08-24-2013 02:24 AM
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  1. Ultimateone's Avatar
    no they have not title of thread is misleading.
    Google just made the new app for Android and another new one for Ios a day ago
    08-21-2013 02:31 PM
  2. RustyU's Avatar
    Does anyone know if its written in html5?
    Doesn't have to be. It's Google's own app, they have full control over every part of it.
    08-21-2013 02:42 PM
  3. Ed Boland's Avatar
    I'm a "content creator" myself. I've had my YouTube channel up for several years now, with 53 videos (I play guitar and post cover songs and original material), and just over 17.8k worldwide views for all 53 vids combined. Through all the changes that YouTube services have been through, with the site/channel design itself, to the barrage of copyright bs that they send me regarding my videos, (I often get a "matched 3rd party content" message even though it's just ME playing the guitar!) My videos are still up.. And, I've still managed to avoid placing any of their ads in my videos. (well, there's none that I know of).

    Coming from 4 generations of iPhones, I've got to say things were a lot easier with the iPhone as far as YouTube is concerned. I could upload my vids right from my phone.. And I thought we had that back earlier this week with the "official" app, but we all know what happened to that...

    Don't get me wrong, I love WP8 and I've fallen back in love with Nokia and their amazing devices. The only thing I'd give my Lumia 920 up for, is a Lumia 1020! I don't see myself ever going back. The only thing I have a Google account for anymore is my YouTube channel. Everything else is all MS (Bing, Skydrive, Live/Outlook, Office, IE10) oh and I use the best mapping/nav software ever... Nokia HERE Maps and HERE Drive+

    Anyway, sorry to ramble on, I just wish Microsoft and Google would see eye to eye on this YouTube thing and provide us with a decent and fully featured app. As someone said earlier in this thread, "we're the ones (the users AND the content creators) who are getting pissed on"

    Its really kinda sad.... :(
    08-21-2013 05:35 PM
  4. TheJoester09's Avatar
    I'm a "content creator" myself. I've had my YouTube channel up for several years now, with 53 videos (I play guitar and post cover songs and original material), and just over 17.8k worldwide views for all 53 vids combined. Through all the changes that YouTube services have been through, with the site/channel design itself, to the barrage of copyright bs that they send me regarding my videos, (I often get a "matched 3rd party content" message even though it's just ME playing the guitar!) My videos are still up.. And, I've still managed to avoid placing any of their ads in my videos. (well, there's none that I know of).

    Coming from 4 generations of iPhones, I've got to say things were a lot easier with the iPhone as far as YouTube is concerned. I could upload my vids right from my phone.. And I thought we had that back earlier this week with the "official" app, but we all know what happened to that...

    Don't get me wrong, I love WP8 and I've fallen back in love with Nokia and their amazing devices. The only thing I'd give my Lumia 920 up for, is a Lumia 1020! I don't see myself ever going back. The only thing I have a Google account for anymore is my YouTube channel. Everything else is all MS (Bing, Skydrive, Live/Outlook, Office, IE10) oh and I use the best mapping/nav software ever... Nokia HERE Maps and HERE Drive+

    Anyway, sorry to ramble on, I just wish Microsoft and Google would see eye to eye on this YouTube thing and provide us with a decent and fully featured app. As someone said earlier in this thread, "we're the ones (the users AND the content creators) who are getting pissed on"

    Its really kinda sad.... :(
    Nokia recently released a YouTube uploader app. It's definitely a bummer about the official app, but this could possibly help you out.
    Nokia Video Upload | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States)
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    08-21-2013 05:52 PM
  5. Cleavitt76's Avatar
    Direct quote from that MS lawyer's article:

    "doesn't always serve ads based on conditions imposed by content creators"
    Dishonest much? Here is the quote in context...

    "Google claims that one problem with our new app is that it doesn’t always serve ads based on conditions imposed by content creators. Our app serves Google’s advertisements using all the metadata available to us. We’ve asked Google to provide whatever information iPhone and Android get so that we can mirror the way ads are served on these platforms more precisely. So far at least, Google has refused to give this information to us. We are quite confident that we can solve this issue if Google cooperates, but fixing Google’s concern here is entirely within Google’s control. If Google stops blocking our app, we are happy to work with them on this, entirely at Microsoft’s expense."

    You sure did go way out of your way to remove all context from what you claimed was a direct quote. The piece of the sentence that you quoted wasn't even something the MS rep said himself. It was something that Google claimed that he was repeating.

    Full statement...

    The limits of Google
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    08-21-2013 06:52 PM
  6. RadioActiveLunch's Avatar
    anyone have the file of the youtube app? they keep taking them down from the store because of google/microsoft conflicts. I'll try to sideload install it if someone has the file.
    08-21-2013 06:56 PM
  7. TheJoester09's Avatar
    anyone have the file of the youtube app? they keep taking them down from the store because of google/microsoft conflicts. I'll try to sideload install it if someone has the file.
    That won't do any good. I still have the app installed and it's useless because Google blocked all of the content. :(
    08-21-2013 07:07 PM
  8. FinancialP's Avatar
    I think some people are living in a closed box.

    Google also doesn't make a YouTube app for:
    Blackberry
    Symbian
    Jolla
    Firefox
    Tizen
    Feature phones
    Bada
    WebOS

    Maybe these users too should band together and demand support?
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    08-21-2013 08:57 PM
  9. ChMar's Avatar
    I think some people are living in a closed box.

    Google also doesn't make a YouTube app for:
    Blackberry
    Symbian
    Jolla
    Firefox
    Tizen
    Feature phones
    Bada
    WebOS

    Maybe these users too should band together and demand support?
    Let's cut the crap. No one is forced to do anything. Why force google to make youtube app for platform x???? Last time I checked no company / person is forced to own a website or to create apps. Support is for paying customers. No one is a customer of google youtube. You don't pay to demand support. Even if youtube access will cost 5$ a month you would pay for access to YouTube from a standard complaint browser. Then you would be a customer but still you pay for http (browser access) and no one is again forced to do apps for you on platform X.

    Beeing anticompetitive is one thing. Being painted as evil just because you don't provide support for customers is absurd. No one is a customer here
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    08-21-2013 09:18 PM
  10. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    I think some people are living in a closed box.

    Google also doesn't make a YouTube app for:
    Blackberry
    Symbian
    Jolla
    Firefox
    Tizen
    Feature phones
    Bada
    WebOS

    Maybe these users too should band together and demand support?
    Nah, they should just ask Google to stop blocking their YouTube apps for no good reason...
    08-22-2013 09:20 AM
  11. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Let's cut the crap. No one is forced to do anything. Why force google to make youtube app for platform x???? Last time I checked no company / person is forced to own a website or to create apps. Support is for paying customers. No one is a customer of google youtube. You don't pay to demand support. Even if youtube access will cost 5$ a month you would pay for access to YouTube from a standard complaint browser. Then you would be a customer but still you pay for http (browser access) and no one is again forced to do apps for you on platform X.

    Beeing anticompetitive is one thing. Being painted as evil just because you don't provide support for customers is absurd. No one is a customer here
    We're the customers because we pay for YouTube via use of advertising. If we're not the the customers through that method, then any app that pays for itself through ads (likely free otherwise) has no customers ever. And that's just weird logic.
    08-22-2013 09:22 AM
  12. hopmedic's Avatar
    We're the customers because we pay for YouTube via use of advertising. If we're not the the customers through that method, then any app that pays for itself through ads (likely free otherwise) has no customers ever. And that's just weird logic.
    Close. The customers are the ones who pay for the service. That would be the advertisers. We, the consumer, is a viewer. We are the customer of the advertising agency, indirectly, by buying their customers' (the individual advertiser) products. We, as individuals, may not always buy the individual advertiser's product, but "we" as a group, do buy the advertisers' products, or they would put their money elsewhere.

    Google does a disservice to its customers, the advertisers, by not making the content, and therefore the ads, available to people who want to see it. Yes, it is correct that not all platforms have a YouTube app, but since Microsoft has put forth the investment to create the app, it costs Google nothing to allow it. They do a disservice to the people who want to view the content (not directly their real customers), and they do a disservice to their true customers, the advertisers, by blocking an app that is already created, which would increase the income of those advertisers.

    You find who the real customer is by following the money.
    08-22-2013 10:06 AM
  13. Rodrigo Mendes's Avatar
    Microsoft should sue Google for unfair competition, since Google imposes specific restrictions to Microsoft system, unlike IOS or Android. There's a HUGE difference in Windows restrictions for third apps or programs. But I do not think it's worth solve this problem that way.

    But you know what??? Screw Google and Microsoft. I have Youtube HD, Metrotube and Supertube. The three best applications for Youtube in the world, even compared to official in IOS or Android. Why I would need an youtube app with ads? No, thanks, i'm fine here.
    08-22-2013 10:33 AM
  14. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Microsoft should sue Google for unfair competition, since Google imposes specific restrictions to Microsoft system, unlike IOS or Android. There's a HUGE difference in Windows restrictions for third apps or programs. But I do not think it's worth solve this problem that way.

    But you know what??? Screw Google and Microsoft. I have Youtube HD, Metrotube and Supertube. The three best applications for Youtube in the world, even compared to official in IOS or Android. Why I would need an youtube app with ads? No, thanks, i'm fine here.
    I don't get this mentality.

    Anyone who is proud of "I don't watch ads" should stop watching YouTube material period.
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    08-22-2013 10:48 AM
  15. hopmedic's Avatar
    I don't get this mentality.

    Anyone who is proud of "I don't watch ads" should stop watching YouTube material period.
    I'm with you on the mentality... I use the MetroTube app because for now it is the best experience. Ads? Meh - they're a minor inconvenience when they're there, and since I use ads to support my apps, I understand people using ads to support their YouTube channels, and don't want to steal from them. But until there's a decent YouTube app on WP, there really isn't an option.
    08-22-2013 10:53 AM
  16. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    I'm with you on the mentality... I use the MetroTube app because for now it is the best experience. Ads? Meh - they're a minor inconvenience when they're there, and since I use ads to support my apps, I understand people using ads to support their YouTube channels, and don't want to steal from them. But until there's a decent YouTube app on WP, there really isn't an option.
    That much I can understand, it makes sense.

    I kind of wish they could enable ads in MetroTube, to be honest, it's the main reason I don't use it.
    08-22-2013 11:13 AM
  17. hopmedic's Avatar
    Yeah - if they did, I wouldn't complain. IIRC, though, the reason the original MS YouTube app didn't display ads is because Google wouldn't provide the API.
    08-22-2013 11:17 AM
  18. Cleavitt76's Avatar
    Yeah - if they did, I wouldn't complain. IIRC, though, the reason the original MS YouTube app didn't display ads is because Google wouldn't provide the API.
    That is correct. Google's API for third party YouTube apps does not provide the required ad info in many cases. This is why Metrotube and other third party apps (including MS's app) don't always show ads when the website and first party apps do. So Google/YouTube is actually causing the missing ads in the third party apps. For some reason they only see the MS app as "breaking their terms of service."
    08-22-2013 04:14 PM
  19. Rodrigo Mendes's Avatar
    I don't get this mentality.

    Anyone who is proud of "I don't watch ads" should stop watching YouTube material period.
    Pride is not the right word. But i think internet don't need intrusive advertisements, like we have on Youtube. They want to turn internet in a television system. I don't agree with that. That's absolutely wrong, goes against the principles of the internet. But this is a topic (a good one) for another conversation, not now.

    For now, i'm proud to have third Youtube apps. If these apps don't have any ads? What can I do? Best for us and definitely not my fault. Blame Google, not me.
    08-23-2013 02:01 PM
  20. explorador75's Avatar
    Since yesterday any of my youtube application works, does anybody now something about it, cause I haven't heard anything about it from any web
    08-23-2013 05:14 PM
  21. explorador75's Avatar
    Then they shouldn't. Support any of the systems but themselfs
    08-23-2013 06:28 PM
  22. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Pride is not the right word. But i think internet don't need intrusive advertisements, like we have on Youtube. They want to turn internet in a television system. I don't agree with that. That's absolutely wrong, goes against the principles of the internet. But this is a topic (a good one) for another conversation, not now.

    For now, i'm proud to have third Youtube apps. If these apps don't have any ads? What can I do? Best for us and definitely not my fault. Blame Google, not me.
    That is a good topic, and this is as good of a thread as any.

    Not casting stones at anyone who uses a Windows Phone or RT YouTube app that doesn't show ads. My problem is that... well, I seem to remember reading a lot of places (not here, gladly) that people wouldn't be updating their app if it meant watching YouTube ads.

    The idea of hating YouTube ads? I am with you. The idea of going out of your way to make sure that you don't see them? Not as cool.
    08-23-2013 08:02 PM
  23. Robert Novak1's Avatar
    I don't mind ads in youtube on my desktop. However, on a moble platform where data is quite limited, ads are not really welcome...
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    08-24-2013 02:24 AM
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