stated, is just asking too much for what it is. If your outside the us, ive wasted my breath and give my apologies.
    04-23-2013 12:53 AM
  14. Huime's Avatar
    This reminds me when we were doing analysis the best choice between 777 330 737 737, stretch or not, ER or not, 3 layout or 2, seat, cargo or range. Ah fun times.
    04-23-2013 03:22 AM
  15. James8561's Avatar
    Battery shouldn't be a problem if you turn off your phone at night when you sleep which you should do anyway.
    I can get over 3 days of battery in my 920 if I don't use it a lot and turn it off every night :)
    usually 2 days or more though unless I play intensive games in which it drops to 1.5 days haha.
    HERE Drive can be upgraded to + if you buy a license.

    tbh the 620 seems best. the 520 is way too low-end low-quality and the 720 seems a bit overpriced to me.
    04-23-2013 03:28 AM
  16. Mellifluous's Avatar
    I would recommend the 620 vs the 520 and 720.

    Feature-wise, nothing makes the other phones stand out.

    The 620 has a nice screen which makes browsing enjoyable - whites look very good. The only criticism I'd make is the feel of the screen to scroll is quite plasticky, though it's glass, and takes a bit getting used to.

    The device's size and body makes it fit very nicely in the hand. It's nice and curved and compact to feel in the hand and just right, while the 800/820 unibody phones feel a bit big and angular.

    The camera, though only 5MP and no Carl Zeiss lens, is pretty good. I own an 800 and find myself appreciating my 620 pics just as much as my 800's ones. The front facing one is decent too, and when buying it I compared it to the 820's, and the quality appeared the same, i.e. not as good as the 920's. I expect the front facing camera quality is much the same on the 720.

    Overall, apart from the design there's no real reason to get the 520 or 720 over the 620. It is just as powerful and the components make for a good phone. I like the design, that it's got a unique look over other Lumias, and if you can overcome your initial dislike then I think you will grow to appreciate it, especially its power yet snug wize. Just don't get a white one, as they do get dirty easily - Cyan was my choice :)
    04-23-2013 07:06 AM
  17. AngryNil's Avatar
    Battery shouldn't be a problem if you turn off your phone at night when you sleep which you should do anyway.
    I really have no idea what to expect regarding battery. My Omnia 7's microUSB port is bent or something and the battery seems to have gone wonky, so it's actually going flat on me in the middle of the day sometimes. Nearly all current Windows Phones have users who complain about poor battery life.

    Be careful buying outright phones (imported and where you live). I don't know where you live, but if you are in the US, than not all phones work on all carriers. TMobile phones require an extra band to get the best coverage and speed (because not very many places have 3G running on the bands non-tmobile phones use, so choose wisely.), and ive read about devices not connecting properly to certain features (mms, web) with ATT and ATT-based carriers.
    I am outside of the US, but your advice wasn't wasted. I completely forgot about checking network bands, which can still be a problem (granted a much smaller one) in other countries. Thanks.

    What about the 820?
    It's selling @ the moment for around $315...
    Yeah, I'm thinking either 620, or bumping right up to 820. I've been eyeing Kogan and Expansys, I'm reluctant to trust the other sites.

    Interestingly enough, Mobileciti has Australian stock of the 8X for $370 (!) and an Optus-branded 820 for $400. I'd pull the trigger on the 8X, but there's no Nokia mapping and HTC could very well cut off updates prematurely. I'll be considering the Australian 820 if I can claim the wireless charger, time to work out where to cough up the money from :)
    04-23-2013 07:16 AM
  18. Slai's Avatar
    Personally id go for the 620. All tests hail it.
    04-23-2013 07:40 AM
  19. JimiDiGriz's Avatar
    I went for an 820 and don't regret it at all. Good screen size, compact design considering and similar internals to the 920. Slapped a 64gb SD in and very happy. Wouldn't go for anything other than a Nokia due to their support and bespoke apps.
    04-23-2013 10:10 AM
  20. gsquared's Avatar
    I don't get these threads. I never will.

    How are we supposed to help YOU pick a phone for you. You have already listed the pros and cons for each device. Weigh them yourself.

    How am I supposed to know what matters the most to you? Only you will know and you've already done the hard work.
    I agree with ttsoldier. Stop over-analyzing and just gethte phone you like best.
    04-23-2013 10:26 AM
  21. AngryNil's Avatar
    I went for an 820 and don't regret it at all. Good screen size, compact design considering and similar internals to the 920. Slapped a 64gb SD in and very happy. Wouldn't go for anything other than a Nokia due to their support and bespoke apps.
    Apart from the HERE services, which have been released for all devices in some countries already, I really don't see that much value in Nokia's exclusive collection. They seem to be either the kind of apps that you either need or don't need, or games that personally don't excite me.

    But I am impressed with what Nokia is doing on top of Windows Phone, such as the upcoming double-tap to wake and standby clock. Despite the fact that I am highly disappointed in HTC for backing away from its "signature" devices, the 8X may very well end up as my choice if I can be adequately convinced that HTC is going to roll out future OS updates, and on time.
    04-23-2013 10:27 AM
  22. mitunchidamparam's Avatar
    My friend I will never by the HTC 8X because i have seen many photos of people complaining that the plastic peels of , it is not the same polycarbonate as the nokia phones
    HTC 8X has no here maps + , that is a big deal breaker too since, a GPS device standalone will cost 100 bucks + 10 bucks for extra maps + many more for updates.
    620 is nice, but i am put off by how small it is.
    I will go with 820 since it has removable storage , removable battery and last of all, i has AMOLED screen, which is a fantastic.
    Go for 820 it has higher ram, processor and you will never have the feeling of regret that you missed some features
    It is better than HTC one X and S 3 in browser benchmark.
    Seriously, i think we use phone 99% just for the browser
    and the AMOLED screen is good for it
    Last edited by mitunchidamparam; 04-23-2013 at 11:15 AM.
    04-23-2013 10:38 AM
  23. svenhassel's Avatar
    I currently use a 4.0" phone, so 3.8" probably won't be too bad for me. However, I currently don't have a tablet so I end up consuming a lot of content on my phone.
    If you plan to consume a lot of content, then I would suggest something bigger than the 620: the 820. However, some apps are perfect for the size of the 620 to read the news, like Weave, CNN or Collector.

    In the end its a matter of what you can afford. For a low budget the 620 is the best option.
    04-23-2013 11:03 AM
  24. ImAdrian23's Avatar
    I've bought the 8X. Couldn't wait for 920 any longer.
    I really like my Californian Blue phone. I had no problems with peeling or anything (well had one but it was from factory, but it's been repaired).
    I love its design but I keep it in a case (HTC's) as I tend to drop it ... One thing that bothered me is the camera, it seems like it cannot focus as good as I thought it would. Might be a faulty sensor? I don't really know but I took really COOL pictures with it. I'm going to share a few with you later :). I can run any games so far (thought Gravity Guy 2 lags when coins appear and because my other friends have low end WPs I cannot test it on theirs, but what I've seen from YT is that the lag happened on different phones -WAITING FOR YOUR REVIEW WPCENTRAL >_>). Sometimes it bothers me that cool games (Cut the Rope etc) don't use the 720p but I'm fine as long as they will change it in the future.
    I don't want to persuade you buying the 8X but that's the phone I would've chosen if I were in your shoes.
    04-23-2013 11:12 AM
  25. Slai's Avatar
    If you include the 820, id take that. But i hate the design and feel of the htc wp phones.
    04-23-2013 12:33 PM
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