05-15-2013 09:27 PM
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  1. constantinosmi's Avatar
    It wasnt a Nexus 4, HTC One or S4. because it is BS.

    I would mention it's embarrassing you have a WP
    Why does it have to be only those 3 devices?
    05-13-2013 05:27 AM
  2. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    It wasnt a Nexus 4, HTC One or S4. because it is BS.

    I would mention it's embarrassing you have a WP
    I'm definitely happy with my Lumia 920. Speak for yourself. Anyway, your posts are coming across as aggressive, so be careful.

    [WARN]And a general warning to everyone as I can see the thread going this way, no personal attacks.[/WARN]
    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 05-13-2013 at 06:31 AM.
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    05-13-2013 05:38 AM
  3. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    It wasnt a Nexus 4, HTC One or S4. because it is BS.

    I would mention it's embarrassing you have a WP
    We have a galaxy S2 in our home with 2.3.6 which is less than 2 years old.Yes S2 is still running the default software in which it came in 2011 i.e gingerbread

    It reboots on its own everyday minimum two times from last 5 months.

    Even after a reset , it still behaves same after few days.

    Most Android devices are use-and-throw phones.

    Galaxy S4 , really ?
    'S Lag' a Complaint for International Galaxy S4 Owners With Exynos 5 Octa CPU
    05-13-2013 06:42 AM
  4. absonj's Avatar
    No. Just no. Stop it it's obvious you don't have an Android phone because these claims are BS.
    No its true. I had an HTC Thunderbolt and it would constantly reboot daily. Thats within a week after buying it. Within the first 6 months, it was rebooting 2 to 3 times a day, and would even during conversations on the phone. I finally rooted it and added a custom rom because that was the only way I was told to make it more stable. And it was, for 6 months, then it started back rebooting again. I found every month changing the rom was the only way to keep it stable. And by stable, I mean it wouldn't reboot all the time. No rom aver kept the lag or stutter away. That was an issue from day one. Just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Even a friend of mine that I work with had a TB and the same issues. He delt with them because he didn't want to root.

    Yes, it wasn't a nexus or an HTC one or the S4, but that only means a few models have shown better performance, the core system is still at fault. If you put a bad program in a 'state of the art' system with the latest and greatest hardware, it will funtion a little better than a lower end system, but that doesn't mean it is a better system, its just better at handling all the issues and forcing it to work, for a while. Eventually it won't be able to handle the problems, and they will start cropping up. My friend is running an S4 now, and he loves it. Except for the occasional lags it does, which he tried to hide when showing me (we did the windows phone challenge) and right there, opening his camera app and trying to post a picture to facebook, I was done before he even opened his facebook app, because of that lag.
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    05-13-2013 10:27 AM
  5. WPmunkey's Avatar
    Why does it have to be only those 3 devices?
    Because these 3 take longer to start lagging. You will make past your 14 day return window and be stuck with it. Then your only choice will be to throw it to the ground.

    And no Chetan, I don't have an Android, not anymore. There is an old HTC Rhyme still hanging around that actually became slower after updating. I can't find the DroidX or X2 (dual core, twice as slow) that I had to clear the keyboard cache daily or it would be totally unusable (wtf is keyboard cache anyway?). Or I can borrow one of my friends s2, s3, or Nexus whatever but they would all be the same story.... Sorry bro
    05-13-2013 01:01 PM
  6. Euell Gibbons's Avatar
    I owned 2 and 1/2 Android phones (2 Real android phones, one WM6.5 phone with Android ported to it) plus a Google Nexus 7 tablet. I have experience with Android. Android is buggy and laggy, period. Some phones are better than others, but ultimately the phones are going to lag or reboot. That is just the nature of Android. I switched to a Lumia 822 and it is an entirely different world. No more lag. The phone just works.

    WP8 has its own issues, (missing a few important apps, limited customization, no swype or webkit browsers) but they pale in comparison to the constant flash/fix/re-flash hassle you deal with with Android phones. It was fun at first playing with the different ROMs, but now it's just a chore, and it shouldn't be necessary anyway.
    05-13-2013 04:01 PM
  7. anon5664829's Avatar
    Why does it have to be only those 3 devices?
    It doesn't. 4.1 fixed lag on most phones.
    05-13-2013 04:50 PM
  8. absonj's Avatar
    I'm out. there is no point talking to you guys plain and simple. I don't have lag on my Android phones S4, One and N4(Gnex as well) and they are months or one year old so I am happy with them.

    The S4 BTW had a software update 3 days ago which got rid of the lag. I quit all of you are blind idiots ban me from here if you want.
    Same could be said to you. You refuse to acknowledge that though your phones may not be laggy, others may have been. Just because my ford Sporttrac is still running like a champ without any problems doesn't mean all Ford Sporttracs ran like a champ without any problems. Some people have the luck in getting a phone that doesn't cause a problem, while some of us have phones that are problems. its not right to assume were wrong, when we have first hand knowledge that were right.

    what you can say is that you don't have those issues, and have some compassion for those of us that either do have, or did have issues. Dont assault us and continue to tell us were wrong, especially when whats right depends on which side of the line your standing on. I am right because my android phone and others I know first hand do lag and stutter and reboot randomly. Your right because your phone(s) don't have that issue. Understand?
    05-13-2013 05:47 PM
  9. anon5664829's Avatar
    Same could be said to you. You refuse to acknowledge that though your phones may not be laggy, others may have been. Just because my ford Sporttrac is still running like a champ without any problems doesn't mean all Ford Sporttracs ran like a champ without any problems. Some people have the luck in getting a phone that doesn't cause a problem, while some of us have phones that are problems. its not right to assume were wrong, when we have first hand knowledge that were right.

    what you can say is that you don't have those issues, and have some compassion for those of us that either do have, or did have issues. Dont assault us and continue to tell us were wrong, especially when whats right depends on which side of the line your standing on. I am right because my android phone and others I know first hand do lag and stutter and reboot randomly. Your right because your phone(s) don't have that issue. Understand?
    Accepted.
    05-13-2013 07:20 PM
  10. link68759's Avatar
    Same could be said to you. You refuse to acknowledge that though your phones may not be laggy, others may have been. Just because my ford Sporttrac is still running like a champ without any problems doesn't mean all Ford Sporttracs ran like a champ without any problems. Some people have the luck in getting a phone that doesn't cause a problem, while some of us have phones that are problems. its not right to assume were wrong, when we have first hand knowledge that were right.

    what you can say is that you don't have those issues, and have some compassion for those of us that either do have, or did have issues. Dont assault us and continue to tell us were wrong, especially when whats right depends on which side of the line your standing on. I am right because my android phone and others I know first hand do lag and stutter and reboot randomly. Your right because your phone(s) don't have that issue. Understand?
    Of course you do realize that your personal experiences with the stuttering and instability don't correlate to how android actually is: you can't say android is bad when in fact it's only the devices that are bad that happen to run android (or as I said earlier, are crippled by OEM software).
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    05-13-2013 08:29 PM
  11. Florin Anghel's Avatar
    Well, all Android smartphones lags, that is the fact, there's no exception whatsoever. Why? Android runs on JVM, java lags therefor Android lags! And I say this with pitty cause Android has a ton of functionalities, but it works with spikes, frames! And those are visible to the eye, they aren't hiding deep down in some obscure function of the phone, the lag is right there, straight in your face.
    I don't want to annoy anyone, but that's the truth.
    On the other hand, WP is water flowing, smooth, no frames or spikes. It has his minuses, but I hope GDR2 will fix that. No wonder that guy loved 8X and ditched the S3.
    05-14-2013 07:38 AM
  12. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    I'm out. there is no point talking to you guys plain and simple. I don't have lag on my Android phones S4, One and N4(Gnex as well) and they are months or one year old so I am happy with them.

    The S4 BTW had a software update 3 days ago which got rid of the lag. I quit all of you are blind idiots ban me from here if you want.
    Every year same excuse lol

    "From this device , Android doesn't have lag anymore" argument.

    Have been hearing this from "Galaxy S2 times"
    05-14-2013 07:52 AM
  13. absonj's Avatar
    Of course you do realize that your personal experiences with the stuttering and instability don't correlate to how android actually is: you can't say android is bad when in fact it's only the devices that are bad that happen to run android (or as I said earlier, are crippled by OEM software).
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    If reports of lagging only occured in a particular manufacturer, or on a specific carrier, then I would believe that it is device / carrier specific and not due to the OS. However, when I see and hear it occuring with just about all carriers and all manufacturers, then it goes without saying, its the OS, not the phone itself.

    yes, there is a ton of bloatware provided by each carrier. But even after rooted and custom deodex, debloated roms installed, you still get lag, then its the OS.
    05-14-2013 11:04 AM
  14. link68759's Avatar
    Not really. Vanilla android does in fact not lag. Don't get me wrong, I hate android (for other reasons) but I thoroughly tried and tested it, and I can tell you that it runs as well as any WP phone and I hate when people spread misinformation.
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    05-14-2013 11:19 AM
  15. absonj's Avatar
    But is anyone running vanilla? I haven't heard of anyone using that. And wouldn't custom roms with all the bloatware removed, nothing added, be unlaggy?
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    05-14-2013 11:49 AM
  16. Euell Gibbons's Avatar
    Bunk! My Nexus runs vanilla android, and it LAGS. Not as frequently as, say, my Droid X2 running Motoblur, but it is not even in the same universe as the WP devices.

    ALL Android devices lag. That is the trade-off you get for "true multi-tasking".

    Not really. Vanilla android does in fact not lag. Don't get me wrong, I hate android (for other reasons) but I thoroughly tried and tested it, and I can tell you that it runs as well as any WP phone and I hate when people spread misinformation.
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    05-14-2013 04:57 PM
  17. sravanv's Avatar
    Bunk! My Nexus runs vanilla android, and it LAGS. Not as frequently as, say, my Droid X2 running Motoblur, but it is not even in the same universe as the WP devices.

    ALL Android devices lag. That is the trade-off you get for "true multi-tasking".
    Which Nexus do you have? I have the Nexus 4 and so far it has been perfect in terms of what it set out to achieve. Galaxy Nexus and ICS seemed to lag alot. They fixed all of that with "Project Butter" in Jelly Bean.

    Granted, WP8 is still generally better but it still lags. I haven't had any issues with my N4 though. Still, I'm counting down the days until I get my 920 :) (I used to have an 810).
    05-14-2013 05:57 PM
  18. link68759's Avatar
    I've been told that the nexus devices run vanilla android out of the box. Custom roms are almost always vanilla with xyz modification, so yes they tend to be unlaggy unless the "chef" has no idea what he's doing, or unless they're experimenting with new features / kernels / etc.

    I've run android on my HD2 for quite a while and my friend had the Samsung captivate. We we both played with vanilla and varying roms and I can tell you that android itself is not inherently buggy or laggy.
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    05-14-2013 08:46 PM
  19. return_0's Avatar
    Well, all Android smartphones lags, that is the fact, there's no exception whatsoever. Why? Android runs on JVM, java lags therefor Android lags! And I say this with pitty cause Android has a ton of functionalities, but it works with spikes, frames! And those are visible to the eye, they aren't hiding deep down in some obscure function of the phone, the lag is right there, straight in your face.
    I don't want to annoy anyone, but that's the truth.
    On the other hand, WP is water flowing, smooth, no frames or spikes. It has his minuses, but I hope GDR2 will fix that. No wonder that guy loved 8X and ditched the S3.
    Have you ever used an Android phone in the past year? I have NO LAG WHATSOEVER on my N4. In fact, I daresay, my N4 performed tasks faster when I compared it to the Lumia 920 at the Microsoft store.
    05-15-2013 09:26 PM
  20. return_0's Avatar
    Why does it have to be only those 3 devices?
    Because those are the three Android devices he owns. You can't expect him to comment on a phone he doesn't own.
    05-15-2013 09:27 PM
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