[techiez]

So I had to do a hard reset and reconfigured my phone, I configured my MS account and it gives me an option of restoring backup, since I was on a mobile network so I choose to restore later.
Then once MS account is configured I no longer see an option to do a restore.

[WPmunkey]

You'll probably have to reset your phone again to get the option for backup restore during initial setup.

Same as iPhone.

[techiez]

You'll probably have to reset your phone again to get the option for backup restore during initial setup.

Same as iPhone.

Since anyways I can find my app history in windowsphone.com I reinstalled from there, but my point is, its just crap the way its designed.
It was way better on WP7.5 with zune desktop software.

[Huime]

why not plug in the app and do a manual restore?

[techiez]

why not plug in the app and do a manual restore?

point is not what I can do as workaround but the process is crappy, it needs a lot of improvement

[Huime]

point is not what I can do as workaround but the process is crappy, it needs a lot of improvement

Its not a work around, it has been the "official way" if you even care to read the manual, the one came with your phone or online directory.

[T Moore]

It works very well. You have to enter your MS account information when the phone restarts after a reset. Don't skip this and try to do it latter. You have to have a good phone data connection for restore, not WiFi.
Part of GDR3 is going to change the phone restore process because some users have to enter APN information to establish a phone data connection. You don't have a chance to do that now.

[OzRob]

You have to have a good phone data connection for restore, not WiFi.

And how retarded is that??

Part of GDR3 is going to change the phone restore process because some users have to enter APN information to establish a phone data connection. You don't have a chance to do that now.

And how retarded is that??

Perhaps you should just accept the OPs point that this restore process is a bit of a joke - because it actually is. I've just gone through the same rigmarole myself, and if you don't want to incur data charges when you've got a perfectly good wifi connection handy you're out of luck. Sure there are workarounds and hoops you can jump through to get stuff set back up again, but it ain't pretty. And it's not really acceptable from a so called 'smart' phone operating system.

[redeyss]

Yep, got my warranty 1020 back and had to cut Sim to nano to use backup phone, which I'm on now, while it was away. Now I can't restore 1020 without a Sim card in it, total pain!!

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[illidanx]

Yep, got my warranty 1020 back and had to cut Sim to nano to use backup phone, which I'm on now, while it was away. Now I can't restore 1020 without a Sim card in it, total pain!!

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I feel for you. You may want to buy a sim tray.

[techiez]

Its not a work around, it has been the "official way" if you even care to read the manual, the one came with your phone or online directory.

It is the official way, doesnt mean that it is the smart way, its pretty dumb, and if the designers could'nt get around this atleast they should just force the user to restore at the start why give a "LATER" option and then not show restore option anywhere.

these things need to be refined if MS wants to be considered as a serious player in 'smart'phone OS field.
and to add WP7.5 had backup & restore from zune desktop app, you could select the version which you wanted to restore at any point of time.

[John20212]

I miss the simple restore process that was on my old Windows Mobile 2003SE iPaq. You could easily create a full system image and restore from it to the exact same state as before.
With WP certain key features like restore have just been decimated.

[blegs38552]

I miss the simple restore process that was on my old Windows Mobile 2003SE iPaq. You could easily create a full system image and restore from it to the exact same state as before.
With WP certain key features like restore have just been decimated.

I had a Windows Mobile phone and my recollection is that I needed to use a third party app to create and restore backups. The one I used did work well, but of course, the system architecture ofr WP8 is totally different.

Having said this, it would be nice if Microsoft could provide this functionality. Of course, it isn't even present in Windows 8.1 except as an option to use Windows 7 backup tools.

[gsquared]

point is not what I can do as workaround but the process is crappy, it needs a lot of improvement

I do not see the issue. You were provided a prompt to restore and YOU CHOSE to ignore it. Someone even provided a suggestion and you ignored that as well. Issue here isn't the phone or the backup process.

[techiez]

I do not see the issue. You were provided a prompt to restore and YOU CHOSE to ignore it. Someone even provided a suggestion and you ignored that as well. Issue here isn't the phone or the backup process.

yes a prompt was provided with now or later, I chose later, but there's no way I could do it later, it is "AN ISSUE",
if there is a backup associated with my live account why cant the phone show it under backups in settings and allow me to restore whenever I want.

ofcourse there are other missing things such as what you can backup or what you cannot, I'm not even mentioning them here, but this forcing the user to either restore at the very start or not at all is an ISSUE.

are you expected to have highspeed net in your pocket always everywhere? I was at Nokia care, got my phone repaired, they asked me to configure my live id, I did it asked me if i wanted to restore now, I chose later, then I come back home and see no option, it is stupid and not expected from a smartphone OS.

And stop being a blind fanboy man.

[redeyss]

Finally took the nano sim out of my Droid and taped it into the cutout of my mini sim after some razor blade modification. You can't use a sim adaptor in Nokia phones as they get stuck and can void warranty or bend/break sim pins inside phone. Now I will have to reset phone and brave spinning gears in order to restore from backup, this after spending some time setting phone up manually.

I love playing with my phone but this is pretty weak and could/will be avoided when you can connect to WiFi after GDR3. Don't know what time frame that will be on at&t 1020 or 920;)

[jhoff80]

For what it's worth, even after you get it restored, it's still a huge joke. App data doesn't get backed up, so while yes it's great that a lot of the system stuff is saved, any game saves, app content, and app settings are gone.

[ttsoldier]

It is an issue. It sucks.

[techiez]

Finally took the nano sim out of my Droid and taped it into the cutout of my mini sim after some razor blade modification. You can't use a sim adaptor in Nokia phones as they get stuck and can void warranty or bend/break sim pins inside phone. Now I will have to reset phone and brave spinning gears in order to restore from backup, this after spending some time setting phone up manually.

I love playing with my phone but this is pretty weak and could/will be avoided when you can connect to WiFi after GDR3. Don't know what time frame that will be on at&t 1020 or 920;)

did u try getting developer preview version of gdr3?, I think u can get that on carrier locked phones as well.

[AngryNil]

For what it's worth, even after you get it restored, it's still a huge joke. App data doesn't get backed up, so while yes it's great that a lot of the system stuff is saved, any game saves, app content, and app settings are gone.

This. To make it worse, Windows 8 seems to have achieved this already. At this stage, WP8.1 pretty much needs to be monumental if it wants to be taken seriously.

[Dave Blake]

You all get it that the initial setup is just for phone settings like 1mb max. It sets up your email, WIFI networks with passwords, puts in your text message history. After you enter all your passwords then your on the main screen free to turn on your pre configured password entered WIFI network. All you have to do is go to WIFI and pick the network. From that second on all your apps download over WIFI.

[PB_H]

I'm just surprised that so many don't familiarize themselves with how a
Windows phone "works" before they reset to factory settings or download updates.

[OzRob]

I'm just surprised that so many don't familiarize themselves with how a
Windows phone "works" before they reset to factory settings or download updates.

It's not an issue of familiarization. It's an issue of some people in the world having to pay a lot for mobile data. While it may not use much data the way it works now, it does use data. For some people data=money. Why should we spend ANY money just to reset our phones if we have a useable wifi connection available which doesn't cost ANY extra money to use. The only thing stopping this from happening is the fact that Windows Phone 8 doesn't allow you to do it. Conclusion - Windows Phone needs to be fixed. Please stop making excuses for poorly thought out programming choices.

[PB_H]

It's not an issue of familiarization. It's an issue of some people in the world having to pay a lot for mobile data. While it may not use much data the way it works now, it does use data. For some people data=money. Why should we spend ANY money just to reset our phones if we have a useable wifi connection available which doesn't cost ANY extra money to use. The only thing stopping this from happening is the fact that Windows Phone 8 doesn't allow you to do it. Conclusion - Windows Phone needs to be fixed. Please stop making excuses for poorly thought out programming choices.

It's only 1-2MB if that.

[worldspy99]

I lost all of my app data on Android as well when I did a factory reset in order to root the phone. So in that regard WP is no different than Android :-)